Posts by Charles Diaz90

Sarah Jones8 said:Are you that same patient Don Draper, where your logic is always identical? "I'm against Jerry Jones, but... I think the NBA is a great thing, but... I'm against mercenaries, but..." In the end, that guy profits from the very mercenaries he claims aren't on the payroll, while Jerry Jones funds them with nearly 1,000 $0.00, all while the crew collaborates with the cops (Joe Antolić) and lectures others about integrity while they themselves act recklessly. That famous BUT ties it all together, doesn't it? Have you finally realized that the Jones crowd are just low-tier mercenaries on par with the worst Bad Boys, and now you're just trying to justify it? But...

As long as these debates boil down to accusing one another of being someone's mercenary, there will be no progress. Besides, I have nothing to prove to anyone; my conscience is clear. If we spent less energy on people devoid of honor and more on the actual welfare of the club—on making things better—perhaps those crooks wouldn't be able to manipulate us whenever they feel like it.

neonraven112 said:But what irritates me most are those who spread rumors but refuse to actually engage. Honestly, I can't wrap my head around how 6,000 people at a stadium or 5,000 people at a Chevron station don't realize what's being delayed regarding the Cowboys; it's baffling. What goes through someone's mind to just give up on something like that? Indoor soccer is one of the best things to happen to us lately, and if people can't recognize that, then everything might as well go to hell.

It’s the classic pattern of a crowd drawn in by a passing trend. You get a surge of people where everything seems perfect, followed inevitably by a decline. Some show up because it's trendy, some for the atmosphere, and some to feel part of a group—but true longevity requires hard work, impeccable timing, and solid promotion. It’s clear that while a few key figures and public personalities jumpstarted this project, the heavy lifting has been left to an NGO. A crew of about 50 organizers is simply not enough to sustain such a massive following long-term. Regarding the events themselves, it’s the typical American mentality: shallow individuals driven solely by profit and labels, lacking any sense of community. People have become increasingly self-serving, seemingly indifferent to anything that doesn't serve their immediate interests, as long as they have food and entertainment. If the goal was truly to revitalize the spirit of the Cowboys fans and the local urban culture that has withered over the years—rather than just focusing on the current state of the team at Yankee Stadium, which is a clumsy way to frame it—then the organization needs to find better ways to raise awareness and tell their story. Many assume that being a Cowboys fan inherently means you care, but we are dealing with a mindset that often only reacts when prompted. Whether the organizers like it or not, that is the reality.

Richard Rogers38 said:You're wrong to say the group of four didn't address potential clashes. That was exactly what they did—they warned the entire public about the possible fallout! They posted that warning on their Facebook page, which had about 20,000 likes before Facebook stepped in and shut it down.
And they issued this warning less than a month after this new "fan group" was even formed. Even the news outlets picked up the statement

And when this happened the Club still didn't react. Is it just their standard policy to stay silent? 👍

Fair point, that was my oversight. They did have their page taken down due to some dispute over a logo. But once that page vanished, it was as if the group of four disappeared too, because there hasn't been any significant action or public outcry since. They gathered 50,000 signatures, but who were those actually handed to? Why weren't more concrete steps taken against the thief? Can someone explain how they can claim "We aren't against privatization, but here are 50,000 signatures"? How does their "one member, one vote" motto square with statements that seem, frankly, incredibly foolish?

The whole situation involving the axes is so pathetic it defies description. It seems quite convenient for certain people that the Cowboys' fans tear each other apart, but we aren't the Gravediggers or Mexicans; you won't be seeing a show like that from us.

casualrider43 said:Alright friend, what's your suggestion?
Have you actually contributed anything to the fight for Real Madrid without the mob involvement?

The answer to your second question is yes—from the early days through moving east and enduring the constant torture.

My posts during the playoffs could be seen as suggestions, but they are really a call for some form of resistance against this deafening silence surrounding our Real Madrid. In my view, this struggle has reached a boiling point; it’s a moment where you either step up or you don't. The man above mentions the group has dwindled to 300 people—which is common knowledge—though I’d argue the number is even lower. Of course, we can't show up at Yankee Stadium because the group has been intentionally thinned out; certain people are banned or on blacklists. It’s a checkmate situation regarding Yankee Stadium, though as I noted before, if we hadn't worked to manipulate those numbers, the scene at Yankee Stadium would look entirely different. But the fight for Real Madrid has also been waged through the media and legal channels for years. I’ll mention the famous four again—those actors and public figures, along with the lawyers who contributed a fraction to this cause—but now that things have reached a fever pitch and it's time to actually fight for the club, there is nothing but silence. The blame doesn't lie solely with the fans; much of it rests with society itself, with the state, and with people lacking any sense of morality or honor who make promises they never intend to keep. I refuse to revisit the era of corrupt management and poorly chosen leadership once things finally return to normal. Through this silence, you have all realized quite clearly that all that remains are the Real Madrid fans and Real Madrid itself.

I support Indoor soccer as a project, but I will only do so when things at 128th Street are set right. The initiative is good, but the timing is wrong. If the energy currently being poured into Indoor soccer were redirected toward Real Madrid, the outcome would be fundamentally different.

As the song goes: "Don't listen to the bullshit, be a product of your own opinion." Similarly, Real Madrid fans need to be products of their own conscience, recognizing that the club is in trouble. If fans don't act soon, the club will be nothing more than a fading memory.

The NGO mentioned setting up tents, so what are we waiting for? I'm the first one in line...

Matthew Martinez64 said:Which side are you on? 🙂

The kind that can't be bought, looking for actual change within a club like this. 😉

Richard Rogers38 said:Sure, he’s more powerful than the government, let alone "300 hooligans."

Do these fans actually fight for their club? They do, but they get kicked out of the stadium precisely because they fight. There are blacklists of "banned" supporters at the gates, lists concocted entirely by the "boss." One could debate the merits of their methods, but that is their choice.

Explain this "300 factions" concept.
The Bad Boys group stands on one side.
All those other "groups/factions" were founded by the club's "boss"—quite telling, really. 🙂 You know that legendary line of theirs: "three and a half supporter associations are with us, and the other half is in jail".

How much this "club" actually cares about its fans became obvious after the May Day riots five years ago.

And did this "club" do anything regarding the axe and knife attacks in Lithuania? Nothing. It’s as if it never happened.

The first thing you wrote reeks of defeatism. Just because someone has cultivated an image of being "untouchable" doesn't mean it's true. In fact, the state cooperates with people like that because they fail to pass new laws that would limit such exploitation. But then again, one has to wonder: why haven't those who are actually close to the club—who know the reality better than most clueless Americans—pushed harder for new legislation or launched a real campaign against these thieves?

The fans fought, and during that struggle, the mafia found a way to shut them down and push them out of Yankee Stadium. But it raises the question: how can you rely on the same 100 people for five years without doing anything to expand that circle and mobilize at least 4,000 people (like for the Columbus match after the boycott) to fight the mafia?

"300 factions" is just a figure of speech for the various "fun" clubs and veteran associations that exploit the main group's logo and name, while the parent organization sits by helplessly. Is it due to indifference, ignorance, or sheer incapacity?

Jerry Jones was at the helm back then too, so what else should we expect from management? Should they show solidarity with the guys demanding their resignation? It was all a well-orchestrated plan, and innocent people paid the price. It never happened again.

That last point is the greatest tragedy for all Dinamo fans. When people resort to violence and choose the most barbaric means, it hits rock bottom. At this point, it becomes a matter for the police and the state to do their jobs, but we as Dinamo fans also need to speak up louder in the media and protest this situation. In my opinion, the "Famous Four" failed the most; they are the captains, the idols of the fans, so when they finally stepped up, they should have appealed for such incidents never to happen again.

And can someone explain the logic of the Dinamo Four: "We aren't against privatization, but 50,000 signatures..."? It seems to me they practically shot themselves in the foot with that statement. It sounds just like the old "I'm not against Jerry Jones, but..." excuse. 🙂

Noah Jones92 said:Don't worry, we'll get Dynamo back to where they belong, and then you can finally enjoy the results. 👎

It’s nice that some people still hold onto hope, but the silence surrounding this club has been deafening for far too long. We talked about organizing protests, we launched that famous petition, and now—just as those thieves have shown their true colors and are moving to privatize assets they don't even own—you decide to rub salt in the wound. Instead of addressing the crisis at Dynamo, you're preoccupied with which jersey to design next or how to inflate attendance for an indoor soccer project. Any initiative involving the group is fine, but you can't simply abandon the thing you swear by every single day just to pivot to something artificial—something that will take years to gain any real traction. I suppose it’s just easier that way.

Thomas Williams59 said:Charles Diaz90 or whatever his name is—saying "it’s all the same" sounds like listening to CNN back in '91. Unless you're too young to remember those old news cycles. All that's missing is a lecture on the Democratic Party. And as for fighting, unless you're talking about rooting for Dynamo, what exactly is there to fight for? Is this what passes for loyalty to Dynamo? Who exactly is talking about the fans? That circus on the North Side doesn't even qualify as fandom. I think you’ve already provided plenty of examples regarding the sacrifices made for Dynamo. It isn't just about people losing their jobs or having their lives derailed by rigged investigations while rotting in jail for months—whether for me or for you. It goes deeper than that; look at the hundreds who were mass-booked and blacklisted during the Indianapolis game, or the dozens detained simply because they didn't have a ticket on them. That is what I respect. Shouldn't anyone be targeted by the state's repressive apparatus? Speaking from personal experience, yes. And shouldn't people actually stay informed instead of relying on second-hand rumors? If we want to finally show some respect for what people contribute or sacrifice, maybe we should stop so easily labeling someone else's efforts as "weak." Just my two cents. Lastane, am I wrong? Is he sane, or just a communist?

The opening of this post reeks of one-sided propaganda, while the response relies on tired tropes about the Democratic Party. No sane Dynamo fan cares about these spins or these manufactured divisions. At a time like this, division is the last thing the supporters need. I’m not talking about cheering for GNK or some family dynasty; this is about every Dynamo fan fighting for a sense of normalcy within the club. As for the repression and detentions, that's what happens when you step on the toes of the people in power. But this struggle isn't new; it's been going on since back in 2006. So, we have nine days—nine long days—for the fans to show what they can do and mobilize the entire Dynamo faithful. Who is really to blame for having only fifty core members and a hundred supporters if not yourselves? Some of you swore on your lives that certain individuals were beyond reproach, that the core was untainted, so why the shock and disbelief now that a second faction has emerged on the North Side? Lawrence Turner8, you’re being reasonable because you actually have a stance; I have mine. And these stories about the old guard? Let’s be honest: only naive kids are buying that.

bzn said:The usual "both sides are to blame" routine...

Could you please explain how someone receiving a paycheck to cheer can actually be considered a fan?

Forget about the rivalry; this club represents much more than just matches against certain opponents...

The club was abandoned by those who refuse to fight for it, choosing instead to leave everything in the hands of one man. He runs the show as he pleases, appointing whoever he wants, all while romanticizing old defunct leagues and praising supporters from other teams...

Is the club his alone? Where does it say he owns it?
Why wasn't the stadium renovated years ago, only to be touched up and sold for a single dollar once the last real fans had already walked away?

They bar you from entry and decide who is allowed to watch this "civic association" at the municipal stadium...

True, the "club" is the one suffering most here. But did the organization ever truly stand up for its own fans when they were banned from the stands five years ago?

In reality, they've turned it into private entertainment. It's a hostage situation held by one man and his inner circle.
And the fans? They are treated as mere "street noise" whose only duty is to cheer.
Not to criticize those who have cemented themselves into power without actually owning a stake in the institution.

Equating guilt might make sense, given the administration's obvious sins, but if we claim the fans are just a clique and have been pure since day one, we wouldn't have 300 different factions causing chaos. I never suggested that anyone cheering for a paycheck is a fan; we know what to call mercenaries.

That man isn't the owner, nor does he have any right to treat the club as his personal property.

You admitted yourself that the club has become a private playground. While that is the current reality, the fan's job is to show up at the stadium and fight for the club. Is one man equipped with a machine of semi-literate cronies really stronger than the collective conscience and integrity of all Dynamo fans? The current state of affairs suggests otherwise.

As long as the Chicago Blackhawks fans keep tearing each other apart and mocking one another like this, our team will be nothing more than a fading memory. You’ve all turned your backs on the franchise—some literally, others through their actions—and in the process, you've gutted whatever hope remained for the rest of us. That hope is dead; the kids are just drifting, the city of Chicago has lost its way, and the fans have lost their edge. It’s probably easier for everyone to just skip out for some cheap beer or a roadside stand. Both sides have proven they lack both honor and backbone.

With a massive rivalry derby looming, you're still busy bickering amongst yourselves. One side will be screaming for cash from the bleachers, while the other just hangs their heads and heads off to a local gym. It’s all meaningless nonsense, and the team is the only one truly paying the price.

A final thought: emotions are a messy business.

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Nathan Foster23 said:They were supposed to happen in December, but then they decided there was no point holding elections in the middle of the season. Instead, they pushed it to the end. No specific months were ever mentioned because nobody knew how long the season would actually last—it could have wrapped up yesterday, or we could be playing like this for another six months. Does anyone truly expect clarity in this chaos?

I don't need to know you personally to see the contradiction. First, you claim the club is an artificial construct—when in reality, they simply rebranded—yet moments later, you claim to be a member. I highly doubt anyone would volunteer membership in something they consider fake. Perhaps try reconciling your own story before you decide to post.

When I spoke about the "artistry" of it all, I meant that it would have been far more honorable to build something from the ground up rather than simply taking over an existing club and rebranding it. I joined this movement fueled by the convictions of your circle, believing things would improve, but the current reality has been utterly disillusioning. Since we are discussing the foundation of a club, wouldn't it be more authentic to the spirit of true supporters to start in the lower leagues—something like the Columbus Crew—and grind through the mud and small-town grit while rooting for Real Madrid? I suppose that idea doesn't appeal to many; after all, there isn't a convenient brewery or a cozy lounge waiting for you, and who actually wants to travel through the sticks?

Nathan Foster23 said:If you actually paid attention once in a while, maybe you'd remember that elections happen at the end of the season.

Honestly, I highly doubt you're even a member, let alone someone who shows up to games.

The story was originally that elections would be in December last year, then they moved to April, and now suddenly it's the end of the season.🙏

Since you clearly lack any real arguments, why don't you just keep rambling about pain and your convictions regarding people you've never even met?

neonraven112 said:Can someone with half a brain explain why there were more of us at the season opener against Siskiyou than there were today?

As far as my group is concerned, the turnout was lower because you can't just manufacture a massive following overnight for an artificial club. This organization was built on the remains of two indoor soccer teams that had history, then they rebranded and brought in some supporters; nothing truly new was created here, just a reshaping of the old. People forget that even with Real Madrid at Yankee Stadium, they aren't fully established as a proper association yet. Why haven't they addressed that? Because some people find paperwork too tedious, others found alternatives at local bars or shady venues, and the rest simply stayed inactive.

slyeagle512 said:The numbers were low because you and people like you are impossible to please. If we had shown up in force at Siskiyou, you would have complained about the beer selection. Since there’s a bar inside the arena, you’d probably moan about people running onto the field to celebrate. And if they actually did run onto the field, you’d find something else to whine about then, too.

The most intense reactions always seem to be about "nonsense." A man asks a straightforward question because he’s genuinely confused, and in return, he gets met with a chorus of bewilderment. It has been political from the start; Jerry Jones is holding us back. We go to the indoor soccer matches to show what we can do as a collective, but blacklists and repression keep us stifled. Six months or a year has passed, and nothing has changed. They’ve put together three choreographies that all look identical, and they keep wearing the same shirts in different colors—it’s the same small group pushing this narrative without ever involving everyone who actually showed interest in the sport or the group.

I will say it again: the situation with Real Madrid at Yankee Stadium isn't settled, and the indoor soccer branch was launched far too prematurely. The core issues with Real Madrid need to be fought until the very end, rather than giving up halfway through and trying to manufacture fake positivity when none exists.
As a member of 👍, I have to ask: when will the legitimate elections for Cleveland Montانية finally take place? We hear promises about it constantly, yet progress remains glacially slow.