Posts by silentridge84

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Looking at these links, all I can say is: "Innovative"... if you want to lose your mind.
Pop and his little sermon. Whatever... if people like it, more power to them—just don't let this thread turn into a total joke. For me, it's all 🙂
Look. I think we settled some things. You've got people who built this mental image of Bruce Springsteen when they were sixteen, and now they refuse to update their software (acting like he's still that same Bruce from the old days), but hey—you learn stuff while you're alive. You evolve, change your style, move on with your life... It’s not like some kid or an emotionally stunted person who clings to the world they imagined at sixteen, defending it at all costs and ignoring reality... That's just childish...
But fine, let's wrap it up: if people like it, cool. The point is, some facts were laid out here. Same goes for other musicians—you gotta bust the fantasy and show the reality, no matter how much it sucks. Better the truth than some grown man living out a sixteen-year-old's dream. There are plenty of people like that at these kinds of shows... Personally, I don't go to those gigs anymore; they're ridiculous and boring... and they tend to get pretty depressing, like with Bruce Springsteen and stuff...
Anyway... that's about it, I guess...
Bruce 👎

George Hill4 said:Alright, so we've got undeniable proof now—this is definitely just Blackadder1 typing. 🤣

It’s like Blackadder is the only person on this entire planet who thinks Motörhead is cool and actually listens to them—so if anyone else agrees, they must be Blackadder too, right? And who even is that guy anyway? 🤦
By the way, I just remembered—you can actually get a minimum penalty for this kind of stuff. When an argument gets heated and people can't handle the truth (that emotional crowd again) or simply can't win on logic, they resort to being low-life losers. It's just like how people play dirty in American corporate offices—throwing someone under the bus just to clear the deck. They'll just claim someone is a troll or using multiple accounts just to get rid of them. Honestly, the mods should at least throw out a warning when people start using these cheap tactics. Thanks.

Scott Long71 said:Exactly. Cane isn't out here singing about religion, and he sure as hell isn't singing about nationality. 🙄And honestly—putting him in the same damn bucket as Boris Gjorgiev and Thomson is just straight-up stupid. You’ve got way too many things mixed up here—Rimtutituki - Peace, man, just peace., Cane, Gile, Milan, and Cavke — just pure sex, drugs, violence, and fear.).

Go write about something you actually get—you don't know the first thing about Apple.

Let's get back to the topic. Time to warm up for today. Cheapskates - Sister

Keep shining, sister!
Shine—just shine while you still can.
Don't let them erase you.
People who don't even know how to love... they just don't get it.

No need for a massive response here. This is just another mob mentality situation—people who don't have a clue what they're even thinking, let alone what they're actually listening to. They don't know the guy personally, and they sure as hell don't know his music. Or maybe they’re just spinning some fantasy version of the tracks in their heads, thinking it's something else entirely—honestly, it wouldn't be the first time a band dealt with that. Half the time when musicians actually write something meaningful, the audience either misses the point completely or gets the facts totally wrong.
Let's throw some religious songs into the mix—for example:
I just wanna know.
2. Prayer
3. Get in touch.
Am I losing it? Or am I just a stranger in my own damn country... like being stuck in Mexico or something.
Who am I even supposed to be praising here? (I've played at their shows—go check Wikipedia if you don't believe me.)
I’m not expecting anything—heaven is full, and they're all watching us...
My heart's right here—and honestly, if I actually had what I needed, I’d have found my way to heaven a long time ago. Instead, I'm just out here wandering around... whatever.
Pick one—somewhere in that middle ground between the light and the dark.
What time is it? Honestly, who’s actually the villain here and who’s the victim? Everyone’s in the same boat—we're all just circling the drain together. We’ll probably end up blaming the whole burglary thing by the end of this anyway... just more typical 90s-style relativism.

Should we even bother? We could keep digging through old interviews and whatnot if we really wanted to... but honestly, look at it this way: I’ve spent thirty years studying their material and their whole vibe—I know this stuff like a transplant surgeon knows his craft. Then you get some random person who hasn't done a lick of research waltzing up to that "surgeon" and trying to tell them how to do their job? No way. What we're seeing here is just an emotional outburst from those crowds he was talking about in his earlier posts. Look, if those masses decided to take his lyrics or his statements and twist them into something completely different, that’s on them, not me. It's the same old story—it's like when Lemmy says Motörhead is rock 'n' roll, but all the metalheads out there insist it's something else entirely. Or like how Sale from The Beat Fleet says that even if they dropped something incredibly profound, people probably wouldn't even get it—or worse, they'd totally misinterpret it. Even Bare mentioned he could crank out an album even better than Tesko boja, but it probably wouldn't sell nearly as well. There are endless examples of this. These crowds are driven by pure emotion rather than intellect; they don't actually *listen*. They just project whatever they want onto the music and reshape "reality" inside their own heads—which is basically just childish behavior, let's be real. But hey, whatever... some things are just too complicated for people to grasp, so why even waste the breath?

Don't bother wasting your time digging through Wikipedia—here's the deal:

Susan Price30 said:just shut it! 😉

hey!

Obviously. 😉
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George Hill4 said:1. No way

2. And here's why 🙏

Anyway, let's stop trolling this thread—everyone can have their own opinion.☕

1. It is

2. What's the alternative? Voluntary change, sure. Fine. But if the primitivism doesn't stop, then you get conflict. Or multiple conflicts. To prevent that, you'd have to wipe out the root cause (mass primitivism, nationalism, religion, and all those other unnatural psychoses). If they can't be educated peacefully, then what? Otherwise, we’re stuck with hatred and wars forever. Is that not obvious?

No need to troll. Let's just move on, but yeah—resistance from the majority is expected, because people aren't going to walk away from their filth in some polite manner. Hopefully... that's where my comment was coming from.

George Hill4 said:Everything you just listed falls under your personal opinion. It doesn't bind anyone, and it doesn't mean everyone with a different worldview or perspective is automatically an idiot. It's exactly those kinds of extreme views you're pushing that create the perfect breeding ground for totalitarianism and mindless conformity.

Fine, it's my personal opinion—but that doesn't make it any less intelligent, high-quality, or right. If someone attacks my view just because they feel threatened by how much smarter it is than theirs, I'm ignoring that. Whatever. Totalitarianism is a specific topic for a separate debate. If it's set up poorly, it's bad; if it's set up right, maybe it isn't. You know why? Because I start from the assumption—nature's reality—that high-quality people are rare. If they weren't, every second person would be a Tesla or an Einstein in every field of science and art... but we know that's not how it works, because you need baseline intelligence, then education, then massive effort—actual work. Most people aren't any of that; they're average or below. Some lady who doesn't even know what fiscal policy is goes out to vote—how is she supposed to vote if she doesn't even know what's at stake or who to pick? It's theater. People have "freedom," but they're choosing between political parties that were allowed to become popular thanks to the media, and then you "choose"—but since you don't know how the government actually functions behind the scenes or how the economy works, how can you possibly know who to vote for? It's pure theater for the masses. Now, here’s the issue with absolute freedom: this majority—driven by their own mass and, let's face it, the jealousy they feel toward anyone more capable or smarter, which we see all the time—imposes its mediocre or sub-par, moronic solutions and mindset on everyone else. That's why we deal with these issues regarding national and religious mindsets throughout history. Instead of people realizing these things are nonsense and fabrications rather than laws of nature—which actually go against nature—they just accept them. Or maybe it's not in the interest of the masses to realize that? On the flip side, if the intelligent minority actually ran things—if they used a temporary totalitarian approach to break up the stupid mob through education (starting from elementary school) and raising awareness instead of numbing people with nationalism, Big Brother tactics, or trashy pop stars—then a healthy version of totalitarianism might not be such a bad thing. Otherwise, this majority imposes its provincialism, and like they said in *Idiocracy*, we end up in a situation where Stupidity is Universal. And then us? We're stuck dealing with the fallout. Everywhere you look, it's idiots, stupid conversations, dumb humor, and mindless chatter every single morning on the subway, etc. Any normal person would want to snap.

And then you get some guy who spews the same primitive garbage (though if he wasn't wired that way, he wouldn't be saying it) and suddenly we're supposed to listen to him sing about God and the flag? No chance. Not happening. I see enough mental sludge around me on the news, social media, and the subway...
It's a shame; he had a temporary shot with that first album to head down the right path, but he didn't... He can just put on his priest outfit and drone through his concert. Pure horror...

But hey, that's "my" opinion. And the masses will keep doing what they do. Then one day, someone snaps, drops an atomic bomb on that crowd, and suddenly he's the big bad Hitler and a monster—when really, he just cleaned the pus out of a wound, a wound I call humanity.
Things are looking grim for humanity; no matter how you slice it, there's no light at the end of the tunnel...

George Hill4 said:What a load of "mature" thinking... NOT!🙏 So, what you’re saying is—if this guy happened to be a total junkie or joined some weird pagan cult that sacrifices chickens and whatever, he’d still be your favorite person? But since he isn't, he's automatically some low-class hillbilly? Seriously?🤣

Look, a person's religion, politics—whatever else they believe in—is their own damn business. Once you finally wrap your head around that, life gets a whole lot easier.☕

Yeah, sure. But when they actually apply that logic to their work, it’s just repulsive. Once you wrap your head around the fact that nations are nothing more than imaginary cults cooked up by humans—Mother Nature didn't just wave a magic wand and suddenly create borders, flags, and countries out of thin air—you realize it's all totally unnatural. It’s just like religion: believing in something that isn't even there. In medicine, they call that a diagnosis. These delusions are the primary tools used to fuel every war and tragedy in human history. If you don't grasp those basics, you're basically just part of the herd being led around by the nose. So, look—if unspecified starts preaching this primitive nonsense in his songs—whether it's driven by a fear of death (maybe that surgery, or just plain old lack of intellect) or some other caveman instinct—then yeah, he's just a hillbilly. You can't argue against basic intelligence and the laws of nature. People clinging to these psychoses about gods and nationalism aren't exactly mentally sound. We've had enough of the idiots out there pushing these grotesque, 15th-century mentalities. People are sick of this crap.
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That track is from the Ice Age album back in '97—second song on the record. Unspecified did the production and played on "generation." But man, when you actually look at those lyrics—which would be killer under any other circumstances—once you realize where unspecified is mentally these days, thanks a lot... "I am everything you can never have"... that line should basically be aimed right at him. It’s a damn shame what a guy turns into. But hey, enough bashing. It's just a waste because the audience here is totally brain-dead... These are the types who pack stadiums, just like unspecified would, while unspecified can't even sell out a venue like Madison Square Garden—even though they're easily filling venues over in Mexico, Canada, or the Netherlands... That's just how people are around here...

By the way, unspecified isn't exactly playing chess here—he's not nearly as deep as his music makes him out to be, kind of like some pop act trying to preach to the masses... And look, you can mask a lack of depth if you're clever enough, but he's not even that. He just throws out lines in his lyrics that someone actually smart wouldn't dare say. Then there's whoever from unspecified who carries certain vibes, but even they aren't hitting any intellectual heights. They talk short and sharp—never deep or detailed—just so nobody catches on to how empty the tank is. Honestly, they’re probably smart enough to know their limits, which is why they dodge any real debate. But unlike unspecified, unspecified actually had an ear for sound and a drive to experiment, which is how they built something unique with unspecified—it was all about finding that right band dynamic. The only one operating on a high intellectual level, both in thought and intuition, is unspecified from unspecified, but the general public doesn't get it. People just swallow whatever they're fed. It's just like that song, "People only know what they're told." Look, none of these guys are bad people—not scum or anything—but there's way too much mystique surrounding them. We need to get real about who actually brings what to the table musically... bring it back down to earth. Unspecified had similar thoughts to unspecified, though not quite as profound, but musically? Pretty weak compared to the others—just mass-market pop-rock. Anyway, that's my take... I know all of them, by the way... (except for the late unspecified)

PS. Another guy from that crew who's easily one of the smartest is unspecified from unspecified. Everyone in that group is decent enough, but unspecified stands out from the pack. Out of that whole scene—unspecified, unspecified, unspecified, unspecified, unspecified—he and unspecified are the ones I respect the most.

You know what, ever since the old days fell apart—right around when Cane had that throat surgery and was dealing with his drug issues—everything just shifted. He turned into this pathetic, rambling guy obsessed with nationalism and religious fanaticism. Total rock bottom. Honestly, just hearing someone call him "one of the biggest stars in the States" makes me sick. If people like him are the top tier, what does that say about the crowd following them? To me, he’s basically become a closet version of Bor Djordjevic, and his music is no better than some country singer or those old pop acts... just folk music played through distorted guitars. There's nothing left of the Cane from the first Rolling Stones album, maybe a little bit of the second and third. After the third one, it's straight down the drain. From singing about God (like on that "Sweet and Sour" album where he's all "Mother Mary, look at what they're doing to your kids...") to standing up after a show telling people how the nation and God are sacred and must be respected (I remember seeing it at Rock Otocec in 2003, and later at Factory 2007 or 2009, I can't quite recall...) etc. Sorry, but that mindset has zero connection to R&R. That isn't R&R! It's just masked nationalism—tribal territory marking, like dogs—mixed with religious zealotry. He, Bor, and those other guys are all the same when it comes to religion, just like those other negative types out there. I mean, Cane actually tells someone in an interview on YouTube that he needs to go on a pilgrimage, even though his own "divine path" is going in a completely different direction. Look, you should actually get to know musicians (the way I do), listen to their actual music, and *then* talk. Most people don't have a clue—kind of like with most other bands. Sometimes it's better not to meet your idols. People cling to this nostalgic memory of the Cane from back before everything changed, but the Cane we have today has nothing to do with the guy from the old days. And that's three exclamation points for you!!!

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silentridge84 said:CDs:

1. Partibrejkers I ($17) Mint
2. Srdjan Gojkovic Gile - Evo sada vidis da moze ($17) mint
3. Enya - Watermark ($13) NM
4. The Doors ($13) mint
5. The Deviants ($17) mint
6. Boye - Prevariti naviku ($17) NM
7. Partibrejkers - Krs i lom ($13) mint
8. elektrican orgazam - first ($17) mint (Yellow Dog)
9. Elektricni Orgazam - To sto vidis to i jeste ($17) mint
10. Kako je propao rnr ($20) mint
11. Frank Zappa - overnuti Sensation ($17) mint
12. Miles Davis - Kind of blue ($17) mint
13. Miles Davis - tutu ($13) mint
14. Miles Davis - Amandla ($13) NM
15. Oasis - Dig out your soul ($17) mint
16. Oasis - Oasis - Familliar to millions (2cd) ($17) mint
17. Ennio Morricone (2cd) - film Music 1966 - 1987 ($20) mint
18. Santana - first ($13) Mint
19. Leb i sol - rucni rad i beskonacan ($17) NM
20. Vlatko Stefanovski - Cowboys and indians ($13) NM
21. Vlatko Stefanovski and Mroslav Tadic - Live Belgrade ($17) mint
22. Bodan Arsovski - Endless View ($17) mint
23. Obojeni Program - first two albums, Music Yuser first rare 1993 pressing. Mint ($40)
24. Paket Aranzman and Sarlo acrobat + bonus track, rare Eagle Records release, mint, ($33)
25. Joe Satriani ($13) NM
26. Vangelis - China ($17) mint
27. Disciplina kitschme - uf ($17) mint
28. Dumb and dumber soundtrack ($17) mint
29. Haustor - ulje je na vodi ($13) mint
30. Ten years after - a space in time ($13) mint
31. Jimi Hendrix - best of, 20 tracks, ($17) mint
32. The Police - outlandos d amour ($13) mint
33. Vlada Divljan and old stars band - sve lazi sveta ($13) ex
34. The Cult - Love ($13) mint
35. Creedence Clearwater revival, mint, ($17), includes bonus tracks
36. R. L. Burnside - First recordings ($17) mint
37. Motorhead - Better Motorhead Than dead (2cd), ($20) NM
38. Obojeni Program - Kako to mislis mi, vg+, ($10)
39. Brian Robertson - Diamonds and dirt, mint, ($17)

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43. Hawkwind - Sonic Attack, mint, rare Griffin Music release, ($40)
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45. Elektricni Orgazam - New Wave - Live dom Omladin 2007, mint, ($23)
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48. Hawkwind - DIstant Horizons, mint, ($27)
49. Hawkwind - first album, mint, ($23)
50. Hawkwind - In search of space, mint, ($23)
51. John Lee Hooker - It serves you right to suffer, nm, ($17)
52. Lightnin Hopkins - Complete Herald sessions, mint, ($40)

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2. Srđan - Evo sada vidis da moze ($17), mint
3. Enya - Watermark ($13), NM
4. The Doors ($13), mint
5. The Deviants ($17), mint
6. Boye - Prevariti naviku ($17), NM
7. Partibrejkers - Krs i lom ($13), mint
8. Electric Orgasm - first one ($17), mint (Yellow Dog)
9. Electric Orgasm - To sto vidis to i jeste ($17), mint
10. Kako je propao rnr ($20), mint
11. Frank Zappa - Sensation ($17), mint
12. Miles Davis - Kind of blue ($17), mint
13. Miles Davis - tutu ($13), mint
14. Miles Davis - Amandla ($13), NM
15. Oasis - Dig out your soul ($17), mint
16. Oasis - Familiar to millions (2cd) ($17), mint
17. Ennio Morricone (2cd) - Film Music ($20), mint
18. Santana - first one ($13), Mint
19. Leb i Sol - Rucni Rad i Beskonacno ($17), NM
20. Vlatko Stefanovski - Cowboys and indians ($13), NM
21. Vlatko Stefanovski and Mroslav Tadic - Live Belgrade ($17), mint
22. Bodan Arsovski - Endless View ($17), mint
23. Obojeni Program - first two albums, Music Yuser first rare 1993 pressing, Mint ($40)
24. Paket Aranzman and Sarlo acrobat + bonus track, rare Eagle Records release, mint ($33)
25. Joe Satriani ($13), NM
26. Vangelis - China ($17), mint
27. Disciplina Kičma - uf ($17), mint
28. Dumb and dumber soundtrack ($17), mint
29. Haustor - ulje je na vodi ($13), mint
30. Ten years after - a space in time ($13), mint
31. Jimi Hendrix - best of, 20 tracks, ($17), mint
32. The Polica - outlandos d amour ($13), mint
33. Vlada Divljan and old stars band - sve lazi sveta ($13), ex
34. The Cult - Love ($13), mint
35. Creedence Clearwater Revival, mint ($17), with bonus tracks
36. R. L. Burnside - First recordings ($17), mint
37. Motörhead - Better Motorhead than dead (2cd), ($20), NM
38. Obojeni Program - Kako to mislis mi, vg+ ($10)
39. Brian Robertson - Diamonds and dirt, mint ($17)