Moderating the "pets" section
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Look, I didn't mention that trainers hold certifications and work in coordination with state agencies just to brag; I brought it up to illustrate the fundamental flaw in how you moderate this space. Animal cruelty is strictly defined by law, and the government delegates the enforcement of those standards to organizations, institutions, and individuals who hold specific certificates, credentials, and licenses. It is not your job, nor is it the job of a handful of local users here, to invent a new value system to govern this forum—this isn't your private estate. Therefore, citing certified trainers isn't a deflection; it serves to point out that you are merely enforcing your own personal set of values.
My pet regularly visits both authorized veterinary clinics and certified professional trainers. My pet is neither malnourished (despite occasionally skipping meals for two or three days for training purposes) nor injured (even when he gets rough with me or lunges at another animal, he receives swift, necessary corrections). You have zero evidence that I abuse or mistreat animals, yet you insist on insinuating such things by commenting on the very points I am trying to convey.
Your arrogance isn't limited to attempting to impose your manufactured standards and interpreting complex concepts through the lens of a tiny clique of users; it extends to you declaring, as if it were fact, that the dogs in this specific post are happy and cooperative... that kind of condescension is pure hubris.
I agree that force-free methods are commendable and useful; any method is excellent as long as it works and doesn't harm the pet. However, the way you and a few others promote this as the sole, holistic methodology is actually detrimental to people. My pet was raised using these methods for much of his life. But you are so self-important that you spread the notion that your perspective is the only correct one, despite the widespread application of diverse techniques across the globe. There is no single method that covers every breed, every temperament, and every situation, regardless of how much you try to force that narrative on this forum. Both RCI and balanced training methods are successful, realistic, and respected by professionals; these approaches, which you seem to find abhorrent, are accepted practices used by every successful trainer in the country and align with the standards held by our national institutions. They do not harm the pet in any way, a fact that any veterinarian my pet has seen could confirm.
This site is honestly one of the most pathetic corners of the internet for objective, constructive debate; it functions more like a promotional tool for one specific style of training. You always see the same four or five users positioning themselves as the "official educators" of the community. There is no actual, meaningful discussion here that benefits anyone. If this sub-forum refuses to acknowledge that there are circumstances where it is justified for a human to be bluntly firm with a child, or situations where a disrespectful, aggressive pet needs a physical correction, then this place will always feel less like a service and more like a religious cult dedicated to spreading the dogma of force-free training.
I have no interest in debating who has more experience owning dogs. You truly don't know me, and your arrogance is once again on display as you dismiss me as an amateur, as if we’ve been acquaintances for years.
Just to clarify regarding the shop name I mentioned—the only place in the country that openly sells and advertises the collars I suggested (which you claim are illegal), and which supplies the Department of Homeland Security, the military, and the Coast Guard—the name is literally "My Friend." I wasn't advertising a "friend's shop,"😁 I was naming the business because no other shop exists that carries that specific training tool. It wasn't an ad. And frankly, for someone claiming fifteen years of experience as a dog owner, it's telling that you aren't aware of the only major retailer in the country specializing in professional kennel equipment. This isn't about quantity; it's about quality.😉
Let me say this one last time: I am not here to start wars, to insult anyone, or to promote anything. I almost exclusively show up when someone asks for help to share my experience. I am not here to lecture or to be contrarian. Any sharper posts I have written were directed at users who commented on my posts without being the original authors I was actually trying to assist.
I want to reiterate once again that I am not an advocate for violence or abuse; rather, I support force-free methods—though, granted, not in the dogmatic, evangelical manner you seem to prefer when discussing a pet. However, I simply cannot manage to aggregate enough posts within the pet subforum to provide the full context of my position, a situation for which both you and the moderators are ultimately responsible.
My pet regularly visits both authorized veterinary clinics and certified professional trainers. My pet is neither malnourished (despite occasionally skipping meals for two or three days for training purposes) nor injured (even when he gets rough with me or lunges at another animal, he receives swift, necessary corrections). You have zero evidence that I abuse or mistreat animals, yet you insist on insinuating such things by commenting on the very points I am trying to convey.
Your arrogance isn't limited to attempting to impose your manufactured standards and interpreting complex concepts through the lens of a tiny clique of users; it extends to you declaring, as if it were fact, that the dogs in this specific post are happy and cooperative... that kind of condescension is pure hubris.
I agree that force-free methods are commendable and useful; any method is excellent as long as it works and doesn't harm the pet. However, the way you and a few others promote this as the sole, holistic methodology is actually detrimental to people. My pet was raised using these methods for much of his life. But you are so self-important that you spread the notion that your perspective is the only correct one, despite the widespread application of diverse techniques across the globe. There is no single method that covers every breed, every temperament, and every situation, regardless of how much you try to force that narrative on this forum. Both RCI and balanced training methods are successful, realistic, and respected by professionals; these approaches, which you seem to find abhorrent, are accepted practices used by every successful trainer in the country and align with the standards held by our national institutions. They do not harm the pet in any way, a fact that any veterinarian my pet has seen could confirm.
This site is honestly one of the most pathetic corners of the internet for objective, constructive debate; it functions more like a promotional tool for one specific style of training. You always see the same four or five users positioning themselves as the "official educators" of the community. There is no actual, meaningful discussion here that benefits anyone. If this sub-forum refuses to acknowledge that there are circumstances where it is justified for a human to be bluntly firm with a child, or situations where a disrespectful, aggressive pet needs a physical correction, then this place will always feel less like a service and more like a religious cult dedicated to spreading the dogma of force-free training.
I have no interest in debating who has more experience owning dogs. You truly don't know me, and your arrogance is once again on display as you dismiss me as an amateur, as if we’ve been acquaintances for years.
Just to clarify regarding the shop name I mentioned—the only place in the country that openly sells and advertises the collars I suggested (which you claim are illegal), and which supplies the Department of Homeland Security, the military, and the Coast Guard—the name is literally "My Friend." I wasn't advertising a "friend's shop,"😁 I was naming the business because no other shop exists that carries that specific training tool. It wasn't an ad. And frankly, for someone claiming fifteen years of experience as a dog owner, it's telling that you aren't aware of the only major retailer in the country specializing in professional kennel equipment. This isn't about quantity; it's about quality.😉
Let me say this one last time: I am not here to start wars, to insult anyone, or to promote anything. I almost exclusively show up when someone asks for help to share my experience. I am not here to lecture or to be contrarian. Any sharper posts I have written were directed at users who commented on my posts without being the original authors I was actually trying to assist.
I want to reiterate once again that I am not an advocate for violence or abuse; rather, I support force-free methods—though, granted, not in the dogmatic, evangelical manner you seem to prefer when discussing a pet. However, I simply cannot manage to aggregate enough posts within the pet subforum to provide the full context of my position, a situation for which both you and the moderators are ultimately responsible.