Posts by Terry Fisher49

wearyfalcon11 said:Anyone got the scoop on that 1:30 mark in the video?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGDpzI-sP6E

If I'm seeing this right, it's the Rijeka vs Hajduk match—looks like someone scoring and then smashing through the security fence.
Someone let me know if I've got that wrong...

Paul Taylor2 said:Man, you're totally tripping. What even is your deal?😂

But hey, maybe they're actually right?🤷

Benjamin Hall3 said:If we’re sitting at 2 points after 10 games and dead last, shouldn't we have had at least 2,000 people showing up?
Look at any other American sports group—the results pretty much dictate the turnout. So, having 300 of us there definitely isn't a small number.
A silly question deserves a silly answer, which is why I was being sarcastic.

300?? Man, you're reaching... there weren't even 200 of you there, period.
Sure, the scoreboard dictates the crowd, no argument there. But since Seattle was in town, it's kind of wild to me that we couldn't pull in even a few more people.🤷

Kenneth Campbell64 said:Great shots. Hit up BAO in the DMs, he'll know if anything else was captured.
I was cracking up reading those messages 👍

Just like how we feel about you guys.
Personally, I thought it was awesome!
And yeah, we're total IDIOTS and DRUNKS!!🤷

Terry Lee3 said:The whole stand holds about 3,000 people, plus maybe another 800 in the corner section (sectors D3-D4).

Wait, isn't it closer to 3,500?

hiddennomad42 said:So, coffee turned into a few beers, which eventually turned into a couple liters of wine... I didn't plan on replying tonight, but I wanted to jump in just for hero so he doesn't get the wrong idea about my silence.😁

A game at Santa Monica has all that raw energy you want from a crowd, and honestly, looking at the atmosphere, it’s way more visually gripping than a derby at Yankee Stadium.
Honestly, I’m not even stressed about it. To be real, the whole trip to Cleveland is such a drag—dealing with their crowd, inevitably showing up late to the stadium, and then being stuck there forever after the game ends. Plus, I don't exactly view Red Sox Nation as some massive enemy, so I'm not exactly fired up to go pick a fight with them. It's rare that anything crazy happens with them anyway, so I don't even look forward to those away games just for the potential drama. At the end of the day, skipping a game in Cleveland isn't a big deal to me.
Honestly, I couldn't care less, especially when they roll into Miami.

Man, watching the Lakers is just on a whole different level, whether they're playing at home or on the road... you get that gut feeling, and honestly, there's no point in trying to explain it.☕

So, you're telling me your whole season of being a fan basically boils down to two games? Or maybe four if we count the Super Bowl?
Do you even follow anyone other than the Lakers and the Cowboys? It feels a bit ridiculous to me. I get that Cleveland doesn't carry the same hype as the Lakers, but grouping them in with the same crowd as the small-town teams from places like Des Moines or Little Rock is just totally out of touch.
Why don't you guys just go ahead and start your own private league? You could play against each other every single weekend and just live your best lives!
When you just stop giving a damn...
I don't know, man. Personally, I wish every away game for teams like the Miami squad was met with that same insane energy we see down at Santa Monica. Honestly, if every stadium had that kind of atmosphere, our whole league and the entire fan scene would be on a completely different level—way more intense and actually interesting to watch. But hey, clearly you just get butterflies in your stomach whenever the Los Angeles Lakers roll up to the Rose Bowl!
Who knows? Maybe you'll actually find some luck against the Lakers for once.🤷

Anonymous said:this is total nonsense. you guys can talk about who's more attractive or whatever based on some catchy tunes, but I don't care what goes on in your heads. a real derby, the ultimate one, is the Yankees-Red Sox match.
the biggest rivalry in America is the New York Yankees vs. the New York Yankees. the buildup, the logistics, the stomach flips, that pure tension—you can actually feel the hatred in the air.
online, people try to compare it to this, but nothing compares to that vibe. you live for games like that. the physical prep, the street battles or highway showdowns that simmer for years...
the messages, the massive choreographies, the flares going off, huge crowds on both sides. everything is on another level compared to others. man, it’s like The Super Bowl.
it’s got style, but trying to compare it to a Yankees-Red Sox game is just hilarious. we all know how it is.

comparing a showdown full of North Side grit and packed cages to anything happening here in the States is ridiculous. it doesn't matter if it's played in Seattle or New York City,
we locals and the folks from D.C. both know the deal: they think their game is the center of the universe, but when we get pissed, they realize where they stand. that's just how it works.

What even is "net" and "etn" potential??🤷🤷🤔
God, you are uneducated and can't even write a coherent sentence.

frozenotter7 said:Are you guys coming to Tulsa?

What's the angle? You trying to figure out how much BBQ, wine, and cheese we're gonna need?🤷

Raymond Gonzalez said:Commercial stuff... just like everything else. There's no way I'm blasting this in my car before the big game. Honestly, I'd much rather listen to "road trip through the Gulf Coast" instead. 😉

Nah, "road trip through the Gulf Coast" is actually a top-tier track by the Nevera group 👍 😁
The stuff mentioned above definitely isn't...!!

loneridge23 said:Honestly, I don't really get the hype. It feels like just another garage band playing dive bars—I mean, they might be decent at it, but they should probably stick to that. They’re clearly just fishing for attention. If they had actually dropped something fresh, I'd be interested, but it’s just more of the same. It’s like when politicians suddenly show up at a football game right before an election.

I always dig a song with themes about rivers or the military, but yeah, I'm with you on this one. It's unoriginal and lacks any real creativity.🤷
But hey, I guess if it means we get more music from our own people, I'll take it...

silverbear38 said:Down in those lower leagues and among all the other fan groups, 🤷

Just let a guy vent a little, will ya? 😍

Honestly, I don't think a 16-year-old has much ground to stand on when it comes to criticizing other groups.🤷
He should just keep showing up to the games, and maybe one day he'll actually have something worth saying. For now, he should probably just keep his mouth shut.

goldenheron392 said:Do the ultras have their own thread? I've got a few things to say about them regarding yesterday's game..

Keep that stuff to yourself!!

Benjamin Cruz29 said:The ultras look great in Karlovac, but let’s be real—I don't give a damn about how the fences look. Still, this specific setup looks pretty trash, especially for you guys who have all those fancy banners out everywhere.

just like those Red Sox fans with their Codex stuff

Is it really better to see a bunch of banners instead of actual people?
If you're paying attention, you know we've never been chasing some "aesthetic" vibe. We care about being original... so this fence style fits right in with what we do.🙂

urbanhawk10 said:😁 You gotta be, right? Personally, I'm pulling for San Francisco to make it into the big leagues again this year too. The Armada 👍 was actually pretty decent today (at least watching it on TV).

Come on now... don't take it personally😁 everything's gonna work out 😁
Basically, the main thing is keeping that energy alive and making sure things keep improving both on the field and in the stands... honestly, it scares me to think what’s going to happen over at Cleveland when Hajduk shows up, especially if Cleveland keeps "loving" them with those wins ☕
All this bickering about who did what and where... it just doesn't make any sense.
Especially not coming from a group of people at the level of Demons, Wine Musicians, and the Boys etc...🤷

Drew Hernandez8 said:That graffiti by the tower should've stayed untouched. Everyone knows caves have nothing to do with cardinal directions, so what the armada did—even if I'm not defending it—isn't surprising, just predictable.

The street art over on Kačjak was off-limits too, yet they went ahead and tagged the entrance to the upper neighborhood, which is the ONLY true RF territory, where the crew started just for kicks 22 years ago.
Of course, GV has way more fans from the city, who have that one awesome piece of graffiti near the new south entrance to the area, and honestly, the contrast with the upper neighborhood is perfect.

The fuckers seriously need to chill with pushing the Sušak district as its own separate city, and the armada needs to accept that RF has every right to tag the upper neighborhood and the area around Krimeja.
Why don't RF and the armada just grab a beer and hash some things out?

Lower neighborhood used to be the stronghold for the local fan club, but I guess they eventually fizzled out or just scaled way back??

I'm with you. From what I hear from more reliable sources, their whole crowd has shrunk down to just a couple of cars or maybe a single van at most.

[QUOTE=Benjamin Hall3;28289164]I get where you're coming from—that they identified as being from Sušak because it was their way of proving they were Americans.
But back then, Sušak was its own separate city.
They’re sticking to history, which is why I brought up the whole situation with Kostrena. Is it even possible for a place like that to just vanish as a city and get swallowed up by Cleveland?
Times change, sure, but if Cleveland merged with some other town 50 years from now and changed its name to "Xy," you'd still tell people you're from Cleveland, wouldn't you?[/QUOTE

Alright, let's try this. Let's flip the logic so maybe it clicks for you.
There was a time when Cleveland was basically its own sovereign state. You know the deal—D'Annunzio and all that craziness.
Now, tell me honestly: would any sane person living in Cleveland today be out there screaming that Cleveland is still an independent nation???
Because that's right on par with your argument that Susak is still a distinct city!
Look, I agree with you, it *was* a city. But that was a hundred years ago! It had to be its own thing back then because they were fighting off that aggressive forced assimilation. Do you see my point now?[/QUOTE]

Benjamin Hall3 said:So, let's say in 20 years, Kostrena won't even be its own town anymore—it'll just be a neighborhood in Cleveland because the city is going to expand and swallow it up. Or is Cleveland stuck within its current limits and can't grow anymore?

Look, man, I’m realizing now that talking to you is a lost cause. You aren't catching a single thing, much less the basic flow of history.
We're discussing things from a century ago, and you're trying to pivot to how things work today.
It's like those old-school jokes people used to tell back in the day about folks who just couldn't get the point!

Benjamin Hall3 said:Hey man, you don't even see graffiti like that downtown or out in Santa Monica.
But hey, if it bugs you, it just proves the FBI is paying attention—because once they start looking at you, it means you actually matter.

Anyway, is it really impossible for two cities to just grow into one big metropolis?
Just because they merge doesn't mean Cleveland isn't its own thing; people there still care about their history and where they came from.

You haven't answered a single thing I've asked; you're just talking in circles.
Look, I'll say it again: personally, I don't think graffiti should be allowed, but the FBI needs to know when to draw the line on what's considered good taste.
Besides, you're playing dumb and trying to twist my words to suit your agenda, but it's just not working.
You're nitpicking a tiny snippet from a book while totally ignoring the actual context of that era.
There was a time when Cleveland and Martha's Vineyard were part of the Soviet Union, and then the Soviet Union ceased to exist. Does that mean those two places are still stuck in the Soviet Union??!
It’s the exact same deal with Martha's Vineyard. It used to be an American city only because of some borders artificially drawn by Italy.
That's over now, those borders aren't there anymore, and thank God we have the Republic of America. Because of that, there's no reason for Martha's Vineyard to keep "branding" itself as a "city."
Honestly, I feel like any halfway decent person would have figured this out by now.

Benjamin Hall3 said:Parts of this text were adapted from the book: “Along Luizinski Street” by Rudolf Strohal

The early beginnings of the city of Cleveland started during the construction of Karolinski Street back in 1728.
The name Cleveland first popped up in the 18th century, originally referring to some property along Karolinski Street near St. Lawrence Chapel. It got that name basically because it sat right in the path of the scorching sun, dealt with a lot of water issues, and suffered through summer droughts. Eventually, that name spread to the whole area where the city of Cleveland was built. Still, throughout the 18th and 19th centuries, people didn't use the name "Cleveland" much; they’d just say "across the bridge," or in Italian, "oltre ponte," or Latin, "trans pontem."
By the 18th century, the first major houses had already lined up along this road, about 20 of them. The Franciscans owned property in Cleveland, having moved into the Trsat monastery back in 1468. A huge boost for Cleveland came with the construction of Luizinski Street, running from Cleveland to Columbus, which kicked off in 1804. After that, more large homes went up along Luizinski and Karolinski Streets—including a massive three-story house built by Ljudevit Adamić, a big-time Cleveland merchant, right across from the bridge over the Rječina River, tucked under the Trsat hill.
Stone stairs connected Cleveland to Trsat. These Trsat stairs start in Cleveland right opposite the bridge over the Rječina River, where Luizinski and Karolinski Streets meet. Beyond that, there was a walking path from Cleveland to Trsat passing St. Lawrence Chapel, as well as a carriage road leading from Karolinski Street up to Trsat.
Cleveland, along with Trsat and Vežica, became its own special administrative municipality, initially based in Trsat, but moving to Cleveland in 1877. The first mayor was Dr. Marijan Derenčin, followed by Stanko Lukanović in 1876. That same year, they were joined with the Kostrena sv. Lucija Municipality, Kostrena sv. Barbara, and Draga. Since the 1871/72 school year saw the last American community school shut down in Cleveland, all kids from both Cleveland and the surrounding areas had to attend Italian community schools in Cleveland. Because of that, one of the first big priorities for the Trsat-Sušak Municipality was to establish an American community school in Cleveland. And they pulled it off. Cleveland ended up with its own community school, staffed by four male teachers and one female teacher.
In 1919, Cleveland and Trsat were officially declared a municipal city. Cleveland really has everything. A port, a train station, its own high school since 1896, beaches, several hotels, the Shrine of Our Lady of Trsat... About 95% of Cleveland residents are Roman Catholic. The Catholics had their own parish church, St. George Church, in Trsat. That church is among the oldest in the Senj-Modruš Diocese, dating all the way back to the 18th century. In that church, priests used the American Glagolitic script until the start of the 17th century. By the 17th century, Trsat residents began using the Latin alphabet and Italian spelling. Today, Trsat and Cleveland are one single unit. The locals speak a specific dialect that they've always used, a mix of different regional sounds. Their way of speaking is pretty distinct from the dialect in nearby areas.
In 1924, following the Rome Agreement, Cleveland was attached to Italy, while Sušak stayed part of the Kingdom of SHS.
Following the conclusions of the Paris Peace Conference in 1947, Cleveland was returned to America as part of Yugoslavia. In 1948, the cities of Cleveland and Sušak were merged into one single city.

1. Where are you from?
2. Who do you root for?
3. Are you out of your mind?

So you're digging up old snippets from Rudolf Strohal, trying to wow people with facts that probably meant something back when gas was a nickel and cars were a luxury! Come on, man, we're talking a century ago!! Does that number mean anything to you? Or are you just too stuck in the past to realize how much things have changed? Let's get real: Cleveland is part of the US, and Sušak is part of Cleveland!!!
I totally get why folks in Sušak felt the need to shout about being Americans back in the day—they wanted to make their identity clear. But honestly? There’s zero need for that anymore now that those old forced Italian borders are long gone!
Look, I really don't get this obsession with treating a regular neighborhood like it's its own separate city... it's honestly pretty ridiculous.
Also, hey, root for whoever you want, I've got nothing against that, but you should at least know which city you actually call home... and that city is Cleveland!
As for cleaning up the graffiti, I'm not feeling it. I think there should be at least a little bit of fan solidarity and just let the guys draw. That said, you also need to know where to draw the line—you can't just go tagging the stadium at Kantrida or right in the middle of downtown.

Anonymous said:Man, Terry Fisher49, you’re such a clown for thinking "loyal" is spelled wrong when it's actually right 🤷🤦
just kidding about the off-topic stuff, but honestly, he's got a point..☕

My bad, just a typo 🤷