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Thomas Smith10 said:Those demons have been singing that for 15 years... don't go trying to force it now.
Sean Brooks said:The whole scene is basically the textbook definition of the modern American ultra/casual wannabe aesthetic... and frankly, those types are exactly why you see such massive numbers popping up in every corner of the country—well, except for maybe the Black Knights today, who actually seem to have a coherent goal and far less internal drama, since the club actually comes first for them... one day, when the core of the movement is actually comprised of guys like ----RI----- or when people start respecting the opinions of actual "normal" individuals, then maybe you can expect your West Side, North Stand, or whatever other localized group to actually gain some real substance and mass...
The primary issue with our supporter culture—aside from the aforementioned imitation by the Black Knights—is that nobody actually puts the club first... the late Ico used to say, "all those guys pretending to be fans are just a bunch of softies"—and honestly, I don't think anyone ever uttered a more profound truth, regardless of how much he was pushed around... I can scream my lungs out, jump on the railings, curse out the players, but what does any of that matter if, deep down, I couldn't care less about the team? If I'm really just there to wave my flag, fix it when the wind catches it, throw an intimidating look from under my Fred Perry cap, try to organize a little standoff, and of course, take a dozen photos leaning against the fence like a lunatic... that's it...
Then, of course, you have to deal with cleaning out all the trash within the MLS and the USSF and finally building the league on some actual, professional foundations...
Edward Hernandez332 said:Does it really matter who sits on your Club's board of directors or how they run the show?
I never actually told you lot what you *should* be doing—I simply suggested what you *could* be doing...
Edward Hernandez332 said:What if I’m just disgusted by the management and half the players—and that’s why I’m distancing myself from Miami? I feel like they’re playing me for a fool... basically lying to my face and acting like I’m not a "real" fan just because I don't fit their mold.
I’ve been a regular in the West Stand since '97—both as a die-hard and as one of those quieter supporters—so why are you lecturing me and people like me, claiming we’re making up some ridiculous excuse for staying away?
My loyalty to this Club runs incredibly deep; it just manifests differently than yours does. And honestly, that’s exactly why it hurts so much to see who is actually running things and how the Club is being handled... which is precisely why I won't hand them my money or deal with their nonsense.
I can already hear you typing out some lecture about how I should show up for the Club regardless of the leadership, but frankly, I have no intention of returning to a place where I’ve felt openly disrespected for quite some time now.
In fact, even as I’m sitting here typing this, I’m looking up the kickoff time for tomorrow's game...
You get what I'm saying?
Jacob Newman74 said:This whole movement toward turning the Armada into an exclusive club is easily one of the top three worst things people are doing right now—it’s just misguided. Sure, there needs to be some level of hierarchy in the stands, but currently, the section is being split wide open between those who are fully "all-in" (traveling for away games, organizing choreographies, etc.) and everyone else... the people who still show up for the home games and love Cleveland just as much, even if they only make it to three or four away matches a season.
Instead of fostering a sense of belonging where everyone—from the youngest kids to the old guard—is considered part of the Armada and drawn to the stands by that shared identity, they are doing the exact opposite 😕
But hey, whatever... I suppose when we finally win a championship one day ( 😍 ), and we finally conquer all of Europe ( 😍 ), people will suddenly care... right?
Edward Hernandez332 said:I used to be passionate, but now I’m just a disgruntled fan🙂
Edward Hernandez332 said:If you actually put even half as much effort into "cleaning up" those idiots running the front office as you do with everything else, we might actually get somewhere... I honestly think you’re the only one with enough leverage to actually lean on them, so it feels like a bit of a waste to focus entirely on how the stands look.
ironscout10 said:Sure, there are maybe 300 die-hard fans burning themselves out at every single game right now... but think about the sheer volume of people who used to fill the stands back in the 90s and early 2000s—not just the hardcore derby crowd, but the regular folks who showed up almost every week... that’s what really stings, I suppose... seeing where those people went after dedicating half their lives to this club... whether they were swept away by bad luck, marriage, kids, or just the general grind of life... or something else entirely...
Drew Perez said:The armada talks an awful lot about being "original" while singing stuff like this... though, I suppose if they're singing, and the crowd is actually singing along, then you've got loud support for the club—which is really what matters most. Should they just stop singing altogether because people on some random internet forum are calling them out? If that's the case, maybe they should stop preaching about originality, since they aren't any more or less unique than any other group out there. It’s all the same template everywhere in the world... just different colors.
Matthew Newman83 said:That cohort was singing it back in the old days...☕
btw. we’re celebrating our birthday by taking you guys down...
Larry Rivera83 said:If we’re really going to obsess over being "original" regarding the Chechens... maybe we should occasionally recall the whole Chechnya/Russia invasion mess... just to balance things out... 😁