Brandon Lopez6 said:So, the assumption is they go once a week for five years, right?
4x12x5=240
But most people actually go once a month.
1x12x20=240
The total number of sessions ends up being the same. And honestly, even if we ignore the fact that everyone is different and plenty of people just try to "patch things up" only for the illness to come back... in my book, you shouldn't be looking at averages when it comes to psychiatry.
I’m not quite sure where you're getting those figures from. If someone is only seeing a specialist once a month, that isn't really psychotherapy—that's just a quick five-to-ten-minute check-in.
Look, I’m talking specifically about psychoanalytic psychotherapy here. If you aren't meeting at least once a week, and if those sessions aren't lasting a minimum of 30 to 40 minutes—ideally 45—then you aren't actually doing therapy. At that point, you're just going in for check-ups.
The therapy I’m talking about isn't meant to be a lifelong commitment; it's designed to last just a few years at most. Also, just to clarify, a referral for therapy isn't quite the same thing as a referral for a routine check-up—with this type of authorization, you actually have the flexibility to visit the clinic up to four times a month.
Look, I think we’re talking about two completely different things here.
If someone is dealing with a chronic condition, like schizophrenia, obviously nobody should be stepping in to limit their autonomy—especially given how those diagnoses are typically managed (not that I’d know much about it; I'm just a regular neurotic myself), and it's certainly not what I'm suggesting here. I was simply mentioning something my therapist pointed out: apparently, there are groups at the psychiatric clinic where people have been coming in for therapy for twenty years straight. The thing is, that specific type of therapy isn't actually designed to last that long. That's all I was saying.
Let's say that person decides to go private and pays $300 out of pocket...$167 If we’re talking about individual sessions, let's be real: if a psychotherapist keeps someone in treatment for twenty years, most people would call that out as an abuse of power or just a way to bleed a patient dry. I mean, think about it—if you haven't made meaningful progress on a core issue within five or six years, something is clearly broken in the process.
Edit: I actually managed to find the original text about this! It's already in English, so I’ll just try to put together a rough translation of the bolded section.
No One goes to therapy for twenty years. In my view, if someone is seeing a therapist for that length of time, they aren't actually receiving therapy. How long someone stays in therapy really depends on the individual and the specific issues they're facing, so there isn't a one-size-fits-all timeline. Generally speaking, though, you can break treatment down into two main categories: short-term and long-term therapy.
Short-term therapy—often referred to as brief therapy—is designed to tackle specific, targeted issues. The core philosophy here is that once you hit those immediate milestones, you start feeling a sense of agency and competence in your daily life. That boost in self-efficacy often creates a ripple effect, positively impacting other areas of your world too. From the very beginning, this type of therapy is structured around a timeline. The goal is to reach specific objectives within a set window, typically ranging from six to twelve weeks, though sometimes it might stretch a bit longer depending on the situation. In my view, the kind of problems which short-term therapy (arguably) addresses best are primarily behavioral. These approaches usually come with very distinct labels based on their focus, such as anger management, impulse control training, or assertiveness coaching. It’s all about providing practical tools for specific challenges.
Long-term therapy is designed to dig deep, tackling those foundational issues and chronic conditions that drive emotional struggles. When you're looking at this level of intensive work, you have to realize it isn't a quick fix; typically, this kind of therapeutic journey spans somewhere between three to six years.The reason this method feels like such a marathon is quite simple: building a genuine therapeutic bond—much like any meaningful relationship in our lives—requires significant time to establish, nurture, and sustain. This type of therapy is modeled after the natural developmental milestones we see from childhood through adolescence. It follows a structured progression through beginning, middle, and final stages. That concluding phase is especially vital, as it represents the individual finally achieving true independence and transitioning into adulthood.
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No One goes to therapy for twenty years. In my opinion, if someone is seeing their therapist for that many decades, they aren't actually receiving therapy anymore.
"Long-term therapy is really about digging deep to resolve the underlying causes and conditions that sit beneath the surface, driving those emotional struggles. On average, this type of process typically lasts anywhere from three to six years."