Sebastian Vettel is going through (and will continue to go through) all those exact stages we saw with Fernando Alonso at Ferrari: the arrival—where there’s all this optimistic hype about making progress and fighting for wins; the self-delusion phase, where both the driver and the public are fed stories about non-existent improvements; the inevitable crying and complaining about how bad the car is; finally facing the harsh reality that this machine was never going to be a winner; and then, the exit.
And honestly, things won't change as long as there's this level of incompetence running Ferrari. Of course, some people figured this out a long time ago, while others will only realize it eventually. We've all heard those tired old myths about Alonso being a "poor developmental driver" and all sorts of excuses used to shift the blame onto him, rather than admitting the simple truth: Ferrari just can't seem to build a decent car.
Jacob White49 said:Huge congrats to Max Verstappen—he’s got quite the future ahead of him In my book, Fernando Alonso remains the absolute gold standard of the grid right now It looks like Sebastian Vettel has officially slipped out of the top eight drivers today Helmut Marko is set to step in for Maurizio Arrivabene Joseph is running into some serious trouble
Alogoc is out...
It was pretty obvious even before this race ended.
Jacob White49 said:Huge congrats to Max Verstappen—he’s got quite the future ahead of him In my book, Fernando Alonso remains the absolute gold standard of the grid right now It looks like Sebastian Vettel has officially slipped out of the top eight drivers today Helmut Marko is set to step in for Maurizio Arrivabene Joseph is running into some serious trouble
Alogoc is out...
Maybe, though I'd have to say that's debatable.
Jacob White49 said:Huge congrats to Max Verstappen—he’s got quite the future ahead of him In my book, Fernando Alonso remains the absolute gold standard of the grid right now It looks like Sebastian Vettel has officially slipped out of the top eight drivers today Helmut Marko is set to step in for Maurizio Arrivabene Joseph is running into some serious trouble
Alogoc is out...
But when was he ever in them?
Jacob White49 said:Huge congrats to Max Verstappen—he’s got quite the future ahead of him In my book, Fernando Alonso remains the absolute gold standard of the grid right now It looks like Sebastian Vettel has officially slipped out of the top eight drivers today Helmut Marko is set to step in for Maurizio Arrivabene Joseph is running into some serious trouble
Look, there’s no denying that Ferrari is significantly faster right now. It's obvious. Red Bull is doing everything they can to manage to wedge at least one of their drivers in between Sebastian Vettel and Kimi Raikkonen, and I honestly believe they'll pull it off.
Nicholas Newman2 said:He didn't lose any points, and attacking Vettel could have only helped his case. Constant ranting can be hard to read sometimes. 😵
That’s exactly my point, though. I keep telling him that, but he just stays stubborn and refuses to listen.🙏
Michael Diaz4 said:🤦🤣 So it would be the same thing...? Ahahahahahaha this is just classic...😒
Yeah, it would be exactly the same 🤣 So what's actually the difference there, if you ask me? Or did I somehow miss some new rule where they stopped awarding points based on finishing position and started doing it based on the time gap at the finish line? 🤔
Michael Diaz4 said:If he hadn't had that tire blowout, how many points would he have walked away with? Go ahead, tough guy... answer that.
Honestly, it’s the exact same amount he earned despite the puncture. I genuinely can't follow your logic here. Either that, or you're just trolling at full capacity.
Michael Diaz4 said:If he hadn't dropped out, how many points would he have actually scored?
Wait, what do you mean he dropped out? What are you talking about? Just take a quick look at the official race results. You've posted so many nonsensical comments here that I'm honestly not surprised you didn't actually watch the race properly 🙏
Michael Diaz4 said:He dropped points. It’s a real shame because he was driving quite well, but you can't ignore the fallout—he just lost those points on the table. Too aggressive.
I don't quite follow you there. What are we talking about? jadeseal7 says: Just adding even more salt to that poor guy's wound. 😢
Yeah, he lost everything. He’s not a bad driver by any means, but he just lost it all...
Which points? What points exactly did Daniel Ricciardo lose by his performance, which he would have secured if he had just stayed behind Sebastian Vettel? Maybe take a quick look at the race standings before embarrassing yourself with claims like that.
Michael Diaz4 said:This just goes to show how much the driver actually matters. Mercedes-AMG might have the car, but they’re lacking the right talent behind the wheel. Even Sebastian Vettel said to his boss back in Russia, "Get Max Verstappen back into Toro Rosso." Daniel Ricciardo just isn't cut out for a championship run—he lacks the tactical sense. While the others were managing their Goodyear tires perfectly, he couldn't keep them in check. The guy got a shot at it last year and completely fell apart.
Even if we assume Ricciardo trashed his tires with that aggressive driving style—which isn't necessarily a fact, since we don't know for sure—what did he actually lose by doing it? He at least made an attempt to overtake Sebastian Vettel, which is what you're supposed to do. Was he meant to just circle behind him aimlessly? Your logic is totally backwards.🤦
Sebastian Vettel and Daniel Ricciardo took one approach, while Max Verstappen and Kimi Räikkönen went a completely different way. Based on the driver selection, it’s clear the pit wall believed the first strategy would be the faster one, but looking at how things unfolded, it seems everything actually played right into the hands of Max Verstappen and Kimi Räikkönen.