Posts by Jeremy Torres17

Sarah Anderson6 said:☕

Tick-tock. 😁

Man, if this thing goes down because of this—it’s the exact same nonsense they used against Al Capone... All because of some absolute bullshit statement. 😬

Delvecchio said:When asked if they plan to address Jerry Jones' hate speech, Čičak just deflects—asking, "Well, did you see what John Jovanovic said?"—before nervously stumbling toward the conclusion that there will "be an official statement" regarding Jerry Jones.🤣

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shadowviper142 said:🤣🤣

Heh... We really ought to look at the track records here—comparing the path of a profiteer like Zdravac against someone like that "Mexican," John Jovanovic. Let's see how they actually stack up. 🙂

But honestly? These comments are insane. It’s pure kamikaze rhetoric—straight-up hate speech, regardless of what year it is... Either he's completely lost his mind and is digging his own grave, or he truly believes he's untouchable. 🤷

Edit: Waiting on HaHaO 🙂

Jesse Campbell said:That’s exactly what I said—nothing more, nothing less. I wasn't belittling anyone, nor was I just talking trash. Look, I lose my cool when I'm provoked—plain and simple. But anyone with half a brain can see what my actual point was.

Look, Jesse... this is just going in circles, and we’ve already covered this. It feels like I picked a fight with you for no reason, even though you haven't actually said anything wrong... it just turned out that because you guys are the biggest in Europe—claiming other groups didn't fight as hard or have the same history, blah, blah, blah... That’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it—and in a way, you're right. But what I'm trying to get across is that this "history" doesn't automatically make you bigger than everyone else, because plenty of people simply haven't had the chance (God forbid this becomes seen as something totally cool or even desirable 🤣) to face such brutal circumstances... If someone had a reason to act differently than you all did, then they can live with that—it’s their conscience—and sure, they might lose credibility or some sense of standard, absolutely. You guys have definitely made your reputation clear.

I don't want to keep arguing about this, especially since I see some Boys starting to come after me... Honestly, let them!

Jesse Campbell said:Are you seriously suggesting that we’re the only ones in all of Europe dealing with some powerful figure screwing over our club and the entire group? Come on—really!?

Is anyone else seeing this? Seriously—is nobody going to say anything?

Jesse Campbell said:Name the group that spends 80% of their history fighting someone—and I don't mean just anyone. Of course, there was always a reason behind it. But they had plenty of other reasons too—so yeah, they really stepped in it..

There—that should give them something to chew on.

Hey there!

Jesse Campbell said:You’re completely missing the point.

It's obvious everyone is ignoring your posts because they can't even wrap their heads around what you're trying to say—honestly, even the most mindless idiots get more engagement than this.

Look, any sane person can see that in yesterday's long-winded post—especially that first section—you were basically trying to force the idea that the Bad Boys are responsible for Jerry Jones' downfall, while claiming other groups didn't act the same way, making the Bad Boys "number one"... I don't know how much stupidity one can tolerate before realizing you shouldn't compare your situation to anyone else and expect the same reaction... It’s frankly ridiculous—I mean that sincerely—and it’s not like you don't realize it; you clearly know how to handle your own propaganda. Go ahead with the propaganda if you must, but using others to justify yourselves is just distasteful.

God forbid we ever face a situation where someone tries to change our name or tear apart our group or club for years just because someone needs to prove themselves to you. 🤮

Just do your job and stop comparing yourselves to everyone else. Ciao!

Jesse Campbell said:When did I even bring up the Seattle Sounders fans? Now, I haven't even mentioned the Los Angeles Raiders fans, yet here we are—five pages of pure nonsense. And apparently, we’re the weak ones, the small group... the pathetic ones. And we certainly don't have the most legendary supporter culture in all of Europe...

Good grief... 😍

That’s exactly what you said right here—it's plain as day if you actually read it. ☕

Jesse Campbell said:I'm not claiming every other group is working as agents, nor am I saying nobody else protests their management—but nobody else carries a history quite like ours.

If anyone here—or anywhere else, for that matter—can point me toward a comment matching that second bolded part of your post... specifically from someone who actually acts like a sane Seattle Sounders fan, then I’ll immediately go ahead and eat my hat. ☕

Jesse Campbell said:Personally, I would never praise the Chicago Blackhawks fans the way you just did.

When people from John Doe's area comment—whether it’s about your lot or the Los Angeles Raiders fans—they do it purely logically. It's objective, without any subjective bias, and that's a fact; there’s no brown-nosing involved here...

Honestly, I can't stand you—not as fans, not as club supporters, not locally, and not regionally... It seems we clash with you less because, by nature, you aren't exactly buddies with the folks from the South; you stay in your own backyard, mind your business, and don't meddle where you aren't wanted... But, if there's one thing we hold against you—specifically you—it's that you try to elevate your group by comparing yourselves to us. History hasn't put us in the same league, let alone similar situations. That's all I have to say—feel free to keep making those comparisons. ☕

Austin Chase2 said:Exactly—bravo. Finally, someone actually admitted that you guys weren't even fighting against the mafia within US Soccer. There—discussion closed.

Your fight against the local tycoons is a completely different story, and credit where credit is due on that front.

See, this is the core issue—anyone thinking this way lacks any sense of reality. Honestly, anyone claiming one fan group is responsible for another group's actions is just insulting everyone's intelligence and deserves an immediate ban. It’s ridiculous... Anyone who actually gets things done does it for themselves and their own interests, with varying levels of success depending on the circumstances they face... ☕

Jeremy Torres17 said:So, you're approaching this from the wrong angle again... Look, I respect what you've done, truly, but you can't use your own group's experience as a blueprint for everyone else. You just can't.

Drawing that parallel is a total failure. I mean, come on—your group moved the way it did because of specific primary reasons; you were acting on the emotions of your club and your supporters, which sparked the struggle. That part isn't debatable.

How do you expect a fan group like ours to clash with the establishment in the exact same way you did with, say, the owners of Los Angeles FC—who basically run US Soccer too? First off, every one of us is most intimately acquainted with the corruption in our own backyard. You can't expect our other two groups to run across town to help you out the way those guys did back home... Nor can you expect boycotts. Boycott who? Our own management? Our own clubs? If we tried that, we'd get torn apart by the rest of the fanbase because it would be too extreme. For twenty years, that leadership hasn't been digging holes under us, so people don't feel the need to take a stand like yours did—so using your situation as an argument doesn't work. Also, you can't expect us to protest against the league heads when they aren't actively working against us like they are with you. Do you honestly expect us to just show up on your terrace and join your protests? Now *that* sounds like something a real alliance might look like, I suppose. 😁
Furthermore, you can't demand the same level of action from others that you took. Your situation was a fight for your specific group and your specific club—every direct action you took had its own logic and purpose. Period.

Simply put: once you realize that since our club isn't in the same mess you are, certain types of "useful" struggles just won't happen, the parallel falls apart completely. What the fan groups provided—through specific chants, messages, banners, media presence, or various organized actions in cities all over Europe—was simply beyond what could be expected given the context. .. So, we arrive at the real question: why hasn't there been any concrete, unified coordination among the fans? That is the biggest issue, the main thing, nothing else... Let me repeat: aside from supporting our own club and the individual actions taken by our groups, nothing more can be expected—as I've already laid out above.

Now you’re going to lecture me about how this is all for your sake—about your future and blah, blah, blah... But once people realize that things haven't been the same for twenty years, you can't expect us to just follow your lead. You have to ask yourself: why hasn't anything been agreed upon collectively? And let's not forget after that robbery back in '99—when the fan group was pointing out the corrupt officials, other groups were just acting like "what's it to me?" While the club was calling out US Soccer and looking for solidarity through protests and other actions, nothing happened. We got absolutely nothing. There was no support because everyone else only cared about their own image, scoring goals, and whatever else... Look, man, tone down the self-righteousness. You jumped into this fight ten years late—after certain groups had already spoken up, though obviously for selfish reasons, just like you and the other fan group. It's all very clear. A little logic wouldn't hurt; instead, you're just aggressively making comparisons that don't make any sense—dammit, you're just making things worse. 🙄

Good grief.

Neither unknown nor anyone else has added anything to this because there's nothing left to say. The only issue here is that someone clearly has an inferiority complex, using this sick propaganda to manufacture myths—acting like some delusional hero who deserves credit for what they might supposedly gain in the future... Get lost. Have you no shame? 🤮

And if things actually get fixed, it’ll be the government and that clown from the coastal city doing it. Then we'll be the ones laughing at you, because once again, those "coastal folks" had to step up and fix everything—just like they did during that match against the big powerhouse at the stadium. God, the stupidity is unbelievable!!!

LA Lakers fans said:Symbolically speaking, that’s actually quite accurate ☕

On that day, it became crystal clear—war was inevitable. 🙂

Even though this all went down at our home stadium, guys from other groups played their part 🙏 naturally led by the BBB! 😉

We aren't downplaying the Torcida action where they halted the game against the New York Yankees four months later by lighting those Yu-flags—but obviously, May 13th carries much more weight in this context.

That’s exactly what I mean about this madness... Imagine if someone from a rival city came along now and said, "Look, that happened at the LA Lakers' stadium, multiple groups were involved, but we have to emphasize they were spearheaded by the Armada during the charge, the frenzy, the support for Boban, etc..." We could just look at it symbolically that way... 🙂 🙂

Good grief, have you all lost your minds? 🙄

Jesse Campbell said:Basically, the beginning of the end for this soccer mafia was when the strongest supporter group in Europe—the Bad Boys—stood up against them with actual unity and purpose. A group that simply doesn't lose its battles. We were the first group on the continent to realize that looking good in the stands, jumping during goals, or putting on expensive choreographed displays isn't everything. I’m not saying every other group is just working for the front office, nor am I saying nobody else protests management, but nobody has a history quite like ours. That is why we are the strongest.

The appointment of an inspector today is just the final nail in the coffin for those morally bankrupt thugs and their cronies. Politics is lagging behind us—just like it did back when we fought to reclaim the Dinamo name—but even they had to realize that something is fundamentally broken in American soccer. The boycott and the fight we've spearheaded over the last two and a half years emptied out Maksimir and exposed the absolute fraudulence of the leadership. And the work, primarily from ZZD, has beaten the hyenas on every single front.

Of course, it has to be acknowledged that other groups across the country have played much more vital and honest roles than they did in the 90s, contributing significantly to this struggle. Many ultras finally realized that Šmrksi and his pack of hyenas were trying to use force to dismantle the American supporter movement as their only organized opposition. These days, while Narkos is desperately, whimpering and begging—dragging in some Ukrainian equivalent (even if he just stole money elsewhere and then funneled it into soccer) to lecture us—everyone finally sees it for what it is.

The Sports Inspection will be an institution that provides CONSTANT oversight, somewhere anyone can turn if things get illegal. There are multiple layers to this; whoever designed it knew there would be attempts at bribery, which is exactly why the soccer mafia is acting so nervous. They know nothing will ever be the same again.

And then there's that guy rambling about "marginalized groups." Soon enough, he'll be playing cards with Canjuga and claiming they once decided the fate of the Bad Boys too. Let him enjoy his delusions, but he's miles away from Dinamo.

So, you're taking the wrong approach again... I respect your stance, truly, and as I said last time, you can't use your own group's specific experience as a blueprint for everyone else. You just can't.

Drawing that parallel is a complete failure. Look, I get it—your group took action because of very specific primary reasons; you were playing for the heart of your club and your identity, and those emotions fueled the fight. There's nothing wrong with that.

How do you expect Armada or Torcida to jump into a fight the same way you guys did against, say, Mamić and Dinamo—when he practically controls the entire national federation too? First off, every one of us knows our own backyard best; you can't expect our other two major groups to run around Zg doing exactly what the guys in ZZD did. Nor can you expect certain boycotts to happen everywhere. Against whom? Our own boards? Our own clubs? We'd get absolutely slaughtered by our own people if we tried that. For twenty years, Maminjo hasn't been digging holes under us, so people aren't looking to drop hands like you guys might. You can't use your situation as an argument for us. Furthermore, you can't expect someone who has been opposing Mamić and the federation all along to suddenly show up on your terrace and act in unison with you. That actually sounds like something meaningful, wouldn't you agree? 😁
Ultimately, you can't demand the same actions from others that you took, because your situation was both a fight for your group and a fight for your club. Every move you made had logic and purpose. Amen.

Simply put—since our club isn't stuck in the exact same mess you guys are, trying to draw parallels between our struggles is a total miss. The level of impact provided by Torcida and Armada—in terms of the songs, the messages, the choreographies, the media presence, and those various organized actions across cities all over Europe—just couldn't be matched... Now, we get to the actual question: why hasn't there been any concrete, unified coordination among the fans? That is the core issue, nothing else... Let me repeat: beyond supporting our own club and the historical actions taken by Armada and Torcida, you can't really expect anything more, as I stated above.

Now, you’re probably going to tell me, "But this is about your club too, and your future," blah, blah, blah... But once people realize that things haven't changed in twenty years, you can't expect our side to suddenly provide some perfect model for you. Instead, you have to ask yourself: why was it impossible to agree on anything joint? And I should mention—after that robbery back in '99, when Armada was calling out those scumbags, other groups just acted like "what's the big deal?" When the club called out the HNS and looked for support through public stances and other activities, etc... Well, you got absolutely nothing. There was zero support because everyone else only cared about how they looked in the stands or jumping around in their kits... Man, tone down the self-righteousness. You're starting a fight ten years late after certain groups already pointed the finger—of course, for selfish reasons, just like you and the Torcida guys, it's obvious... A little logic would go a long way here, rather than just blindly comparing us using nonsense comparisons that have nothing to do with reality. Dammit, you're just making things worse. 🙄

Good grief.

Jesse Campbell said:I’m not going to gloat just yet. But soon—very soon—I’ll be living my best life because every single one of my predictions is going to hit the mark. And not one of you believed me.

On that day, I’m asking everyone to please stay far away from me on this forum. Because I plan on making sure you all feel the sting of being wrong . ☕

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feralwolf16 said:You all were just as happy about those "Madonna" years back then—but reading these comments now, you’re all just acting like a bunch of clowns, trying to find common ground. You used to mock us, and then you ended up with even worse numbers; now the tables have turned and people are mocking you. You clearly don't realize there was a time when an away crowd from a city like St. Louis would barely hit one or two buses... anyway, things happen—well, they *did* happen—because when people get caught up in the euphoria, they think things like this could never happen to them. Bottom line: MYTHS of the American fan scene... the whole thing is just ridiculous...

Everything is accurate—and to make matters worse, you can't even delete it anymore. ☕

What can I even say? In the end, those predictions about the Bad Boys growing in strength and dominance throughout this whole distillation process turned out to be spot on—not that anyone actually doubted them. 🤣

I’m no insider here, but if there’s any real damage to be done in all this, it’s the fact that recruiting young talent has become an uphill battle. Since Dinamo isn't attracting anyone right now, we might be looking at a serious generational gap if our grizzled veterans hang on for too long—just my theory, anyway... And again, I’ll reiterate: I don't have a direct line to what's actually happening in the stands. ☕

Anyway, let me just offer a little more praise to reinforce this half-baked, codependent relationship we've got going on. 😬

Jesse Campbell said:Just to shut up those people claiming there were only 150 of us at Sunday's game—this was filmed from the North Stand, and you can clearly see we had a solid turnout:

San Francisco:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hloRFyQXJlU&sns=fb

Steven:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAKjcxOoleg&sns=fb

The stadium is massive and has that deep rake to it, so anything filmed from the West side or the turf looks like a tiny handful of people. Plus, there’s that old-school Bad Boys habit where everyone packs in tight against each other—that definitely changes the visual.

Especially when you consider how thin the crowds looked for other groups during their rough patches. ☕

You guys are stepping it up—there's no denying it. It's obvious. I'm sure some outsider is wondering who on earth could possibly try to push you around during games against the likes of the Yankees, Inter, or whoever else... Despite all the nonsense, people keep coming back, and your numbers are growing. The club isn't the point here—it's all about the group... You absolute maniacs. 😁

I can see that once everything settles into place, it’s going to be powerful again—maybe even more so—and honestly, that thought makes me a little uneasy. 😬

Benjamin Cruz29 said:Sure, they’re the strongest opposition—but let’s be honest: you aren't looking for justice in the league, you're just looking out for yourselves (I don't even get what you thought would change by renaming things; you'd just ignore the actual results anyway)... Just be real—if Franjo hadn't changed the name, you wouldn't give a damn about San Francisco being robbed of the title. As if you gave a single damn about the championships from 2006 to 2010
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It isn't that they didn't care—it's that you have people on some "prestigious" forum, supposedly coming from "respected" Boys, saying how much they love that San Francisco missed the title and how they enjoyed the fact that we "didn't deserve" this game. Who actually cares if we "didn't deserve" one specific match? This is about how the entire season played out... And who cares if Real Madrid was slightly better than Liverpool FC just now? If you'd gotten that penalty, you would have equalized, had two extra men on the pitch, and most likely walked away with three points. ☕

Everyone fights for their own interests in this story, just like in World War II... No Americans, Russians, or English were fighting solely for others; they fought for themselves. It's the same here with the Boys—they are doing what's best for them.

And the one thing about the Boys that absolutely irritates me is how this myth of a "sacred struggle for the greater good" is being built out of something dark—something you should actually be ashamed of. Be proud of rising above that nonsense, sure, but a little humility wouldn't hurt—they say it's a virtue, after all. ☕

Zachary Sullivan2 said:...honestly, I'm getting a bit choked up over here...► 6:56► 6:56
www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8Ck10yY0nA

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amberscout47 said:Honestly—I got chills reading about that kind of unwavering grit and pure Ultras spirit.

Man, I’m actually tearing up over here.

I’m right there with you—this hits deep... 😁

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r-JdtYfgQE

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Good grief, you people are exhausting... We have 300 members scrolling through this sports section all day—not to mention the thousands of guests passing through—yet since Wednesday, not a single moderator from the fan side has bothered to show up and clean things up. I honestly don't get it. 🙏

What the hell is this supposed to be? Everyone is signing off on a post that’s already been edited—is that actually okay? Especially when I show up just a few minutes late? Is that normal? It’s definitely not normal—it's ridiculous—and honestly, you all need to get your act together. 😁

feralwolf16, don't be such a cheapskate—just rewrite it... 🙂