Jonathan Lewis3 said:I am never going to a game again unless this stuff actually gets written into some kind of constitutional amendment.
The Ultra is the most honorable group in the country, and you all can say whatever you want—honestly. We all know how the Bad Boys behaved back in small-town Ohio, or when they were looking for trouble in Chicago... which is exactly what happened when they showed up in Philly or even at the last stadium, despite being outnumbered three to one.
The Ultra was unarmed at the last spot, and that almost cost us a massive brawl. But seriously, it’s just insane to be debating this while guys are sitting in a jail cell right now.
Look, I already said I’m not against weapons on principle, but we really need to scale them back because someone is eventually going to get absolutely wrecked. I don't see why we should try to imitate those groups over in Europe or elsewhere—people who just slaughter and kill each other. The whole point of fan rivalries isn't to leave someone permanently disabled or dead. These guys overseas think they’re so tough because they carry weapons, but if they ever ran into some Russians or Poles, they’d be wiped out instantly. Generally speaking, weapons just give an edge to people who aren't physically prepared—realistically, some random kid could jump you with a stick and win the fight. Without weapons, that’s impossible; the kid might take a couple of slaps and then go home crying to his mom for lunch. 😁
My take? A combination of both would be best. That said, we should be slowly reducing the weaponry. These recent clashes prove that instead of decreasing, the violence is actually ramping up. I’m certain that in a few years, if people keep acting this stupid, someone is going to get seriously hurt. Who is the "winner" in a conflict where someone ends up dead from a stabbing or a shooting? We need to ditch those old-school violent traditions right now. Just because they think they’re hard because they walk around with guns and knives is their business, but I don't want us sinking to that level—to the point where we show up to a stadium fueled by pure hatred just to kill each other. And honestly, it will happen if these kids don't get reined in. There are older fans around, sure, but the younger generation is definitely dominating the weapon game. So, we need more control, though I know—believe me, I know—that it's probably impossible and won't change a thing. The older generation just doesn't have any influence over the kids anymore, which is part of the problem. You can't just "educate" them; everyone is living in their own little movie and doesn't care about real-world consequences.
As for that small-town incident and your point about weapon usage—I don't know why you're lecturing us when you guys are the ones constantly shouting about it. From firecrackers to throwing rocks from the stands, your crowd makes projectiles a specialty. I remember once being in a situation where I almost took a firecracker to the head because one of your guys launched it right past my face. This is serious stuff, and some people have zero clue what they're doing; they have absolutely no self-control. Obviously, you shouldn't ban everything entirely, but regulation is necessary. Like I said, I can see the merit in both styles, but everything needs to be moderate. We need to be ready for the street fights against Italians or whoever else we might run into. And regarding the stuff about Russians or Poles—you have to stay in shape for all kinds of crews that practice different styles. Some people would say if you aren't keeping up with the trends, you aren't "cool." You have to be ready for any kind of clash, which is why I support both approaches, provided it's done in a way that doesn't result in deaths. If we keep going like this, there's zero guarantee we won't end up there.