It’s exactly what I was getting at—you don't go into self-isolation if it hasn't even been three months yet, which is precisely what you just pointed out...
Tyler Ruiz502 said:How exactly do they handle quarantine checks, and under which specific law are you actually required to open the door for a cop?
I mean, seriously—under what law am I obligated to get off my couch just because someone rings the doorbell? You could be halfway across the yard, tucked away in the garden, hiding in the garage, or even out in the barn—plus if you have a high privacy wall and two Belgian Malinois, and a doorbell that barely works...
The truth is, you don't have to open the door for a cop if you simply don't feel like it.
What on earth are you even talking about? Honestly, I sometimes wonder if anyone actually follows the threads here or if we're all just shouting into a void, waiting for an echo that never comes. It feels like I spend half my time typing out these long-winded observations—just trying to make sense of the chaos—only to be met with questions that leave me staring at my screen in total bewilderment. It’s exhausting, really. One minute I’m deep in a thought, perhaps a bit too detailed for some, and the next, I’m being asked what I’m even doing. It’s enough to make a person want to close the laptop and go for a very long walk in Central Park just to clear the head.
Are you actually trying to mess with my head on purpose, or is there some kind of twisted psychological game going on here that I’m just too exhausted to grasp?
Look, I am telling you, I LITERALLY copied exactly what you wrote, word for word.
nimbleranger17 said:I honestly don't think you're grasping the core of what I'm saying here... you asked earlier why online schooling wasn't an option for kids during previous illnesses, and I already laid out my reasoning for that. It’s quite simple, really: it’s only now that they've finally bothered to modernize things even a little bit, though frankly, it shouldn't require some grand technological overhaul or specialized training to make it work in the first place.
hiddendriver34 As if I haven't heard this all before... Honestly, looking at the state of things, I have to wonder which one of us is actually struggling to read between the lines here? I didn't even actually ask.
hiddendriver34 said:Looking at the link you shared, those measures were actually put in place back in 2020 because of COVID-19. It's a different ballgame now. Which brings me right back to my original point: what about all the students who have been dealing with chronic illnesses throughout the years leading up to the pandemic? Why aren't they being given the option to take the test from home either?
Are you actually messing with me on purpose, or is it just some kid playing games?
Honestly, it feels like you can’t even process the very words coming out of your own mouth.
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hiddendriver34 said:Looking at the link you shared, those measures were actually put in place back in 2020 because of COVID-19. It's a different ballgame now. Which brings me right back to my original point: what about all the students who have been dealing with chronic illnesses throughout the years leading up to the pandemic? Why aren't they being given the option to take the test from home either?
That’s exactly what I was getting at. It makes you wonder where everyone went—all those folks who were still reeling from the effects of COVID-19 and were stuck without any way to even sit for their SATs from the comfort of their own homes. You see them disappear from the conversation entirely, and it really makes you think about how many people just fell through the cracks because the system wasn't built to accommodate anyone dealing with health issues during such a chaotic time.
I honestly don't think you're grasping the core of what I'm saying here... you asked earlier why online schooling wasn't an option for kids during previous illnesses, and I already laid out my reasoning for that. It’s quite simple, really: it’s only now that they've finally bothered to modernize things even a little bit, though frankly, it shouldn't require some grand technological overhaul or specialized training to make it work in the first place.
hiddendriver34 said:Looking at the link you shared, those measures were actually put in place back in 2020 because of COVID-19. It's a different ballgame now. Which brings me right back to my original point: what about all the students who have been dealing with chronic illnesses throughout the years leading up to the pandemic? Why aren't they being given the option to take the test from home either?
It's for the exact same reason they weren't granted access to remote learning classes.
We have made progress, we have modernized 🤷
urbantinker8 said:Well, obviously they won't, because asking that would be, I don't know, just monstrous. honestly, I feel like everyone here has sort of lost their way with these twisted expectations.
I mean, does anyone actually go into a client's or a student's private space when they're ill for business purposes? unless you're a doctor or a priest, I suppose?🐔
Of course it isn't. I personally know a mountain of professors and even more teachers who go out of their way to accommodate their sick students. Thankfully, most educators aren't quite like urbantinker8.
Yeah, sure, you could even take the exam at home while you're recovering in a hospital. Everything is possible if you actually bother to organize it ahead of time. Obviously, you can't just call them up on the morning of the test and say, "Hey, I'm staying home today." I knew this one kid last year who had gallbladder surgery and was recovering at his house. He took the whole exam right there in his bedroom. The only rule was that nobody in the house could walk in and it had to be dead silent. Two proctors showed up, taped a sign on the door saying "State Exam—Do Not Disturb!"🤣 and followed every single protocol to the letter. Masks, six feet apart, the whole bit.
And let's be honest, I don't expect urbantinker8 to come trekking out to some sick student's house; that's hardly in her job description, given she isn't exactly known for her deep concern for the youth or their bright futures...
hiddendriver34 said:Do you actually have any data to back that up, or are you just talking out of your hat?
Let me tell you, in the school where I teach, that is absolutely not the case. I know plenty of kids who missed their state exams because they were sick with stuff that wasn't life-threatening and didn't require a hospital stay. Maybe those are outliers, or maybe my school is just some weird anomaly, I don't know. But you seem to be an expert on how every other school in the country operates—what are you, a statistician with access to all the national data?
I really hope your main argument isn't just "well, I did it that way." 😉
After twenty years in the education system (elementary, high school, and college)
I have been surrounded by thousands of students over those two decades.
That is my lived experience, along with the experiences of many others I know.
When it comes to the big ones—the exams that determine whether you pass a grade or, say, nail the SATs—people showed up even with a fever of 104 or 105... They pushed through whatever ailment they had because these are the milestones that dictate the trajectory of your entire year, if not the next five to ten years of your life...
It’s become this bizarre, wearying ritual where students roll up to their most critical finals or high school graduation exams clutching a box of tissues and nursing a nasty flu. They basically just pop a few Advil or Tylenol to numb the misery enough to function, scrape through the exam, and then retreat immediately back to their beds.
I mean, let's be honest—before the pandemic shifted everything, the only legitimate reason anyone skipped a MAJOR exam was if they were actually hospitalized... or if they were fighting some devastating, life-altering illness at home.
hiddendriver34 said:I’ve been seeing all these posts about students who are forced to miss their final exams because they're stuck in isolation or quarantine. Honestly, it’s such a massive bummer, and there is absolutely nothing those kids could have done differently to avoid it.
But what about everyone else? You know, the people who have missed out over the last few years—or even this year—because they caught a nasty flu, ended up needing an emergency appendectomy, or were just dealing with debilitating cramps on the big day? Are they somehow at fault? Does that make them somehow less deserving than the kids dealing with COVID? If we can make accommodations for one group, why shouldn't we set up a makeup session for everyone else facing genuine medical emergencies too?
There was a whole swarm of kids heading into those exams with nothing but a raging fever and the chills... personally, I remember sitting through several college midterms while shaking uncontrollably with a high temperature...
if I had stayed home because of it, I probably wouldn't have finished my degree until I was forty...
the only time people actually skipped an exam back then was when they were literally hospitalized...
I know plenty of people, both in high school and later in university, who showed up to write their exams with a broken arm—provided the hand they were writing with was free, of course... and you’d see people rolling into the exam hall on crutches with full leg casts like it was just another Tuesday...
Susan James said:But honestly, we don't need to test everyone anyway. If the reports about schools being hotspots back in September 2020 were accurate, most people have already moved past it by now. This is especially true for the seniors who had the most consistent, full-time classroom experience.
We really ought to push the local health department to release data on those who have already recovered; it shouldn't be an impossible task to get that info. On top of that, we need to rethink this bureaucratic nonsense regarding the three-month isolation rule. Most other countries recognize a six-month window for entry, and plenty of studies suggest that immunity lasts much longer than what our current policies allow.
That doesn't carry much weight, though, because most of those seniors and high schoolers who caught it probably didn't bother getting tested in the first place, so they aren't even showing up in the official records...
Because the demographic is younger, the number of officially recorded recoveries is going to look significantly lower than reality...
Sean Stewart said:The fix is quite simple, much like what I mentioned before: let any teacher who wants to get vaccinated go through the standard channels—if they don't want to, fine, no one is forcing them—but that shouldn't be an excuse to dodge proctoring duties altogether. As for the high school seniors, just run a quick test before they sit for their exams; if they're healthy, let them take the test.
And honestly, if these kids are perfectly fine—no fever, no coughing, not even a sniffle—but they happen to flag positive on some test, then who gives a damn? They might as well stay stuck at home rotting away for an entire year, even if they were feeling absolutely stellar the moment they sat down for their finals, all because of a single positive result from a test that's notorious for spitting out false positives.
But you’re still forced into quarantine even if three months have slipped by since your bout with COVID-19, regardless of the fact that you’ve still got a massive stockpile of antibodies circulating in your system...
That three-month window has already closed for the vast majority of citizens who caught it back in November and December—which, let's be honest, was when the absolute peak of the chaos hit us and everyone was getting hit at once...
And I remember clearly, they were making all these grand proclamations about extending that period to at least six months, yet here we are, and they haven't budged an inch; if it's been three months since you were sick, you're still stuck in isolation, even if your immune system is basically a fortress of antibodies...
Megan Moore27 said:Commentator Brkić actually got choked up during the broadcast while talking about Sarač, saying if he were still alive, he’d be right there watching this game too.
If anyone happens to have access to ESPN—this soccer match was recorded, it kicked off at five—would you be so kind as to grab a quick clip on your phone or whatever? I’m dying to hear the exact moment Philip mentions Sarač; I’d love to listen to that bit again. Thanks so much in advance.
Well, you can find the video embedded right here in the article:
Because, quite frankly, this whole measure is utterly nonsensical. You have people stuck in this extended isolation period for fourteen days, and even after they turn in a negative test, all it really proves is that they haven't crossed paths with someone carrying that specific British strain. But by the time our health officials actually pinpoint which cases are linked to that variant, we’re already weeks behind the curve. Just the other day, they announced that any positive cases identified as the British strain would date back to January 20th. By the time you even realize you've been exposed to that particular strain, those two weeks of mandatory self-isolation have already evaporated into thin air.
They went on record claiming that anyone who had come into contact with that genetically modified soy strain from overseas would need to spend fourteen days in isolation and provide a negative test result before they could step foot back out in public, but honestly, that’s just a total fantasy. It’s practically impossible to enforce when you consider how these things work; by the time an outbreak of that specific strain is even detected, we're already looking at several weeks past the initial exposure.
I’ve been going to the AMC for three months now, and honestly, it’s just become a sea of plexiglass shields. Last time I actually sat down to watch something, the driver—an older guy, probably well into his sixties—didn't even bother wearing a mask.
I actually witnessed a situation firsthand once—a woman was stuck in quarantine and started developing some pretty intense symptoms. She reached out to her primary care physician, who promptly wrote her a referral and told her to call the local ambulance service to get transported over for testing... She spent two agonizing days waiting for an ambulance to show up, then another two days just sitting there waiting on the lab results, all while the contact tracer from the CDC never even bothered to give her a single call. By the time she finally found out she had tested positive, the illness had already run its full course and left her body 😬
I don't have one. Once I started feeling sick, I called my doctor, and the nurse set up an appointment for me to head down to the local clinic in a small town in the US to get tested. When I asked how I was supposed to get there without a car, she just told me to call a taxi—wear a mask and sit in the back seat behind the driver. If that's what they tell you to do when you're being sent in for testing, who am I to argue?
I guess so. But at the end of the day, it’s just a huge headache for Uber drivers. I was just sharing my take, not saying how things ought to be. I know someone who caught something... honestly, I have no clue where it came from, but there's a pretty good chance he picked it up from a customer.
Quincy:
Ended up grabbing a cab to a buddy's place downtown, swiped his car to get back to my small town, then just walked the rest of the way home. Honestly? I think wearing a mask in public made me way less intimidating than sitting in a taxi with a driver for nearly an hour.
For sure, you probably did the best you could with what you had at the time. Sometimes you just don't have a choice in the matter. I mean... if you were already Downtown and could have easily walked home from your buddy—who was also Downtown—why didn't you just walk over to him? It's good you're cutting back on those Ubers... but does it really take you an hour to get from Downtown to a small town in the US? (Just asking, totally unrelated to what we're talking about.)
Not sure what the exact minimum is, but if you're pulling in less than $4,250, you get your full salary covered. No more, no less. Simple enough, right?
I mean, say you just drive a housemate or someone you actually hang out with—maybe a buddy who’s finally moved on from some rough patch... Walking or biking works fine, maybe a quick Uber if needed, but honestly, what else is there?
I know several people who don't own a car, and their families don't either; it's not a lifestyle choice, it's just that they're struggling financially and simply can't afford one.
So how are they supposed to get to their testing appointments? Are we expected to tell them to just trek 6.2 miles all the way to the clinic? In the middle of a freezing, miserable rainstorm when it's 30 degrees out?
Honestly, showing up to the testing center by car is just peak stupidity... I know a few folks who don't even own a vehicle, and they usually end up trekking there on foot, pedaling a bike, or just grabbing an Uber... I mean, seriously, if you don't have a car, how else are you supposed to get to the testing site? It’s common sense, really.