Posts by jadeowl61

Timothy Kim60 said:His buddy did him a massive favor by pulling that one, because hitting over 70°C is definitely pushing things into the red zone, and you can see exactly what I mean if you look at the thermal data in that review linked above.

It really just boils down to the specific hardware you’re running and, obviously, how robust your cooling setup is.

I went ahead and read that entire review from top to bottom.
Look, I realize there isn't a night-and-day difference in raw performance when you compare a 4770K to a 4790K, but it's well documented that the 4770K tended to run even hotter under pressure.
Personally, I have zero interest in overclocking right now. I'm planning to just run my CPU at stock speeds paired with a solid Corsair H105 liquid cooler, mostly just so I can sleep easy knowing everything is stable. When I think about overclocking, I look at the actual utility of it: since this rig is primarily for modeling and heavy rendering work, if an overclock only shaves five or ten seconds off a render time, then it honestly provides me with absolutely no real-world value. It's the same logic with gaming; if I'm only gaining maybe three to eight extra frames per second, the effort just doesn't justify the heat.
At the end of the day, I just want a reliable system with high-quality components—a good motherboard, decent RAM, and a dependable CPU—and then, come 2015, I can always swap the processor out for a Broadwell chip if it actually delivers a meaningful jump in performance.

Timothy Kim60 said:Look, hitting 4.7 or 4.8 GHz is actually a massive overclock if you can pull it off, and let me tell you, the temperatures are going to be absolutely brutal, so you really ought to budget for either a liquid cooling setup or a very high-end air cooler. It’s already clocked 500MHz higher than the i7-4770 at stock settings, which is probably why you're underestimating just how aggressive an overclock this actually is.

http://www.pcekspert.com/clanak/inte...yon-je-stigao/

If you are dead set on going with an ASUS board, there are plenty of more affordable options out there like the Z97-C or the Z97-A, or even looking toward the ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 and its ilk...

That idea regarding the SSD is actually quite sound, considering that traditional hard drives are essentially the primary bottleneck in almost any modern PC build.

I am well aware that it isn't a small jump, but a friend of mine is running that exact same CPU paired with an H105 in a push/pull configuration on an MSI motherboard—I believe it's a Z97—and he manages a rock-solid 4.8GHz across all four cores, topping out at maybe 78°C during an Intel burn test at full load, while idling somewhere between 29 and 33°C.
Though, honestly, for the type of work I do, 4.4GHz with Turbo Boost will be more than enough for my needs, so I likely won't touch a single setting.
As for the SSDs, they are an absolute necessity for any workstation, primarily to handle system boot times and ensure all the heavy software I rely on for my job runs smoothly.

Best regards.

Timothy Kim60 said:That motherboard is way overpriced—honestly, even a single Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 3 would be plenty for you. But if you aren't planning on overclocking, why bother with a K-series CPU, a Z-series motherboard, and liquid cooling? Even the power supply is total overkill. Those newer Maxwell GPUs probably only pull about 150W, so a high-quality 450W unit would be more than enough, let alone a 750W one. You could grab cheaper RAM—there's plenty of stuff that's much more affordable—and redirect that cash toward storage, say a 2TB drive if you need it, or a 250GB SSD...

I have had some questionable experiences with Gigabyte in the past, so I tend to put my trust in ASUS when it comes to motherboards. As for the K-series CPU, I am actually planning on doing a bit of overclocking—nothing extreme, mind you, since it already runs at 4.0GHz with a turbo boost up to 4.4GHz—but I might try to push it toward 4.7 or 4.8GHz. Plus, the new GPU draws about 50W to 70W less than the GTX 700 series. I already have a 2TB HDD sitting in my rig, so I'll just migrate that over, and I’m thinking about picking up another SSD so I can run two 120GB drives in RAID 0.

Jack Alvarez said:There’s actually a PDF out there that covers all these kinds of questions

Hey there, buddy.
Edit :
By the way, just purely out of curiosity, what would a build like this run me in the States if I wasn't including a graphics card?

In the US, you're probably looking at around 2486 miles maybe $5333
though, if it helps anyone, I actually just placed an order for all of this yesterday from a shop over in Germany for about 1400 bucks. That's without the GPU, obviously.

Hey everyone.

So, I find myself in need of some technical counsel regarding a complete PC build I’m putting together; my goal is to have this machine up and running no later than sometime next week, if all goes according to plan.

Here is the configuration I’ve drafted up so far.

CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K
CPUcooler: Corsair H105
HDD: WD Red 1TB (storage)
SSD: Samsung 850 120GB SSD (for Windows)
Motherboard: ASUS Maximus VII Hero
RAM: Corsair Vengeance PRO red 16GB 2400 CL11
Case: Corsair Carbide 540 air Black
Power Supply: Corsair RM750W Gold

Now, there are a few specific points where I could really use your expertise:

At the moment, this entire endeavor is going to be quite a significant financial undertaking, which means I won't be able to pull the trigger on a dedicated graphics card just yet; however, I am planning to pick one up next month—most likely a GTX 970 or a 980—and my budget for that component will be 622 miles, though I can't actually purchase it until next month when it becomes available.
Regarding the power supply, I’m wondering if this Corsair RM750W Gold will provide enough headroom for the future; I have absolutely no intention of attempting any extreme overclocking on either the CPU or the GPU, and I’ve also heard some rather dubious claims suggesting that it might actually be detrimental to run a high-capacity power supply if you aren't actually utilizing its full potential, so I'd love to know if running the PC without a GPU present will cause any issues.
My primary use for this machine is professional work—specifically modeling and rendering—though I certainly intend to squeeze in some gaming during my downtime.
Then there is the matter of the motherboard; I was thinking about trimming the budget slightly and was wondering what the actual trade-offs would be if I swapped out the ASUS Maximus VII Hero for an ASUS Z97-PRO.
Ultimately, I just need to know if it’s perfectly fine to rely on a 750W unit for a while without a graphics card, and once I finally do install one, will this specific power supply still be sufficient for the system's long-term operation?