Posts by placidsurfer9

Raymond Ortiz89 said:Man, you're back at it again with those posts about Hemić. 🙏

😁 I mean, I can't even help it when everyone starts dogpiling like this...

But whatever, the kid is the best! 😉

It’d be pretty wild if we got Vettel in the rain again, but honestly, that’s probably only happening if Hemić starts somewhere around 13th...

I mean, looks like Hemić went ahead and let down most of us on the forum again this weekend!! (Winning, obviously, but still) 🙂

stormybadger8 said:They’re back at it again with the threats about penalties🙄

At this rate, they'll probably make drivers pull up at the finish line after every single lap just to hand the race director a hundred bucks, I guess.🤣

Man, these old geezers really get on my nerves!!! Why don't they just tell them to stay within their own lane—like, full car width—and stop acting out so much!!!

hollowcanyon6 said:He totally blew it by not holding onto that lead he just earned. I seriously can't believe this, but people have been linking the same YouTube video over and over, and they still insist that Lewis Hamilton obviously missed his chance against Kimi Räikkönen...

It just shows how rushed he was... and honestly, like he never learns from his mistakes. If he’d actually used his head, he would've overtaken Kimi properly.

Good grief... what exactly does the rulebook say about "overtaking someone properly"? Can you explain that one to me??????????

The driver could've squeezed more through the chicane... even the commentator mentioned that the turning point was when he let Kimi slip past just enough to avoid a penalty... though, of course, the FIA hadn't started their usual BS until then...

Sam Roberts said:you're just digging your own grave here

He should’ve overtaken him right then and there. It doesn't even matter if he would've caught up later or whatever.

The whole point is that he didn't pass him immediately.

So yeah, you basically just argued against yourself.

Where does it actually say whether you pass him 5 inches after the chicane or 20 feet away? The rule just says you have to pass him... 🤷he passed him before the next corner... seriously, where is that written? Go ahead, I'd love to dig my own grave, why don't you explain the rule to me... it's not anywhere, and that's exactly the problem!

hollowcanyon6 said:Of course there isn't going to be some specific rule for this. ☕
It falls under gaining an unfair advantage. He cut the chicane and got that edge, which put him ahead of Kimi Räikkönen even though his start wasn't great. I'm pretty sure that whole bit—whether Lewis Hamilton actually let Kimi through or was just slower—was the only thing people were arguing about.
Personally, I think Hamilton was just slower because of his entry line, so he didn't actually let Kimi past.

Lewis wasn't floorin' it; he just let Kimi slide by so he wouldn't catch a penalty... it's obvious.. he didn't pull over suddenly because he didn't want to lose momentum, but Kimi ended up in front and he basically did his job. 🤷

Sam Roberts said:do you even get the difference here?

missing a car right after the chicane—that means you're just stuck looking at his rear end

and

driving side-by-side after the chicane toward the next corner, where you pass someone like an idiot because you took a better line

As soon as Lewis moved behind Kimi to try and grab a better line—which is true, he did—Kimi is still ahead and holds the advantage... Lewis could have taken that same line too... now everyone's blaming Lewis because he tried to dive inside with late braking... but honestly, Lewis was just shadowing Kimi as closely as he was during that side-by-side mess in the chicane... he was faster... if he'd just let Kimi go right after the chicane, he would've been right on his tail anyway...

hollowcanyon6 said:They basically just make up penalties on the fly for any incident happening in those last five laps. Back before 5/44, he would've just taken a drive-through, but now? He gets slapped with a twenty-five second penalty added to his total time, according to the rulebook.

I mean, sure, that part is true, but where does it actually say what happens when you cut a chicane and overtake
someone who was right in front of you? Like, how much of a gap is even required? Honestly, the whole thing feels like such absolute garbage, just rigged from the start...

lonebison19 said:Exactly, that’s what I was getting at! Look, if I have an issue with someone—which I don't, because these guys are all absolute pros—I'm not gonna go on a random tear just because they aren't my favorite driver. But yeah, the FIA's stupidity? That's real. I'd be losing my mind too if it were Sergio Pérez or anyone else dealing with that nonsense. I felt the exact same way last year when Lewis Hamilton could've snatched the title because the FIA basically wiped out two drivers who were ahead of him during the Brazilian Grand Prix. So, yeah, we aren't all just haters like you think!☕

Precisely! 👍

Give me a break... look, I love Kimi, he’s an awesome driver and I’m honestly gutted he crashed today. If he’d actually won, I wouldn't have felt bad because he totally deserved it... but you gotta realize this penalty is just stupid. It's so vague, and honestly? It's way too harsh...

If this happened to any other driver, they’d be losing their minds too. I was never really a fan of Alonso, but even when he got penalized once, I thought it was total BS... and I spoke up. Some of these officiating rules just aren't right, and we've never seen stuff like this before. The 90s were pure gold for aggressive racing. This whole thing was exciting for us fans, but by acting like this, they're basically killing the drive to take risks. Everyone's just going to become these stiff, cautious drivers terrified of getting flagged... what kind of races will we even get then? Total garbage.

stormybadger8 said:I honestly don't get it, you could probably kill me before I change my mind. Is there actually a rule saying you have to let him pass if you cut the track? Like, did Lewis Hamilton have to let Kimi through? Does the rulebook even specify if he has to give way after one meter, 100 meters, or like, a whole kilometer?☕

The penalty is just straight-up stupid.☕

So dumb... what a massive loophole in the rules!! ☕

Sam Roberts said:I mean, I can

just look at who I've been rooting for all this time...

Arthur Doyle70 said:What if they just park the car, hop out, and go: "Hey, my bad, you guys good?" then maybe they duct tape the part back on or wrap it in some wire, jump back in, and just keep racing? 😁😉

Exactly... I mean, there are a million examples of this happening and nobody cares... cars just fly past the chicane with damage and carry on... but THIS is different. If Hamilton didn't mess up, then he clipped that tire and the guy spun out... honestly, it's a deserved penalty, I swear!! 😁

What is wrong with those idiots up there... they must have been on Viagra today because they are acting totally hyper

I hate seeing a driver fight like hell just to have points ripped away from them like this... it’s total garbage!!

Look, I’m not some kind of McLaren fanatic... but today was just straight-up garbage!!! I honestly don't give a damn about McLaren anymore

Arthur Doyle70 said:Lap 42, yellow flag out, Kim overtakes under the yellow—and no penalty? No nothing.

Then I start thinking about when Kim absolutely wrecked Sutil and he didn't even get a penalty either. So why the hell is Kovalainen getting punished today?

And it’s the same old story... they say he's guilty just because he avoided a crash and should have waited to see if there was damage before letting him pass... I guess if there had been actual damage, he wouldn't have gotten hit with anything at all....

stormybadger8 said:Honestly, this is exactly why 🙂 I feel like watching the championship battle is just a total waste of time lately. 🤣 It’s honestly kind of ridiculous. Maybe next year they should just hand Max the Ferrari Trophy for the constructors' title and the drivers' championship right at the start of the season? Like, let Ferrari decide who they want to win this year, then maybe they’ll actually stop messing around. Then we could actually watch the fight for third place—at least that might be worth something. As for Ferrari, if they feel like showing up to a race, fine, but if not, whatever. ☕ The main thing is they just bag both titles at the beginning of every single year. 🙄

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Sam Roberts said:placidsurfer9

Look, just be objective here.

He kind of messed up.

It wasn't like he missed him; he just cut the chicane short, and then six seconds later he "passed" him because he was actually grabbing a better line through the turn.

He really should've let him through immediately. It’s pretty obvious Kimi can't catch him, so I guess they probably told him to slow down, which isn't even something Ferrari did.

From what I gather, Kimi was right before the corner in front of the chemical plant... he could've easily grabbed that perfect racing line that the other guy was chasing. ☕

Maybe he’s at fault because he was tucked in right behind and caught a break since he braked later going into the turn, but I guess that's just an advantage from that previous chicane... mmm damn. Way to go, refs.