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cosmiccyclist8 said:There was no moving it. The starting position was already on that damn dirty right side. All they did was repaint the track overnight at Senna's request—honestly, why are you being so dense? Whoever took pole would have been stuck on that right side anyway... though, I guess after qualifying, Senna finally realized what happened. But those are two completely different things, and you're seriously conflating them????

That's not how it went down—Ayrton Senna was losing his mind because he saw they moved his pole position to the worse side where there was zero grip. It was all intentional. And what's this nonsense about "painting the track"? You don't "paint" a racetrack. What kind of paint are we even talking about here, and how much "paint" would you supposedly need to use??? The reality is those two French guys teamed up specifically to screw over Ayrton Senna.🤦

mellowtiger83 said:What kind of drugs was Balestre on in 1989 when Alain Prost's intentions were clearly visible on the onboard camera, when he even checked his rearview mirror before veering toward Ayrton Senna?

Spot on. It was an open secret that Balestre and Prost were tight, and Balestre was always playing favorites to protect him. Prost intentionally cut off Senna because he thought the deal was done and the championship was his. He just didn't count on Senna actually getting that car restarted, limping to the pits to swap out the front wing, and fighting his way all the way back to first place. He pulled off another miracle, but what happened after that legendary win—how Balestre, Prost, and the rest of them ganged up to strip him of the title—hit him hard. Honestly, watching those clips where Senna is visibly struggling to hold back tears is just depressing.☕

swifttiger75 said:

ha,ha,ha,ha—just imagine that first duel. Short sleeves, a pack of "Camel" cigarettes tucked in his top pocket like Juan Manuel Fangio—a 270 HP V-8 screaming at 8500 rpm, and that Ferrari hitting well over 180 mph. If he isn't white-knuckling that massive wooden steering wheel, he’s basically flying out of the car because there are no seatbelts, no decent helmets, just some "ski goggles." Since they’re rocking short sleeves, you know it’s gotta sting when gravel hits your bare arms at 180 mph—not to mention getting hit by a hornet or something if things go south... hahahaha... talk about reckless driving.👍


The way those wheels lean when he dives into a turn with a two-and-a-half car lead—he won't be there yet, but once he clears the corner, Manuel usually just lights up a Zippo...☕

Walter Anderson43 said:People can argue all they want on this forum, but the reality remains—drivers from several different generations have consistently named Ayrton Senna as the greatest to ever do it.

The truth is, there hasn't been—and likely won't be—another driver who defined an entire era of Formula 1 quite like him; he possessed a unique ability to command the attention of the entire sport through both his skill and his persona.

To be honest, I was only four years old on May 1st, 1994—probably just playing in a sandbox while the adults were busy at a backyard BBQ—but the fact remains that every May 1st for the last decade, I’ve felt a profound sense of sadness, mourning that devastating day when the greatest left us.

With all due respect to Lewis Hamilton, Michael Schumacher, Juan Manuel Fangio, Gilles Villeneuve, and the rest—when you define a true character, you don't look at trophies, salaries, wealth, or records; you look at the depth of their impact on those around them and how long they remain in people's hearts. He is remembered by those who watched him live, those who were just being born, and he will be remembered by those yet to come.

Rest in peace, legend.

I’ve always agreed that Senna was a freak of nature behind the wheel, and I’ll tell you why he became that way. It’s the same story as Michael Jordan. Senna had every possible advantage to become the best. He practically lived in his cars; sometimes he even slept in them. Having your own go-kart by age four and all that—this is a sport for the wealthy, so you need money to play. When you combine those advantages with insane dedication and grit, you get Senna. He lived for it. From dawn till dusk. And he died for it. It’s common knowledge that the more you grind, the better you get. There might be drivers out there technically "better" than him, but they didn't have the resources, so they couldn't show what they were capable of. If you're sitting in race cars from the time you're a toddler, you're going to become a real driver. That’s why I brought up Jordan—he was out there shooting hoops from sunrise to sunset. He trained day and night and never left the court, so of course he became a legend. While other kids were hanging out with their buddies, icons like Tiger Woods were out there grinding in the elements... obviously, when you give everything to a sport and that training turns into a manic, obsessive fixation where nothing else matters, you have to succeed. Personally, I have more respect for pure natural talents who hit the top with almost zero effort... But in Senna's case, it was the perfect mix of work ethic and raw talent. He could have been the most successful driver statistically of all time, but death cut him short, leaving him with three titles (and one of those was basically stolen from him). Regardless, we can call him the greatest to ever do it in NASCAR. The man earned it.

swifttiger75 said:

That’s exactly what you want, because those "real" shots say it all. Huge props to Templar!!!

darkmarlin16 said:honestly, I’m pretty sure Juan Manuel Fangio and Prost are on a whole different level

The son of a Brazilian industrialist, Milton da Silva, was already sitting in his own go-kart at age four. He had every single advantage needed to become a legend, even taking his mother's surname, Senna, just because it sounded better. He grew up with everything handed to him—the gear, the engines, the lot. He set his sights on becoming an F1 World Champion and took the "Europe-first" route to the United Kingdom, where he started racking up wins. The bottom line is that he had the cash to chase his dreams because he came from money. Just a daddy's boy. That’s the reality for Michael Schumacher, Jacques Villeneuve, and pretty much every other F1 driver out there. Personally, I have the most respect for James Hunt. He didn't have the bankroll; he basically stumbled into the sport by accident. He barely had enough money to finish fixing up a used Mini Cooper, let alone race professionally... and so on. But look, Juan Manuel Fangio was the undisputed GOAT. The guy raced in short sleeves, without a helmet, seatbelts, or any actual safety gear. Back then, any rollover meant serious injury or death. He still managed to grab five titles and stay alive to tell the tale. And he did all that while in his fifties...

darkmarlin16 said:honestly, I’m pretty sure Juan Manuel Fangio and Prost are on a whole different level

The son of Brazilian industrialist Milton da Silva was already sitting in his own go-kart at age four. He had everything handed to him on a silver platter to become a legend—he even took his mother's last name, Senna, just because it sounded better. He had the money, the gear, and the connections, all aimed at one goal: becoming a Formula 1 world champion. His path was "Europe-first," heading straight to England to start racking up wins. Let’s be real: he could chase those dreams because he came from old money. He was a daddy's boy. Just like Michael Schumacher, Jacques Villeneuve, and pretty much every other driver on the Formula 1 grid today. Personally, I have way more respect for someone like James Hunt. He didn't have the cash; he basically stumbled into the sport by accident. He was so broke he couldn't even finish fixing up a used Mini; he was out there driving half a car without even a windshield. And so on. But if we're talking about the GOAT, Juan Manuel Fangio takes it. The guy raced in short sleeves, without a helmet, without seatbelts, and zero safety gear. Back then, any crash meant serious injury or death. He still managed to snag five titles and stay alive through it all—even doing it well into his fifties.

Check out this lineup of absolute weirdos...
1-LIGIER J55 1976.- Jacques Laffitte

2. BRABHAM BT 26 - 1968. Jochen Rindt..- seriously, look at that spoiler, holy crap...


3. MARCH 711 1971. Ronnie Peterson..


4. EIFELAND 21 1972 Rolf Stommelen---


5. BRABHAM BT46B---NIKI LAUDA

6.-TYRELL p34

Here’s a lineup of the absolute weirdest cars ever built...
1-LIGIER J55 1976.- Jacques Laffitte

2. BRABHAM BT 26 - 1968. Jochen Rindt..- just look at that spoiler, man...

3. MARCH 711 1971. Ronnie Peterson..

4. EIFELAND 21 1972 Rolf Stommelen---

5. BRABHAM BT46B---NIKI LAUDA
6.-Tyrrell P34-----

cosmiccyclist8 said:Giving up. I might as well stop trying.

btw that Williams 👍 livery is honestly so cool 👍 and what a beast that car was—that Renault V10 was an absolute gem 👍 though it could be a total nightmare to drive sometimes, super twitchy and wild, but God, Hill managed to tame it beautifully. He snatched that championship by the skin of his teeth using 👍

Nah, it’s not wasted—you’re spot on. On certain cars built that way, you can choose whether or not to run a front wing or a brake-tube. To me, it just looked weird how Villeneuve had nothing sticking out the front while Didier had everything, even though the cars were basically identical. Honestly, everything was shady back then. Even in the year Schumacher won his first title, he had some kind of plank under the car for extra downforce, and he probably used some version of traction control too, even though it was banned that season. The weirdest one has to be that Tyrrell with six wheels;

That crazy Lotus with six wheels----

Or the March with six wheels, but four in the back.....



There’s that mysterious Lotus "Six-seater" somewhere...

HERE IS THE PERFECT CAR FOR VILLENEUVE—THE LEFT ONE HAS NO FRONT WINGS TO TEAR OFF, IT'S COMPACT, AND HAS 4-WHEEL DRIVE IN THE BACK... WHILE THE RIGHT ONE IS FOR PIRONI, WHO LOVES ALL THE WINGS, FLAPS, AND SPOILERS....
IT'S A WILLIAMS CAR....

cosmiccyclist8 said:Has anyone already explained to you that those wings aren't actually that big of a deal during the ground effect era? It wasn't just Ferrari and the other teams—they’d be swapping them out here and there, too.

Take this car, for example—it utilized ground effect to its absolute limit. I mean, the entire chassis, starting right from the nose, was essentially transformed into one giant Venturi tube... Chuck even had to significantly beef up the chassis compared to the previous model just to handle the massive
downforce. It ran into issues under braking and through corners where it would act up because of sudden losses in
downforce. Despite grabbing 3rd place in the US Grand Prix, it was a nightmare to drive, so they ended up freezing the project. It looked promising at first,
but ultimately it just sent Lotus sliding backward.



edit: Just shave off a tiny bit of that rear wing... it's interesting how those wings are slowly losing their purpose entirely.😉

The Ferrari cars were built specifically to run those wings and the brake tube. They weren't the same kind of cars as the one in this photo. How can you claim spoilers don't matter in Formula 1 ??? They are huge. If you lose a rear wing or both, you’re basically an airplane taking off at high speeds. Even getting the setup right for those early team spoilers was a total headache—and Chuck even saw Roland Ratzenberger die because of a wing part failure, whether you call it a spoiler or a flap. Elio de Angelis also lost his downforce and went airborne... At high speeds, it's a catastrophe. What you're calling a "miniature" rear wing isn't small; it's just lowered due to the specific setup for certain teams. That was standard practice back in the American CART and IndyCar series... Wings actually keep the car glued to the track—once they fail, the car gets catapulted into the sky. Senna had two different rear spoilers—upper and lower—on him at Imola when he died; he was heavily equipped with every possible front and rear wing/spoiler combo because that's just what Imola requires. And both Gilles and Didier drove at Imola where Gilles didn't have a complete front set, while the cars were identical and Didier had everything ready.




At Imola, everyone runs all kinds of spoilers—that's just the nature of the track, and it's dangerous as hell. Pironi's and Villeneuve's cars were designed to carry wings that were a fundamental part of their aerodynamics.

Senna used several different types of front and rear spoilers,
like the "boomerang" rear wing and the flat "razor" ones, which Williams used in every way possible to try and fix the grip, stability, and handling of a car that was also a dedicated "downforce car."

cosmiccyclist8 said:I mean, why didn't he just let loose somewhere? Seriously. One day you're fine, and the next—boom—you're standing out there in a total downpour without him. Just stuck in the rain.

If we're talking about Didier Pironi (28)—he had his spoiler and brake ducts sorted from the jump, whereas Villeneuve didn't (maybe intentionally, since he was always smashing, losing, or tearing them up at the chicanes just to avoid an extra pit stop). That’s why Pironi had the edge in that San Marino race; otherwise, he wouldn't have even been able to sniff Gilles, let alone catch him halfway through. Gilles would've cleared Arnoux before his car even gave up on him. As I recall, Pironi wrapped up that race by clipping Villeneuve and cruising to victory with a perfectly intact spoiler and brake ducts.☕

Look, here’s the reality... Ayrton Senna wasn't even remotely responsible for his own death. His steering rack snapped while he was hitting that long left-hander at Tamburello at nearly 200 mph. He lost all control over the front wheels instantly. And in that race? There were no tire barriers or hay bales protecting the track—just raw, naked concrete walls right there. A piece of the front right suspension broke off from the massive impact and pierced his helmet, hitting his temple; at that point, medical help couldn't do anything. He wouldn't have survived if he hadn't bled out right then and there. Once the helicopter cleared, the pool of blood left on the ground was the undeniable sign of how tragic this really was. Nobody was held accountable for those two deaths or the other crashes; the track was old, bumpy, and frankly neglected. They didn't bother updating the asphalt or adding basic safety like tire walls or straw bales—stuff you'd see at local amateur races in the States just to keep people safe. But Ayrton died a hero—leading the race after taking pole and setting the fastest lap, even though he was wrestling an "unstable" car. It had been dominant last season because of all the electronic driver aids like active suspension and traction control, but they stripped all that away at Williams Racing. The engine was still a beast, but the car was basically undriveable. It would snap left, then snap right, and they couldn't find a fix for Ayrton. He came from a completely different environment and driving style, and from his very first seat fitting, he was unhappy with the comfort and how the car handled. They swapped the seat, but they couldn't fix the instability. Ayrton even asked them to check the steering rack specifically because it felt off in the cockpit. Turns out, that rack was hollowed out because a whole mess of cables ran through it, so they likely thinned the metal too much, causing it to snap. There's plenty of evidence for that—you can see in the footage that while his steering wheel was turned left, the wheels themselves were going straight, which proves the connection between the wheel and the tires was gone. This isn't an isolated incident either; steering racks have failed before, but for Ayrton, it happened at the worst possible moment at max speed... and he hit a bare concrete wall because the tiny sand trap did nothing to slow him down. Gerhard Berger had an almost identical crash a few years prior at nearly the same spot, but he walked away without serious injury. Even though there were no tire barriers back then either, the angle of impact was slightly different, so the suspension didn't pierce his helmet. Though, honestly, Berger's crash was arguably more terrifying because the car caught fire afterward and he nearly burned alive.🤦🙏So yeah...

GERHARD BERGER - IMOLA 1989. TAMBURELLO CRASH



AYRTON SENNA - IMOLA 1994. - TAMBURELLO CRASH