rowdyhawk10 said:coastalbison6
Look, man, I don't think you even know what you want in your own thread, which you started yourself. Initially, you opened this topic regarding holy scriptures in general (the previous title was something like "Torah-Septuagint-Vulgate-Luther Bible... all the way to the Quran") and the introductory post is here. Then, you expressed in this post a desire to focus strictly on the authenticity of the Quran, just to narrow the scope—since things were getting too broad after Steven Clark jumped in with his analyses of the Bible. I respected your wish and asked you here if you wanted me to change the thread title (I sent you a DM about it, too). You agreed here that I should update the title, so I changed it to "Is the Quran True and Authentic?", which you approved (you confirmed this via private message). So, as it stands, this thread is specifically about the Quran (for instance, how it was recorded and preserved, whether it underwent changes, its level of authenticity, etc.). But then... the discussion drifted off-topic with this post from velvetranger52, which was off-topic because he was asking "what is the Constitution of Medina." In responding to him, you steered the conversation away from the core subject (which was the authenticity of the Quran—your own rule), and began discussing historical events that have nothing to do with the primary topic. I only deleted the off-topic posts because they didn't belong here; I haven't handed out any warnings, even though the conversation veered off course. Velvetranger52 pulled it off-topic with his question, and then you all followed suit by discussing the Constitution of Medina, the persecution of Jews, and other matters outside the scope of how the Quran was written, canonized, and preserved. Should we really let threads just wander aimlessly like that? I ask you. 🙄
So, I would say your protest is entirely groundless and unjustified. ☕
Still, I suppose it’s fine that you started this petition, as it gives the other users a chance to weigh in. If a significant number of them aren't happy with my management, then honestly, it might be better if I stepped down. It's exhausting trying to please everyone. On one hand, some Muslims (plus Enky, who seems just as unsure of what they want as you are) accuse me of being too strict with Muslims—while on the other hand, you and Chris Edwards claim I'm being too lenient and that I am "biased," to quote you.
If I were running the show, some of the Muslims would likely be satisfied enough to end their boycott of this forum. I just hope that whoever takes over doesn't let people start posting nonsense like: "a Muslim woman who marries a Catholic is no longer Muslim" or claiming that in the 21st century, it is somehow religiously justified "to kill gays..." which, frankly, is pure hate speech. This forum really needs to deal with that once and for all to ensure civilized progress and stop such evil. Additionally, those non-Muslims who aren't fans of my style will finally get a break from my supposed "imposition of Islam". 🙄
I won't be commenting further on this thread, though I suppose anyone interested in my replacement should feel free to reach out. 👋
If you think you're talking about me, you clearly aren't paying attention. I’m not accusing you of being biased toward some specific position; I’m saying you’re running two different sets of standards—one for your own views and another for everyone else's. You're just biased toward yourself, if that's how you want to put it.
Here you go, right below:
rowdyhawk10 said:coastalbison6
Look, man, I don't think you even know what you want in your own thread, which you started yourself. Initially, you opened this topic regarding holy scriptures in general (the previous title was something like "Torah-Septuagint-Vulgate-Luther Bible... all the way to the Quran") and the introductory post is here. Then, you expressed in this post a desire to focus strictly on the authenticity of the Quran, just to narrow the scope—since things were getting too broad after Steven Clark jumped in with his analyses of the Bible. I respected your wish and asked you here if you wanted me to change the thread title (I sent you a DM about it, too). You agreed here that I should update the title, so I changed it to "Is the Quran True and Authentic?", which you approved (you confirmed this via private message). So, as it stands, this thread is specifically about the Quran (for instance, how it was recorded and preserved, whether it underwent changes, its level of authenticity, etc.). But then... the discussion drifted off-topic with this post from velvetranger52, which was off-topic because he was asking "what is the Constitution of Medina." In responding to him, you steered the conversation away from the core subject (which was the authenticity of the Quran—your own rule), and began discussing historical events that have nothing to do with the primary topic. I only deleted the off-topic posts because they didn't belong here; I haven't handed out any warnings, even though the conversation veered off course. Velvetranger52 pulled it off-topic with his question, and then you all followed suit by discussing the Constitution of Medina, the persecution of Jews, and other matters outside the scope of how the Quran was written, canonized, and preserved. Should we really let threads just wander aimlessly like that? I ask you. 🙄
So, I would say your protest is entirely groundless and unjustified. ☕
Still, I suppose it’s fine that you started this petition, as it gives the other users a chance to weigh in. If a significant number of them aren't happy with my management, then honestly, it might be better if I stepped down. It's exhausting trying to please everyone. On one hand, some Muslims (plus Enky, who seems just as unsure of what they want as you are) accuse me of being too strict with Muslims—while on the other hand, you and Chris Edwards claim I'm being too lenient and that I am "biased," to quote you.
If I were running the show, some of the Muslims would likely be satisfied enough to end their boycott of this forum. I just hope that whoever takes over doesn't let people start posting nonsense like: "a Muslim woman who marries a Catholic is no longer Muslim" or claiming that in the 21st century, it is somehow religiously justified "to kill gays..." which, frankly, is pure hate speech. This forum really needs to deal with that once and for all to ensure civilized progress and stop such evil. Additionally, those non-Muslims who aren't fans of my style will finally get a break from my supposed "imposition of Islam". 🙄
I won't be commenting further on this thread, though I suppose anyone interested in my replacement should feel free to reach out. 👋
So, you declare your opinion to be the absolute truth, and then suddenly, any opposing view—valid or not—isn't allowed to be heard. Typical.
Since you brought it up, let's keep this moving:
rowdyhawk10 said:coastalbison6
Look, man, I don't think you even know what you want in your own thread, which you started yourself. Initially, you opened this topic regarding holy scriptures in general (the previous title was something like "Torah-Septuagint-Vulgate-Luther Bible... all the way to the Quran") and the introductory post is here. Then, you expressed in this post a desire to focus strictly on the authenticity of the Quran, just to narrow the scope—since things were getting too broad after Steven Clark jumped in with his analyses of the Bible. I respected your wish and asked you here if you wanted me to change the thread title (I sent you a DM about it, too). You agreed here that I should update the title, so I changed it to "Is the Quran True and Authentic?", which you approved (you confirmed this via private message). So, as it stands, this thread is specifically about the Quran (for instance, how it was recorded and preserved, whether it underwent changes, its level of authenticity, etc.). But then... the discussion drifted off-topic with this post from velvetranger52, which was off-topic because he was asking "what is the Constitution of Medina." In responding to him, you steered the conversation away from the core subject (which was the authenticity of the Quran—your own rule), and began discussing historical events that have nothing to do with the primary topic. I only deleted the off-topic posts because they didn't belong here; I haven't handed out any warnings, even though the conversation veered off course. Velvetranger52 pulled it off-topic with his question, and then you all followed suit by discussing the Constitution of Medina, the persecution of Jews, and other matters outside the scope of how the Quran was written, canonized, and preserved. Should we really let threads just wander aimlessly like that? I ask you. 🙄
So, I would say your protest is entirely groundless and unjustified. ☕
Still, I suppose it’s fine that you started this petition, as it gives the other users a chance to weigh in. If a significant number of them aren't happy with my management, then honestly, it might be better if I stepped down. It's exhausting trying to please everyone. On one hand, some Muslims (plus Enky, who seems just as unsure of what they want as you are) accuse me of being too strict with Muslims—while on the other hand, you and Chris Edwards claim I'm being too lenient and that I am "biased," to quote you.
If I were running the show, some of the Muslims would likely be satisfied enough to end their boycott of this forum. I just hope that whoever takes over doesn't let people start posting nonsense like: "a Muslim woman who marries a Catholic is no longer Muslim" or claiming that in the 21st century, it is somehow religiously justified "to kill gays..." which, frankly, is pure hate speech. This forum really needs to deal with that once and for all to ensure civilized progress and stop such evil. Additionally, those non-Muslims who aren't fans of my style will finally get a break from my supposed "imposition of Islam". 🙄
I won't be commenting further on this thread, though I suppose anyone interested in my replacement should feel free to reach out. 👋
So, what gives? Why on earth was that kind of language from unknown perfectly tolerated and acceptable when the topic was about Islam? 🙄
rowdyhawk10 said:coastalbison6
Look, man, I don't think you even know what you want in your own thread, which you started yourself. Initially, you opened this topic regarding holy scriptures in general (the previous title was something like "Torah-Septuagint-Vulgate-Luther Bible... all the way to the Quran") and the introductory post is here. Then, you expressed in this post a desire to focus strictly on the authenticity of the Quran, just to narrow the scope—since things were getting too broad after Steven Clark jumped in with his analyses of the Bible. I respected your wish and asked you here if you wanted me to change the thread title (I sent you a DM about it, too). You agreed here that I should update the title, so I changed it to "Is the Quran True and Authentic?", which you approved (you confirmed this via private message). So, as it stands, this thread is specifically about the Quran (for instance, how it was recorded and preserved, whether it underwent changes, its level of authenticity, etc.). But then... the discussion drifted off-topic with this post from velvetranger52, which was off-topic because he was asking "what is the Constitution of Medina." In responding to him, you steered the conversation away from the core subject (which was the authenticity of the Quran—your own rule), and began discussing historical events that have nothing to do with the primary topic. I only deleted the off-topic posts because they didn't belong here; I haven't handed out any warnings, even though the conversation veered off course. Velvetranger52 pulled it off-topic with his question, and then you all followed suit by discussing the Constitution of Medina, the persecution of Jews, and other matters outside the scope of how the Quran was written, canonized, and preserved. Should we really let threads just wander aimlessly like that? I ask you. 🙄
So, I would say your protest is entirely groundless and unjustified. ☕
Still, I suppose it’s fine that you started this petition, as it gives the other users a chance to weigh in. If a significant number of them aren't happy with my management, then honestly, it might be better if I stepped down. It's exhausting trying to please everyone. On one hand, some Muslims (plus Enky, who seems just as unsure of what they want as you are) accuse me of being too strict with Muslims—while on the other hand, you and Chris Edwards claim I'm being too lenient and that I am "biased," to quote you.
If I were running the show, some of the Muslims would likely be satisfied enough to end their boycott of this forum. I just hope that whoever takes over doesn't let people start posting nonsense like: "a Muslim woman who marries a Catholic is no longer Muslim" or claiming that in the 21st century, it is somehow religiously justified "to kill gays..." which, frankly, is pure hate speech. This forum really needs to deal with that once and for all to ensure civilized progress and stop such evil. Additionally, those non-Muslims who aren't fans of my style will finally get a break from my supposed "imposition of Islam". 🙄
I won't be commenting further on this thread, though I suppose anyone interested in my replacement should feel free to reach out. 👋
It’s not necessarily about changing shifts, but we definitely need to clean this mess up. To start with, if you actually answered my question... ☕