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Petition to remove Shady in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Nicholas Gomez4 said:And why exactly do you care? 😉

You doubting the outcome? 😂

Look, let me throw a comment in here—I'm not exactly filing official grievances, and neither are the rest of you. I just kept my mouth shut back then, waiting for the storm to pass. 😁 Of course, this is about that whole blowout you had with the Muslim crowd on the forum regarding those enrollments for Islam 114.
rowdyhawk10, you’re pretty much everywhere on this board lately—always talking about this stuff. You remember our deal, though? We all agreed to chip in and try to represent mainstream Islam and Muslims here—you know, keep things looking as good as possible.
I won't go as far as saying you stand out from every single person on this forum—that would be a stretch—but you definitely aren't like the majority. I also wouldn't say your views are drastically or irreconcilably different from what most people here think; in a different setting, your take might actually fly. But...
Man, you aren't just hanging out on the forums—you're running the show as a mod too. And lately—it feels like—you’ve been leaning pretty hard on those moderator powers. Forcing your own views on everyone else. Like the mainstream crowd—and all that other stuff. Intense. You're using it.
People can't handle it. Honestly, it bugs me too—which is why I’ve told you this more than a few times, sometimes getting pretty heated and using some choice words to say it.

Believe me, I've been there. Incompatible. Look, I’ve been watching you—watching how you move, the way you pivot, and exactly which posts you go out of your way to scrub. It’s pretty obvious now. You’re under this delusion that you’re on some grand "mission" here on this forum—like your little ideological victory actually matters for something.

Look, man, that emotion has you totally blocked—it’s completely warped your perspective. You see it happening, right? All the old-timers are slowly drifting away from this place, yet you won't even lift a finger. It's because you're so dead-set on being "right" that you can't see anything else. Even if you actually are right, it doesn't matter—it’s paralyzing you spiritually. At this point, you're just losing out big time. A while back, steeleagle2 sent you this exact same food for thought, but instead of actually processing it, you just banned him. What the hell blinded you like that?

So, this poll... what’s even the point? What are you actually trying to achieve here? At some point, you just have to stop fighting it—when are you finally going to accept that the majority wins?

Look, you either step down from moderation and actually participate like a normal human being, or you just stay a mod and stop breathing down everyone's necks while they're trying to write. Pick one.

That’s all I got for you—peace out. And hey, don't go overthinking this post or taking it the wrong way.

I can't believe I actually agree with you for once, but this is exactly what I was complaining about in that other thread regarding rowdyhawk10. He’s completely incapable of separating his identity as a regular user from his role as a moderator. Being a mod doesn't give him the right to reshape this entire site to fit his specific whims. He just refuses to get it. That makes him an absolutely terrible moderator.
Petition to remove Shady in Feedback & Suggestions ·
rowdyhawk10 said:coastalbison6
Look, man, I don't think you even know what you want in your own thread, which you started yourself. Initially, you opened this topic regarding holy scriptures in general (the previous title was something like "Torah-Septuagint-Vulgate-Luther Bible... all the way to the Quran") and the introductory post is here. Then, you expressed in this post a desire to focus strictly on the authenticity of the Quran, just to narrow the scope—since things were getting too broad after Steven Clark jumped in with his analyses of the Bible. I respected your wish and asked you here if you wanted me to change the thread title (I sent you a DM about it, too). You agreed here that I should update the title, so I changed it to "Is the Quran True and Authentic?", which you approved (you confirmed this via private message). So, as it stands, this thread is specifically about the Quran (for instance, how it was recorded and preserved, whether it underwent changes, its level of authenticity, etc.). But then... the discussion drifted off-topic with this post from velvetranger52, which was off-topic because he was asking "what is the Constitution of Medina." In responding to him, you steered the conversation away from the core subject (which was the authenticity of the Quran—your own rule), and began discussing historical events that have nothing to do with the primary topic. I only deleted the off-topic posts because they didn't belong here; I haven't handed out any warnings, even though the conversation veered off course. Velvetranger52 pulled it off-topic with his question, and then you all followed suit by discussing the Constitution of Medina, the persecution of Jews, and other matters outside the scope of how the Quran was written, canonized, and preserved. Should we really let threads just wander aimlessly like that? I ask you. 🙄

So, I would say your protest is entirely groundless and unjustified. ☕

Still, I suppose it’s fine that you started this petition, as it gives the other users a chance to weigh in. If a significant number of them aren't happy with my management, then honestly, it might be better if I stepped down. It's exhausting trying to please everyone. On one hand, some Muslims (plus Enky, who seems just as unsure of what they want as you are) accuse me of being too strict with Muslims—while on the other hand, you and Chris Edwards claim I'm being too lenient and that I am "biased," to quote you.

If I were running the show, some of the Muslims would likely be satisfied enough to end their boycott of this forum. I just hope that whoever takes over doesn't let people start posting nonsense like: "a Muslim woman who marries a Catholic is no longer Muslim" or claiming that in the 21st century, it is somehow religiously justified "to kill gays..." which, frankly, is pure hate speech. This forum really needs to deal with that once and for all to ensure civilized progress and stop such evil. Additionally, those non-Muslims who aren't fans of my style will finally get a break from my supposed "imposition of Islam". 🙄

I won't be commenting further on this thread, though I suppose anyone interested in my replacement should feel free to reach out. 👋

If you think you're talking about me, you clearly aren't paying attention. I’m not accusing you of being biased toward some specific position; I’m saying you’re running two different sets of standards—one for your own views and another for everyone else's. You're just biased toward yourself, if that's how you want to put it.

Here you go, right below:
rowdyhawk10 said:coastalbison6
Look, man, I don't think you even know what you want in your own thread, which you started yourself. Initially, you opened this topic regarding holy scriptures in general (the previous title was something like "Torah-Septuagint-Vulgate-Luther Bible... all the way to the Quran") and the introductory post is here. Then, you expressed in this post a desire to focus strictly on the authenticity of the Quran, just to narrow the scope—since things were getting too broad after Steven Clark jumped in with his analyses of the Bible. I respected your wish and asked you here if you wanted me to change the thread title (I sent you a DM about it, too). You agreed here that I should update the title, so I changed it to "Is the Quran True and Authentic?", which you approved (you confirmed this via private message). So, as it stands, this thread is specifically about the Quran (for instance, how it was recorded and preserved, whether it underwent changes, its level of authenticity, etc.). But then... the discussion drifted off-topic with this post from velvetranger52, which was off-topic because he was asking "what is the Constitution of Medina." In responding to him, you steered the conversation away from the core subject (which was the authenticity of the Quran—your own rule), and began discussing historical events that have nothing to do with the primary topic. I only deleted the off-topic posts because they didn't belong here; I haven't handed out any warnings, even though the conversation veered off course. Velvetranger52 pulled it off-topic with his question, and then you all followed suit by discussing the Constitution of Medina, the persecution of Jews, and other matters outside the scope of how the Quran was written, canonized, and preserved. Should we really let threads just wander aimlessly like that? I ask you. 🙄

So, I would say your protest is entirely groundless and unjustified. ☕

Still, I suppose it’s fine that you started this petition, as it gives the other users a chance to weigh in. If a significant number of them aren't happy with my management, then honestly, it might be better if I stepped down. It's exhausting trying to please everyone. On one hand, some Muslims (plus Enky, who seems just as unsure of what they want as you are) accuse me of being too strict with Muslims—while on the other hand, you and Chris Edwards claim I'm being too lenient and that I am "biased," to quote you.

If I were running the show, some of the Muslims would likely be satisfied enough to end their boycott of this forum. I just hope that whoever takes over doesn't let people start posting nonsense like: "a Muslim woman who marries a Catholic is no longer Muslim" or claiming that in the 21st century, it is somehow religiously justified "to kill gays..." which, frankly, is pure hate speech. This forum really needs to deal with that once and for all to ensure civilized progress and stop such evil. Additionally, those non-Muslims who aren't fans of my style will finally get a break from my supposed "imposition of Islam". 🙄

I won't be commenting further on this thread, though I suppose anyone interested in my replacement should feel free to reach out. 👋

So, you declare your opinion to be the absolute truth, and then suddenly, any opposing view—valid or not—isn't allowed to be heard. Typical.

Since you brought it up, let's keep this moving:
rowdyhawk10 said:coastalbison6
Look, man, I don't think you even know what you want in your own thread, which you started yourself. Initially, you opened this topic regarding holy scriptures in general (the previous title was something like "Torah-Septuagint-Vulgate-Luther Bible... all the way to the Quran") and the introductory post is here. Then, you expressed in this post a desire to focus strictly on the authenticity of the Quran, just to narrow the scope—since things were getting too broad after Steven Clark jumped in with his analyses of the Bible. I respected your wish and asked you here if you wanted me to change the thread title (I sent you a DM about it, too). You agreed here that I should update the title, so I changed it to "Is the Quran True and Authentic?", which you approved (you confirmed this via private message). So, as it stands, this thread is specifically about the Quran (for instance, how it was recorded and preserved, whether it underwent changes, its level of authenticity, etc.). But then... the discussion drifted off-topic with this post from velvetranger52, which was off-topic because he was asking "what is the Constitution of Medina." In responding to him, you steered the conversation away from the core subject (which was the authenticity of the Quran—your own rule), and began discussing historical events that have nothing to do with the primary topic. I only deleted the off-topic posts because they didn't belong here; I haven't handed out any warnings, even though the conversation veered off course. Velvetranger52 pulled it off-topic with his question, and then you all followed suit by discussing the Constitution of Medina, the persecution of Jews, and other matters outside the scope of how the Quran was written, canonized, and preserved. Should we really let threads just wander aimlessly like that? I ask you. 🙄

So, I would say your protest is entirely groundless and unjustified. ☕

Still, I suppose it’s fine that you started this petition, as it gives the other users a chance to weigh in. If a significant number of them aren't happy with my management, then honestly, it might be better if I stepped down. It's exhausting trying to please everyone. On one hand, some Muslims (plus Enky, who seems just as unsure of what they want as you are) accuse me of being too strict with Muslims—while on the other hand, you and Chris Edwards claim I'm being too lenient and that I am "biased," to quote you.

If I were running the show, some of the Muslims would likely be satisfied enough to end their boycott of this forum. I just hope that whoever takes over doesn't let people start posting nonsense like: "a Muslim woman who marries a Catholic is no longer Muslim" or claiming that in the 21st century, it is somehow religiously justified "to kill gays..." which, frankly, is pure hate speech. This forum really needs to deal with that once and for all to ensure civilized progress and stop such evil. Additionally, those non-Muslims who aren't fans of my style will finally get a break from my supposed "imposition of Islam". 🙄

I won't be commenting further on this thread, though I suppose anyone interested in my replacement should feel free to reach out. 👋

So, what gives? Why on earth was that kind of language from unknown perfectly tolerated and acceptable when the topic was about Islam? 🙄

rowdyhawk10 said:coastalbison6
Look, man, I don't think you even know what you want in your own thread, which you started yourself. Initially, you opened this topic regarding holy scriptures in general (the previous title was something like "Torah-Septuagint-Vulgate-Luther Bible... all the way to the Quran") and the introductory post is here. Then, you expressed in this post a desire to focus strictly on the authenticity of the Quran, just to narrow the scope—since things were getting too broad after Steven Clark jumped in with his analyses of the Bible. I respected your wish and asked you here if you wanted me to change the thread title (I sent you a DM about it, too). You agreed here that I should update the title, so I changed it to "Is the Quran True and Authentic?", which you approved (you confirmed this via private message). So, as it stands, this thread is specifically about the Quran (for instance, how it was recorded and preserved, whether it underwent changes, its level of authenticity, etc.). But then... the discussion drifted off-topic with this post from velvetranger52, which was off-topic because he was asking "what is the Constitution of Medina." In responding to him, you steered the conversation away from the core subject (which was the authenticity of the Quran—your own rule), and began discussing historical events that have nothing to do with the primary topic. I only deleted the off-topic posts because they didn't belong here; I haven't handed out any warnings, even though the conversation veered off course. Velvetranger52 pulled it off-topic with his question, and then you all followed suit by discussing the Constitution of Medina, the persecution of Jews, and other matters outside the scope of how the Quran was written, canonized, and preserved. Should we really let threads just wander aimlessly like that? I ask you. 🙄

So, I would say your protest is entirely groundless and unjustified. ☕

Still, I suppose it’s fine that you started this petition, as it gives the other users a chance to weigh in. If a significant number of them aren't happy with my management, then honestly, it might be better if I stepped down. It's exhausting trying to please everyone. On one hand, some Muslims (plus Enky, who seems just as unsure of what they want as you are) accuse me of being too strict with Muslims—while on the other hand, you and Chris Edwards claim I'm being too lenient and that I am "biased," to quote you.

If I were running the show, some of the Muslims would likely be satisfied enough to end their boycott of this forum. I just hope that whoever takes over doesn't let people start posting nonsense like: "a Muslim woman who marries a Catholic is no longer Muslim" or claiming that in the 21st century, it is somehow religiously justified "to kill gays..." which, frankly, is pure hate speech. This forum really needs to deal with that once and for all to ensure civilized progress and stop such evil. Additionally, those non-Muslims who aren't fans of my style will finally get a break from my supposed "imposition of Islam". 🙄

I won't be commenting further on this thread, though I suppose anyone interested in my replacement should feel free to reach out. 👋

It’s not necessarily about changing shifts, but we definitely need to clean this mess up. To start with, if you actually answered my question... ☕