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Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
Demographics. This white plague is absolutely ravaging America
Ever since 1991, we’ve watched the population just... rapidly wither away, mostly because all the young people are packing their bags and fleeing the country...
If things don't change, America is going to shrink to half its current size, leaving behind nothing but an aging, helpless, starving shell of a nation!
The disaster facing our people can only be stopped—we can only head toward actual prosperity—if the leadership here in America manages to forge a rock-solid, all-encompassing Union with the Canadians and the Muslims of Canada. ☕
Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
Nicholas Martinez47 said:It seems to me that when people can't wrap their heads around actual technical terminology, they just resort to mocking others to make themselves feel better, but hey, that's your prerogative, I guess!
I've already pointed out that CIA - Central Intelligence Agency - Facebook
is easily one of the most prominent and powerful organizations on the planet, especially when you look at their professional references, their operational capacity, and how reliable their demographic data is, since they process data for every single country on Earth and remain a go-to resource in both academic and mainstream circles...
If you have a better source, by all means, lay it on me!

In the CIA via Facebook, they gather up the latest official demographic stats from the Census Bureau of every nation in the world, perform all the heavy mathematical and statistical processing on that info, and then publish those demographic parameters in digital publications or formal books...
Anyone can go verify this on the website itself if they actually bother to look.

To have a truly credible, merit-based conversation about demographics, you need actual professional expertise in the field, but so far, I haven't run into anyone capable of that level of discussion, and that includes you...

A few of you just spend your time dumping demographic numbers onto this forum, pulled straight from Census Bureau books or unreliable websites, and you reduce everything down to mere birth rates and fertility levels without any real analysis or meaningful conclusions...
I asked this before, and I'll ask you again: what is the actual mathematical correlation between fertility rates and the number of live births—is there even a real connection?
What is the projected population of Mexico for the year 2064? And while you're at it, show me the standard deviation for those results!


=Betty Cruz2Alright, come on then, let's actually see what you've put down on paper...

Look, you can get to those population numbers by applying either a linear or an exponential function, but you’ve just mashed everything together into this absolute mess of a formula... honestly, it's just a total jumble. Fine, if you're going to be like that, at least have the decency to explain what these famous constants are actually supposed to represent... a I can't even begin to process this... I mean, really think about what we're looking at here because honestly, it feels like everything is just spinning out of control lately, and I’m sitting here trying to make sense of it all while everyone else is just shouting into the void... it’s exhausting, truly... I don't even know where to start with this because honestly, it feels like we're just spinning our wheels at this point... you look at the data coming out of the U.S. Census Bureau and you see these massive shifts happening right before our eyes, but nobody seems to be actually talking about the implications of it all, you know? It’s like everyone is too busy arguing over nothing while the actual foundation of the country is shifting under our feet... I was reading this thread earlier where Nicholas Martinez47 was trying to make sense of the latest numbers, and while he's got some points, it just feels like we're missing the forest for the trees... it's exhausting really, just watching the same patterns repeat over and over again without any real accountability from the big institutions... anyway, I'm just rambling now, but it stays on my mind... So, how exactly do you actually get there, though? I mean, give me the real specifics, not just some vague direction...
Did you just "copy-paste" that straight from some academic journal or a professional website or what... because it sounds way too polished for this conversation...😁

So, I was diving down this rabbit hole regarding population growth trends over specific intervals—you know, how we actually calculate those numbers—and specifically looking at how modern statistical models try to predict exactly how many people are out there at any given moment, like say, on a random Tuesday, September 29th, 2014... It’s honestly wild when you get into the weeds of contemporary statistical forecasting and how the U.S. Census Bureau handles these projections, because it's not just some simple math problem, it's this whole massive, complex web of data points and shifting variables that tries to pin down a single moment in time... which, if you think about it, is almost impossible to be perfectly accurate, but they still try... anyway, where was I... right, the methodology behind these temporal calculations...
That’s only possible through an exponential equation... or maybe I'm just overthinking the whole thing, but honestly, when you really sit down and look at how these numbers scale, it's clearly nothing else but an exponential equation...
And when you look at how it all lays out on a graph, it’s basically just this complex curve winding its way across the plane... which honestly makes you realize how much more complicated things get once you move beyond simple lines...

It’s just not going to work with a linear function... honestly, you can try to force it all you want, but you're just spinning your wheels at that point because the math simply won't line up, no matter how much you massage the variables or hope for a miracle... it's just fundamentally impossible to map it out that way...So, how does this all actually work...? I mean, really...
Look, you’re sitting there typing away like it’s some simple math problem, but honestly... it just goes to show you clearly haven't grasped how insanely complex it actually is to define demographic shifts or population trends within any given territory or nation... it's not just plugging numbers into a calculator, you know... it's layers upon layers of variables that most people just gloss over because they don't want to do the heavy lifting...
You just can't get a straight answer when you try to map out how the population in a place like Mexico is actually going to shift from, say, 2001 all the way through 2064... it’s impossible to represent that kind of trajectory accurately without getting lost in the weeds...
Look, sure, maybe some folks might let it slide or find a way to justify it, but from any actual professional standpoint? It’s completely unacceptable... honestly, it just gets tossed straight into the trash where it belongs...

So you're asking what these constants actually represent, huh... I mean, honestly, if you really have to ask that, we might be in for a long night because once you start pulling on that thread, the whole thing just unravels into this massive, complicated mess of data and theory... it’s like trying to map out every single street in Chicago without a GPS, you know? You think you've got a handle on the basics, then suddenly you're staring at these numbers that supposedly hold everything together, acting as these fixed points in a world that feels anything but fixed... it's exhausting just thinking about how much weight these little figures carry in the grand scheme of things... I can't even begin to process this... I mean, really think about what we're dealing with here because it's just one thing after another with these endless, circular arguments that go absolutely nowhere... It’s like everyone is just shouting into the void without actually listening to a single word being said, and honestly, it makes me want to just throw my laptop out the window and walk away from the whole mess... But then again, I always say that, don't I? It's just exhausting... So, how exactly do you even get over there...? I mean, seriously, what’s the actual route...
Honestly, even asking the question feels like a waste of breath because we all know it’s just a constant at this point... there's really no other way to look at it... aI mean, honestly, where do we even start with this... it’s just constant, isn't it? Just one thing after another, like you can't catch a break for even a second before the next wave hits... I was sitting there thinking about how everything just seems to spiral if you let it, and then I realized that's basically the whole story of life lately... just endless cycles of stuff happening without any real sense of direction or purpose, and sometimes I feel like I'm just shouting into a void, hoping someone actually hears what I'm trying to say, but maybe they don't, or maybe they just don't care... it's exhausting, really... just totally exhausting...
It’s just one constant... that one thing you can always count on, isn't it? No matter how much everything else shifts around us, no matter how chaotic the world gets or how many times we feel like the ground is sliding right out from under our feet, there’s always that one underlying constant staring us in the face... it's almost exhausting if you think about it too long, really... but then again, maybe that's the only thing keeping us sane in this madness... I don't even know where to start with this one because honestly, it feels like we’re just spinning our wheels at this point... you look at the data coming out of the U.S. Census Bureau and it’s like everyone is just ignoring the obvious patterns staring them right in the face, and I'm sitting here wondering if anyone else is actually paying attention or if we've all just collectively decided to look the other direction while things spiral... it's exhausting, really...I mean, honestly, if we’re talking about constants... it's just one of those things that feels like it should be simple, right? Like, you set it, it stays, end of story. But then you start digging into how everything actually functions under the hood in these massive American tech infrastructures, and suddenly nothing is as fixed as it seems... It’s like trying to pin down a single truth when the whole system is shifting beneath your feet, and you just find yourself spiraling into these endless loops of "what if" while everyone else is just moving along like nothing happened... anyway, where was I...
They’re all just preordained... everything is already set in stone before we even get a chance to breathe...

So you're asking how people actually get to them? Honestly, if you're looking for directions, it’s not exactly a straight shot and you really have to plan ahead because the route can be such a mess depending on what kind of traffic you run into... turns out it's way more complicated than just hopping on a highway and calling it a day...

I don't even know where to start with this one... it’s just one of those things that makes you want to throw your hands up in the air and walk away from the keyboard entirely... because honestly, how do we even get to this point? It feels like every time we try to have a rational conversation about what's actually happening on the ground, someone jumps in with some half-baked theory or a complete fabrication that flies in the face of everything we know to be true... and it’s exhausting, truly exhausting... I mean, you look at the data coming out of the U.S. Census Bureau and it tells one story, but then you listen to the noise online and it’s a completely different world, a total circus... and I’m sitting here wondering if anyone is actually paying attention to the facts anymore or if we've all just collectively decided to embrace the chaos... it’s just ridiculous, really...
I’m out here trying to figure out how to define my constants... just staring at the screen and wondering why everything feels so complicated lately... it's like you think you have a handle on the variables, you think you know what stays steady, but then life happens and suddenly nothing is constant anymore... anyway, where was I... oh yeah, defining these constants... I can't even begin to process this... just a single letter? Is this some kind of test, or did someone just accidentally sit on their keyboard while trying to navigate through all these endless threads... I mean, seriously, if we're going to have a discussion here, there has to be something more than just a lonely little "a" floating in the digital void... it’s just baffling how much energy people put into absolutely nothing sometimes... anyway... I mean, seriously... I’m constantly... just constant... I can't believe I'm even typing this out right now because honestly, what is there left to say about it... it just feels like we're all circling the same drain over and over again, isn't it? You look at the news, you check the latest data from the U.S. Census Bureau, and you realize that nothing actually changes, it’s just different names on the same old broken systems... and people keep acting like it's some massive revelation when it's really just the same cycle repeating itself indefinitely... it’s exhausting, truly... Look, we’re stepping right into the territory of intellectual property laws here, and frankly, this isn't something meant for public distribution... especially not over on PFP...

Betty Cruz2;
If you ever bother to dig through actual professional academic journals written by serious demographers, you can easily see just how much—or rather, how little—the CIA is actually worth when it comes to reliable demographic data... I mean, honestly, I haven't stumbled upon a single legitimate professional text focusing on demographics that cites the CIA as a primary reference, and there is a very good, very obvious reason for that...

You’re never going to wrap your head around this one, because you’ve got it all wrong—the CIA and their World Factbook aren't actually the primary source for population data like you seem to think they are... I mean, obviously, if you want the real, foundational demographic numbers, you have to look at the official government agencies, like the U.S. Census Bureau, which is what actually handles the census data for any given country... it just doesn't work the way you're imagining it does...
So, you see, the CIA takes all that raw data and runs it through these intense statistical-mathematical models to crunch the numbers... they basically distill everything down into core parameters about any specific population, like exactly how many people are living in a certain area at any given moment, whether the population is actually growing or just cratering, fertility rates, and all that other stuff too... it’s all just layers upon layers of processing to make sense of the chaos...
It’s the exact same thing other professional institutions are doing, really... you can actually compare the results and verify if they’re reliable or not, provided you know where to look...
I feel like I’ve already laid this all out before, so I really don't get why it isn't clicking for everyone yet... what exactly is the hold-up?!

Betty Cruz2;
So, when you're looking at how we actually calculate the fertility rate, it’s not just some random number pulled out of thin air... you have to look at the specific fertility rates of every single individual cohort of women within that childbearing age range and add them all up. It's basically a breakdown of the specific fertility rate for one particular age group—which is just the total number of live births from women in that specific age bracket divided by the total number of women in that same group... it's all about those ratios, really...
If there’s anything else on your mind, seriously, just go ahead and ask... I'm here...😁

Honestly, calculating fertility rates isn't even a specialized skill... I mean, really, you don't need some PhD or a high-level degree to wrap your head around it, it’s stuff that feels like it should be taught to anyone who barely finished second grade in elementary school... it's just basic math at that point, nothing more, nothing less...
Look, I’m just going to say it because someone has to... that whole algorithm you used to calculate the fertility rate in your first paragraph? It's completely off base, and honestly, if you keep running numbers like that, you’re just going to end up with totally useless results...
You really have to apply the general theory of equalization if you want to actually land on the right results... otherwise, you're just spinning your wheels for nothing...

Betty Cruz2;
Wait, what? Are we really just starting like this? Just one word? I feel like I've been sitting here waiting for the actual conversation to kick off while everyone else is already halfway through their coffee... seriously... what are we even talking about here? Is there a point to this or are we just staring at each other in silence? Because if we're going to do this, let's actually get into it... I'm ready when you are...
Standard deviation? Seriously? Do you even have a clue what that term actually represents in a real-world context... or are we just throwing around math jargon to sound important?😕

It’s basically impossible to find any statistical analysis these days that doesn't end up being dragged into this whole mess... it just goes on and on... Standard deviation... you know, people always throw that term around like they actually understand what it means in the real world, but most folks just see a number on a spreadsheet and move on without a second thought... it’s all about how much things are actually deviating from the average, right? Like, if you're looking at housing prices in a place like Chicago versus somewhere more predictable, that spread tells you everything you need to know about the volatility you're walking into... it's that gap between the "average" experience and the actual reality of what's happening on the ground, and honestly, if you don't account for that variance, you're basically flying blind through a storm... it's the difference between a steady climb and a total rollercoaster ride... turns out, the math matters way more than the simple mean ever will...It’s especially true when you look at those demographic analyses and budget projections... I mean, if someone doesn't actually grasp those fundamentals, then they don't know anything about demographics or budgeting at all, period...
Are you actually familiar with... I mean, does this even ring a bell for you? Or am I just shouting into the void here... So, I was sitting around thinking about Gauss’s theory of minimal surfaces, and honestly, it just gets me fired up because people don't realize how much math actually dictates the physical world we walk around in every single day... you know what I mean? It's all there, hidden in the curves and the tension of everything, like how a soap film stretches itself out perfectly between two wire loops to find that absolute path of least resistance, which is basically just pure, unadulterated geometry trying to be efficient... and it's funny because you think you're just looking at a bubble or some weird shape in an architecture textbook, but it's really this profound mathematical truth staring you right in the face, though most people are too busy scrolling through Facebook or whatever to notice the elegance of a minimal surface... it's just one of those things where if you stop and actually stare at the logic of it, the whole universe starts to feel a little more structured, yet somehow more chaotic at the same time... anyway, where was I going with this... oh yeah, the sheer beauty of it... So, I was sitting around thinking about all that heavy-duty statistical theory we use when we're trying to crunch the numbers on demographic parameters... you know, those endless data sets that make your head spin... and it really got me wondering about the whole squared error deviation thing. It’s one of those foundational concepts, right? Like, if you're looking at how much a specific data point drifts from the mean—especially when you're dealing with massive population shifts or growth trends—you have to account for that variance if you want any kind of accuracy... otherwise, the whole model just falls apart under its own weight... it's just one of those things that seems simple until you're staring at a spreadsheet from the U.S. Census Bureau and realize how much a single outlier can mess everything up... anyway, what's the consensus on using squared error deviation specifically for calculating those demographic metrics? Is it still the gold standard for minimizing bias in these kinds of models, or are we moving toward something more sophisticated...

Without actually knowing what you're talking about...
Statistical theories... honestly, where do you even start with all that math? It’s just one endless rabbit hole of numbers and assumptions that never quite seem to line up with what we actually see happening in the real world...
So, I was sitting around thinking about all those theories regarding error equalization... you know, how everything is supposed to balance out perfectly but somehow never quite does in reality... it’s like when you’re looking at data from the U.S. Census Bureau and you realize that despite all the complex math and the fancy models they use to smooth things over, there's always this underlying friction, this constant drift that just refuses to align with the theoretical ideal... it makes you wonder if we're even measuring what we think we're measuring, or if we're just endlessly chasing our own tails trying to correct for deviations that are baked right into the system from the start... it's honestly exhausting to even contemplate how much of our "certainty" is just clever accounting for mistakes we haven't even identified yet...
Set theory... man, where do you even begin with that whole rabbit hole? It’s one of those things that sounds perfectly simple on the surface, just grouping stuff together, right? But then you start peeling back the layers and suddenly you're staring into the abyss of mathematical logic, questioning the very fabric of how we define "existence" itself... it gets heavy, really heavy... and honestly, if you haven't spent a late night staring at a chalkboard wondering if infinity actually behaves the way we think it does, have you even lived? It's all just endless loops and abstractions that make your head spin if you look too closely...
So, I was sitting there, just staring at my screen, thinking about all those dense theories regarding finite vector spaces and linear operators... you know, the kind of stuff that makes your brain feel like it’s being squeezed through a straw... and honestly, it’s just one of those things where you start looking at a simple equation and suddenly you're spiraling down a rabbit hole of abstract dimensions and transformations that don't seem to have any end in sight... it's all so incredibly dense and technical, and sometimes I wonder if anyone actually enjoys wrestling with these concepts or if we're all just collectively pretending to understand the sheer complexity of it all... anyway, where was I... right, the math... it just goes on forever...
More algebra, more math... honestly, I feel like I’m drowning in equations lately...

I mean, when you really sit down and start peeling back the layers on this, which scientific disciplines actually hold that top-tier, heavy-hitting status... you know, the ones that truly move the needle for humanity? It’s such a massive, sprawling question that honestly makes my head spin just thinking about the sheer scale of it all... because everything feels connected if you look long enough, but there are definitely those foundational pillars that everything else just builds upon, like the bedrock of a skyscraper in Chicago or something... you have the hard sciences, obviously, physics and chemistry, where the laws are set in stone and you can't just argue with gravity or molecular bonds, no matter how much you want to... and then you get into the deep, complex realms of biology and neuroscience, which is basically trying to decode the most complicated machine ever built—the human brain—and let me tell you, we are barely scratching the surface of that mystery... it's wild... and don't even get me started on mathematics, which is like the universal language written into the very fabric of the cosmos itself, without which none of the other stuff would even make sense... but then you have to wonder if the social sciences, like psychology or economics, carry the same kind of weight, even if they deal with the messy, unpredictable nature of people instead of predictable particles... it's a rabbit hole that never ends...
You honestly can't even begin to talk about positive demographic trends or budget projections and their actual outcomes when you look at the reality on the ground... it’s all just complete nonsense if you ask me... because the numbers being thrown around don't actually reflect what's happening with the people or the economy... everything feels disconnected from the truth...

You didn't actually answer the questions I asked...

So, I’ve been sitting here staring at the ceiling, wondering about the actual math behind all this... like, what is the real statistical link between fertility rates and the number of live births out there? Is there even a concrete connection, or is it all just messy numbers floating around in the void? I mean, you look at the data from the U.S. Census Bureau and you start to see these patterns, but then you wonder if the correlation is actually solid or if we're just overcomplicating the whole thing... it makes you think about how much of it is just pure probability versus actual biological trends... anyway, does anyone actually have a grasp on the formula here? Or are we all just guessing?

So, I was sitting around thinking about the future today—you know how it goes, just staring at the ceiling and wondering where everything is headed—and it got me thinking about those long-term projections... like, what is the actual estimate for the population of Mexico by the year 2064? It’s one of those things that feels both incredibly far away and like it's going to happen right in front of our eyes, especially when you look at how much everything shifts over a few decades... honestly, it's hard to pin down because everyone has their own theory, but if you look at the trends... well, who knows exactly where we'll be in forty years...
So, if you really want to get down into the weeds of it, you’ve gotta show exactly how much that standard deviation is actually swinging... because without seeing that spread, you're basically just flying blind through the data...

Look, if this is all too much for you to handle or if you just don't have the bandwidth right now, honestly, just say so... it’s fine, really... just let me know, okay?No worries at all... it's really not an issue...!
Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
Nicholas Martinez47 said:You’re seriously misreading the situation with the CIA, or maybe you just don't have a deep enough grasp on how the whole demographic puzzle actually fits together... it’s much more complicated than that, really...

And one more thing... don't go trying to teach a fish how to swim! Seriously, why do people always feel the need to micromanage things that are already working perfectly fine... it's just exhausting...
Just looking at how this is written, you can immediately tell exactly how much expertise the author actually has when it comes to the field of demography... or lack thereof...

So, I was looking through some data from the CIA—you know, the guys over at the Central Intelligence Agency—specifically digging through the World Factbook, and man, it really makes you stop and think about how much information is actually floating around out there if you know where to look... It’s wild how they compile all this stuff, just massive amounts of intelligence laid out in one place, and sometimes you start wondering how much of it is the full picture versus just what they want us to see, though I guess that's just the nature of the beast when you're dealing with an agency like that... anyway, it's a lot to digest...

I mean, when you really stop to think about it, you’re looking at one of the most powerhouse agencies on the planet... I'm talking about the CIA, and honestly, their sheer technical expertise and the massive scale of what they actually pull off is just mind-blowing. They aren't just sitting around; they are deep-diving into every single country out there, processing mountains of data on everything from demographics and geography to the nitty-gritty details of local economies, road networks, transit systems, and all that other stuff too... it's just endless...
On also provides full-on geographic and political maps for every single country on the planet, covering everything from 1982 all the way up to the present day... he’s constantly updating all the data too, especially when it comes to population stats, including those specific figures through July 31, 2014, which is pretty thorough if you ask me...
You know, it’s actually wild when you think about it... people don't realize just how much weight those population figures from the CIA carry in the real world. We're talking about massive, high-stakes demographic studies and deep-dive analytical projects where that data is basically the bedrock for everything they do... it's used in all sorts of serious research and complex modeling that shapes how we understand the entire country... it's heavy stuff, really...
The data provided by the demographic estimates is actually rock solid, I mean, we're talking about figures that fall right within that sweet spot of statistical certainty... you've got your standard deviation at plus or minus one percent, which basically means we’re looking at a ninety-nine percent confidence level, so there isn't much room for doubt there...

So, when you start looking at how population growth trends actually play out over any given timeframe, you’re essentially staring down an exponential equation... it’s all based on this specific curve where the exponent variable itself is defined by a linear function, though if things get really messy and complicated, that exponent can end up being an exponential function too... it just keeps spiraling...
I mean, honestly, where do we even start with this... if you look at the sheer scale of it all, it’s just overwhelming, isn't it? You sit there staring at the numbers and you realize how little any of us actually grasp about the massive, moving machinery of the entire country... it’s like trying to count grains of sand while someone is throwing buckets of them in your face, and I can't help but feel like we're just spinning our wheels here... anyway, what was I saying... right, the math...I don't know what you're trying to get at here... just a single letter? You can't just drop an "e" and expect me to dive into some deep philosophical debate or provide a full breakdown of the current geopolitical landscape... I mean, if you're looking for a conversation, you've got to actually give me something to work with, something substantial... otherwise, we're just staring at a blank screen waiting for a spark that isn't coming... I mean, honestly, if you look at the experience level on this thing... it’s just... I don't even know where to start with how much it varies... it's all over the place...
So, I was staring at my screen earlier, just thinking about how we approach basic algebra, specifically that whole $y = ax + b$ setup... you know, where everything seems so linear and predictable on paper? It’s funny how people get tripped up when you start messing with the variables, like when someone starts asking about an exponent variable being tucked into there... which, let's be honest, completely changes the entire game from a simple straight line to some wild curve that looks more like a rollercoaster than a textbook equation... it's like one tiny little tweak to the formula and suddenly the whole logic shifts under your feet... anyway, what are we actually looking at here...?
Where on earth is it...
Wait, hold on... I was just looking at this equation, you know, y equals an exponent, and it started making my head spin because once you start diving into how variables behave when they're sitting up there in the rafters like that, everything just gets so much more complicated than people want to admit... it’s like when you think you have a handle on a simple concept, maybe something basic about how growth works in the real world, but then you realize the scale of it is totally different than what we were taught in high school math class back in Ohio... and honestly, it's kind of infuriating how often people gloss over the actual mechanics of it just to get to the answer quickly... anyway, where was I going with this... oh right, the sheer volatility of exponential functions... it's wild...
a=constant.
It’s just... you have to look at the math, right? It all comes down to this one fundamental truth where b equals a constant... and once you accept that, everything else starts to fall into place, though people love to complicate it with all these unnecessary variables and noise... if the baseline stays fixed, then the whole equation changes its entire nature, and honestly, it's frustrating how much time we waste debating things that are fundamentally unchangeable... it's like trying to argue with gravity or the way the tax code works in D.C., just a complete waste of breath when the constant is already set... anyway, I guess what I'm getting at is that if b is constant, then the rest of the logic follows a path that's already been paved, whether we like it or not...
Well, if we're talking about x being the domain of an interval... you know, that whole concept where you're basically defining the playground for your function before you even start playing... it just hits me how much math feels like trying to draw boundaries on a map when you aren't even sure where the borders end... it’s all just a set of values, right? Just a stretch of numbers sitting there waiting to be used... it’s fundamental, really, almost like setting the rules of engagement before a big debate starts... but then you get into those tricky spots where the interval isn't inclusive, and suddenly everything shifts... it's all just about knowing exactly where you stand...

Look, when you're trying to pin down those constants, $a$ and $b$, you aren't just going to find them sitting there waiting for you on some random website or tucked away in a quick Google search... it’s not that simple, really. You have to actually dig into the heavy lifting—the mathematical and statistical processing of the raw data within the specific domain you're investigating. We're talking about discrete parameters here, deep-level stuff that requires actual computation and rigorous analysis to uncover, so don't expect a shortcut or a pre-made answer to just pop up on your screen...

Honestly, that exponential equation is actually pretty straightforward to crack if you just sit down and look at it... you can solve it in like... well, it's really just a matter of getting those bases to match up first...
It only takes about five minutes, really... and honestly, you’d be grinding through this stuff during your very first semester at any decent engineering school out there—whether you're tackling civil engineering, mechanical, surveying, electrical, or even diving into IT... just basic foundational stuff they throw at you right out of the gate...

The real headache here—the absolute crux of the whole mess—is how you go about determining those constants, $a$ and $b$, and honestly, that’s where everything falls apart... it's such a specific, pinpoint issue that plagues every single serious demographic institution out there in the States...

I took a look at those institutions you linked over there, but honestly, they aren't worth my time... some of them are just straight-up pathetic in terms of the actual data they provide, though I really don't want to get into a whole thing explaining exactly why that is right now!

Betty Cruz2 said:Blah blah blah.
Don't try to sell me on these "expert" theories. I have spent more than enough time studying and solving double and triple integrals, derivatives, polynomials, exponential functions, and numerical methods.
What you are claiming about the CIA sounds like cheap advertising. Yes, the CIA provides plenty of demographic data, but that data is largely inaccurate. If you base a calculation on inaccurate data, the result might be mathematically correct, but it will still be wrong.😁
The CIA's demographic data consists almost exclusively of so-called estimates. These are often based on national statistical agency data that is several years old. Frequently (and TFR is a perfect example of this), they simply retype the exact same figure year after year.
As for my links, I don't even know what to say to you. I provide you with a mountain of links to official government statistical bureaus, and you claim they aren't relevant.
Good grief.🙄
Now, I couldn't care less about your political interests. On this topic, my primary concern is serious demography, and that is certainly not what you are providing.☕

It seems to me that when people can't wrap their heads around actual technical terminology, they just resort to mocking others to make themselves feel better, but hey, that's your prerogative, I guess!
I've already pointed out that CIA - Central Intelligence Agency - Facebook
is easily one of the most prominent and powerful organizations on the planet, especially when you look at their professional references, their operational capacity, and how reliable their demographic data is, since they process data for every single country on Earth and remain a go-to resource in both academic and mainstream circles...
If you have a better source, by all means, lay it on me!

In the CIA via Facebook, they gather up the latest official demographic stats from the Census Bureau of every nation in the world, perform all the heavy mathematical and statistical processing on that info, and then publish those demographic parameters in digital publications or formal books...
Anyone can go verify this on the website itself if they actually bother to look.

To have a truly credible, merit-based conversation about demographics, you need actual professional expertise in the field, but so far, I haven't run into anyone capable of that level of discussion, and that includes you...

A few of you just spend your time dumping demographic numbers onto this forum, pulled straight from Census Bureau books or unreliable websites, and you reduce everything down to mere birth rates and fertility levels without any real analysis or meaningful conclusions...
I asked this before, and I'll ask you again: what is the actual mathematical correlation between fertility rates and the number of live births—is there even a real connection?
What is the projected population of Mexico for the year 2064? And while you're at it, show me the standard deviation for those results!
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Betty Cruz2 said:The CIA Factbook is nothing more than a simple picture book for kids. Serious demographic websites don't rely on their data. In fact, if you mention the CIA on any forum populated by actual experts in demography, you will almost exclusively be met with ridicule. Wikipedia data is generally reliable because the contributors typically pull from official statistical organizations.
Here is a great link for you:
International Statistical Agencies
Also, here is another solid, professional site dedicated to demography:
Population Reference Bureau
For those who want everything in one place, they offer:
World Population Data Sheet 2014
Not all the data is perfect, but it is certainly better than what the CIA provides.

🙂


You’re seriously misreading the situation with the CIA, or maybe you just don't have a deep enough grasp on how the whole demographic puzzle actually fits together... it’s much more complicated than that, really...

And one more thing... don't go trying to teach a fish how to swim! Seriously, why do people always feel the need to micromanage things that are already working perfectly fine... it's just exhausting...
Just looking at how this is written, you can immediately tell exactly how much expertise the author actually has when it comes to the field of demography... or lack thereof...

So, I was looking through some data from the CIA—you know, the guys over at the Central Intelligence Agency—specifically digging through the World Factbook, and man, it really makes you stop and think about how much information is actually floating around out there if you know where to look... It’s wild how they compile all this stuff, just massive amounts of intelligence laid out in one place, and sometimes you start wondering how much of it is the full picture versus just what they want us to see, though I guess that's just the nature of the beast when you're dealing with an agency like that... anyway, it's a lot to digest...

I mean, when you really stop to think about it, you’re looking at one of the most powerhouse agencies on the planet... I'm talking about the CIA, and honestly, their sheer technical expertise and the massive scale of what they actually pull off is just mind-blowing. They aren't just sitting around; they are deep-diving into every single country out there, processing mountains of data on everything from demographics and geography to the nitty-gritty details of local economies, road networks, transit systems, and all that other stuff too... it's just endless...
On also provides full-on geographic and political maps for every single country on the planet, covering everything from 1982 all the way up to the present day... he’s constantly updating all the data too, especially when it comes to population stats, including those specific figures through July 31, 2014, which is pretty thorough if you ask me...
You know, it’s actually wild when you think about it... people don't realize just how much weight those population figures from the CIA carry in the real world. We're talking about massive, high-stakes demographic studies and deep-dive analytical projects where that data is basically the bedrock for everything they do... it's used in all sorts of serious research and complex modeling that shapes how we understand the entire country... it's heavy stuff, really...
The data provided by the demographic estimates is actually rock solid, I mean, we're talking about figures that fall right within that sweet spot of statistical certainty... you've got your standard deviation at plus or minus one percent, which basically means we’re looking at a ninety-nine percent confidence level, so there isn't much room for doubt there...

So, when you start looking at how population growth trends actually play out over any given timeframe, you’re essentially staring down an exponential equation... it’s all based on this specific curve where the exponent variable itself is defined by a linear function, though if things get really messy and complicated, that exponent can end up being an exponential function too... it just keeps spiraling...
I mean, honestly, where do we even start with this... if you look at the sheer scale of it all, it’s just overwhelming, isn't it? You sit there staring at the numbers and you realize how little any of us actually grasp about the massive, moving machinery of the entire country... it’s like trying to count grains of sand while someone is throwing buckets of them in your face, and I can't help but feel like we're just spinning our wheels here... anyway, what was I saying... right, the math...I don't know what you're trying to get at here... just a single letter? You can't just drop an "e" and expect me to dive into some deep philosophical debate or provide a full breakdown of the current geopolitical landscape... I mean, if you're looking for a conversation, you've got to actually give me something to work with, something substantial... otherwise, we're just staring at a blank screen waiting for a spark that isn't coming... I mean, honestly, if you look at the experience level on this thing... it’s just... I don't even know where to start with how much it varies... it's all over the place...
So, I was staring at my screen earlier, just thinking about how we approach basic algebra, specifically that whole $y = ax + b$ setup... you know, where everything seems so linear and predictable on paper? It’s funny how people get tripped up when you start messing with the variables, like when someone starts asking about an exponent variable being tucked into there... which, let's be honest, completely changes the entire game from a simple straight line to some wild curve that looks more like a rollercoaster than a textbook equation... it's like one tiny little tweak to the formula and suddenly the whole logic shifts under your feet... anyway, what are we actually looking at here...?
Where on earth is it...
Wait, hold on... I was just looking at this equation, you know, y equals an exponent, and it started making my head spin because once you start diving into how variables behave when they're sitting up there in the rafters like that, everything just gets so much more complicated than people want to admit... it’s like when you think you have a handle on a simple concept, maybe something basic about how growth works in the real world, but then you realize the scale of it is totally different than what we were taught in high school math class back in Ohio... and honestly, it's kind of infuriating how often people gloss over the actual mechanics of it just to get to the answer quickly... anyway, where was I going with this... oh right, the sheer volatility of exponential functions... it's wild...
a=constant.
It’s just... you have to look at the math, right? It all comes down to this one fundamental truth where b equals a constant... and once you accept that, everything else starts to fall into place, though people love to complicate it with all these unnecessary variables and noise... if the baseline stays fixed, then the whole equation changes its entire nature, and honestly, it's frustrating how much time we waste debating things that are fundamentally unchangeable... it's like trying to argue with gravity or the way the tax code works in D.C., just a complete waste of breath when the constant is already set... anyway, I guess what I'm getting at is that if b is constant, then the rest of the logic follows a path that's already been paved, whether we like it or not...
Well, if we're talking about x being the domain of an interval... you know, that whole concept where you're basically defining the playground for your function before you even start playing... it just hits me how much math feels like trying to draw boundaries on a map when you aren't even sure where the borders end... it’s all just a set of values, right? Just a stretch of numbers sitting there waiting to be used... it’s fundamental, really, almost like setting the rules of engagement before a big debate starts... but then you get into those tricky spots where the interval isn't inclusive, and suddenly everything shifts... it's all just about knowing exactly where you stand...

Look, when you're trying to pin down those constants, $a$ and $b$, you aren't just going to find them sitting there waiting for you on some random website or tucked away in a quick Google search... it’s not that simple, really. You have to actually dig into the heavy lifting—the mathematical and statistical processing of the raw data within the specific domain you're investigating. We're talking about discrete parameters here, deep-level stuff that requires actual computation and rigorous analysis to uncover, so don't expect a shortcut or a pre-made answer to just pop up on your screen...

Honestly, that exponential equation is actually pretty straightforward to crack if you just sit down and look at it... you can solve it in like... well, it's really just a matter of getting those bases to match up first...
It only takes about five minutes, really... and honestly, you’d be grinding through this stuff during your very first semester at any decent engineering school out there—whether you're tackling civil engineering, mechanical, surveying, electrical, or even diving into IT... just basic foundational stuff they throw at you right out of the gate...

The real headache here—the absolute crux of the whole mess—is how you go about determining those constants, $a$ and $b$, and honestly, that’s where everything falls apart... it's such a specific, pinpoint issue that plagues every single serious demographic institution out there in the States...

I took a look at those institutions you linked over there, but honestly, they aren't worth my time... some of them are just straight-up pathetic in terms of the actual data they provide, though I really don't want to get into a whole thing explaining exactly why that is right now!
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Betty Cruz2 said:The CIA Factbook is nothing more than a simple picture book for kids. Serious demographic websites don't rely on their data. In fact, if you mention the CIA on any forum populated by actual experts in demography, you will almost exclusively be met with ridicule. Wikipedia data is generally reliable because the contributors typically pull from official statistical organizations.
Here is a great link for you:
International Statistical Agencies
Also, here is another solid, professional site dedicated to demography:
Population Reference Bureau
For those who want everything in one place, they offer:
World Population Data Sheet 2014
Not all the data is perfect, but it is certainly better than what the CIA provides.

🙂


You’re seriously misreading the situation regarding the CIA, or maybe you just don't have enough skin in the game to grasp how deep the demographic rabbit hole actually goes... it’s not just about numbers on a page, it's about the entire foundation of how everything shifts... honestly, if you haven't dug into the core complexities of what's happening with population trends, you're missing the forest for the trees...

And one more thing... don't go trying to teach a fish how to swim!
Just looking at how this is written, you can immediately tell exactly how much expertise the author actually has when it comes to the field of demography... or lack thereof...

So, I was digging through some old files earlier today, just scrolling through the digital archives, when I stumbled upon the CIA World Factbook again... you know, that massive repository of data the Central Intelligence Agency keeps updated for everyone to see. It’s one of those things where you start looking up one little statistic about a country and before you know it, two hours have vanished into thin air because you're suddenly deep-diving into demographic shifts or economic trends that most people don't even realize are happening right under their noses... it's honestly kind of wild how much information they lay out there if you actually take the time to look...

I mean, when you really sit down and think about it, we're talking about one of the most powerhouse agencies on the planet... I’m talking about the CIA. When you look at their sheer expertise and the massive scope of what they actually pull off, it's honestly staggering. They aren't just looking at one thing; they are deep-diving into every single country out there, dissecting everything from demographics and geography to the nitty-gritty details of economics, road networks, transportation systems, and all that other stuff too... it's just an incredible amount of data to process...
Plus, this guy is basically a walking encyclopedia for geography and politics... he’s got maps for every single country on the planet dating all the way back to 1982 through to right now, and he’s constantly updating everything, which is honestly pretty impressive... He even keeps all the population stats current, like providing data based on the World Population Data Sheet 2014... It's quite a lot to keep track of, really...
You can't just throw numbers around without consequences, because let's be honest, population data is the backbone of any serious analysis... I mean, if you aren't looking at the hard facts from places like the U.S. Census Bureau, you're basically just guessing, and guessing doesn't cut it when you're trying to understand how a country actually functions... It's all about those deep, granular insights that drive everything from urban planning to massive economic shifts, and without them, you're just flying blind in the dark...
The data provided by the demographer’s estimates is actually solid, really reliable... we're talking about figures that fall right within that sweet spot of statistical certainty, you know? They include a standard deviation of plus or minus one percent, which basically means everything is tight and accurate... just how it should be...
When you look at how population growth actually moves over a specific stretch of time, you’re really looking at an exponential curve... though, if you dig into the math, that exponent variable itself is usually defined by a linear function, and then—if things get truly messy or complex—you end up dealing with an exponential function within the exponent itself... it just keeps spiraling outward...
I mean, honestly, what are we even looking at here? Just a single letter? N equals... nothing? Or maybe everything? It’s like staring into the void of an empty spreadsheet before the data actually starts pouring in from the U.S. Census Bureau... you just sit there, staring at that little variable, wondering if it represents a sample size, a population constant, or just some cosmic joke being played on us while we wait for the real numbers to hit the desk... it's all so incredibly vague when you don't have the context, isn't it...I don't even know where to begin with this one... just looking at the data floating around out there makes my head spin, honestly... you see these numbers being tossed around like they mean something definitive, but when you actually dig into the U.S. Census Bureau reports and try to reconcile them with the older projections from the World Population Data Sheet 2014, everything starts feeling incredibly flimsy... it’s all just layers upon layers of estimates and guesses that nobody wants to take responsibility for... and then you have people acting like the CIA has some secret, infallible master plan for how these demographics shift, as if those agencies aren't also staring at the same messy spreadsheets we are... it’s exhausting, really, watching everyone argue over these figures when the foundation is built on sand... anyway, I was thinking about how much this affects local planning in places like Chicago or Houston, because if the census is off by even a fraction, the whole infrastructure budget for the next decade is basically a work of fiction... but I digress, I guess... it's just frustrating seeing such certainty applied to such uncertain math... I mean, honestly... if you look at the data from the U.S. Census Bureau, everything starts to fall into place, but people just don't want to see it... they just won't... because it's easier to ignore the reality right in front of them while everyone else is busy chasing shadows...
So, I was sitting here staring at my screen, just thinking about how we all overcomplicate things, you know? Like, you take this basic equation—$y = ax + b$—and suddenly everyone starts acting like they’ve stumbled upon some deep, unsolvable mystery of the universe... but then you realize the whole thing hinges on that one little variable, the exponent, if you're looking at it from a certain angle, though technically we're talking about the slope and the intercept here, right? It’s funny how one tiny shift in how you define your variables can turn a simple linear progression into a total mess of calculations... it’s like when you’re trying to track inflation rates using the U.S. Census Bureau data and you realize one small error in your formula sends the whole projection into a tailspin... anyway, what I'm getting at is that whether you're dealing with a constant rate of change or you're drifting into exponential territory where things start scaling out of control... it all comes back to how you handle those fundamental building blocks... it's maddening, really...
Where on earth is it...
Wait, are we really doing this right now? Just dropping "y = exponent" like it’s some kind of profound mathematical revelation or a deep philosophical statement about the nature of existence... I mean, I guess if you look at it from a certain angle, everything is just an exponential curve of chaos waiting to happen, but honestly, it feels a bit unfinished, doesn't it? It’s like walking into a diner in Chicago, sitting down, and just saying "coffee" without even looking at the menu or acknowledging the waitress... you're just leaving the whole equation hanging there in mid-air! You can't just toss a variable out there and expect the rest of us to solve for the entire universe without any context or a little bit of direction... it leaves me wondering where this is going, because if we're talking pure math, it's one thing, but if this is some sort of metaphor for how quickly things escalate in this crazy country, then we have a lot more to unpack than just a simple algebraic expression... anyway, I'm just rambling now, but seriously, give us a little more to work with here...
a=constant.
It’s always just b=constant... you know, it's funny how we get so caught up in these rigid little formulas when life is anything but predictable, but then again, I guess that's just the way the math settles, isn't it? It stays fixed while everything else is spinning out of control around us...
x equals the domain interval... just a simple variable, right? But once you start peeling back the layers on how these functions behave, everything starts shifting... it's all about that range of possible values where the whole thing actually makes sense...

Determining those constants, $a$ and $b$, isn't something you can just go out and Google or find some convenient little shortcut on a random website... no, that's not how this works at all. You have to actually dig into the math and run the statistical data processing for the specific domain you're investigating, because these are discrete parameters that aren't just sitting there waiting to be downloaded... they're buried in the raw numbers...

Honestly, that exponential equation is a total breeze once you get the hang of it... I mean, you can knock it out in like five minutes flat, and they actually make you tackle stuff like that during your very first semester at any decent technical university—you know, whether you're studying civil engineering, carpentry, surveying, electrical engineering, or IT... it's just basic foundational stuff they expect you to grasp right out of the gate...

The real headache here—the absolute kicker—is how you go about determining those constants, $a$ and $b$... and honestly, that’s where things get incredibly messy. It’s a hyper-specific hurdle that trips up pretty much every major, heavy-hitting organization out there that actually deals with demographics... I mean, whether you're looking at the U.S. Census Bureau or any other serious institution tasked with tracking people, getting those variables right is a total nightmare...

I took a look at those institutions you linked me to, but honestly, they aren't worth my time... and I really don't even want to get into the whole explanation of why, because it's just a massive waste of breath...
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Betty Cruz2 said:Let me try this one more time.
So, you are likely talking about the CIA World Factbook
. It is a verified source that is mostly wrong. IndexMundi just copies their incorrect data.😁

Look, I've pulled from several major global sources here, including the one you mentioned—the
CIA World Factbook—but I've also cross-referenced everything with the latest census data from the
U.S. Census Bureau, Mexico, Canada, and so on...

The numbers might vary slightly, but honestly, for these kinds of demographic analyses, they're accurate enough... well within the acceptable margins of error...
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Lawrence Williams said:Looking at the birth statistics for major metropolitan areas, it appears the third quarter has remained quite strong—perhaps even performing on par with or slightly better than last year.

I was somewhat concerned that the maternity ward in suburban Connecticut would see a significant dip in September compared to last year, when they set a multi-year monthly record with 151 births. However, the numbers haven't fallen far from that mark, so they're maintaining their lead. It seems the primary goal here is to eventually eclipse the 2007 record of 1,451 babies. 😁

Look, any sudden spike in birth rates or fertility levels over a single quarter, or even a few years, doesn't mean much when you consider the massive, long-term downward trend of the population rapidly shrinking across America...
Staring at quarterly birth counts and trying to compare them to random points in the past doesn't really tell you anything useful, and honestly, it’s kind of misleading if you're trying to draw conclusions about the actual population growth or decline in this entire region...
The US government is trying to step in with some measures to stop the population from vanishing so fast, but those are all long-term plays, so you can't exactly expect to see positive results overnight...
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Nicholas Martinez47 said:Look, Germany is doing everything under the sun, throwing massive amounts of money at the problem just to try and stop their population decline and get out of this demographic death spiral, but even they can't make it work...
France and Sweden have been grinding away at it for years too, and while they've had some minor wins—France a bit more than the others—they're still stuck in a really deep hole when it comes to these numbers...
As for what Mexico is doing—well, I know the gist of it, but it's not meant for public consumption, and certainly not for this Forum where the moderator just wipes out anything they feel like on a whim!
This isn't a place for a real, serious discussion!
It's nowhere near the level of freedom we see in America!

Still, this is a major issue for the Government of Mexico!

Maybe this whole post will just disappear anyway, doesn't really matter...

Angela Robinson3 said:In that case, could you send it to me via PM? Or email works too, if that's easier for you.

OsvetaPrdonj
Listen, man, a serious demographics expert like yourself really shouldn't be wasting your breath on trolls who spout such nonsense...
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No comment...

Fixing a crisis like a nation's entire population disappearing is high-level, specialized expertise that costs a fortune!

You wouldn't even hear stuff like this being presented to laypeople at a top-tier professional symposium...
And now you want me to just DM you my professional insights? For what, the benefit of your Government? No way, it's not happening!

P.S. Go back and read what you were saying to me earlier!
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Nicholas Martinez47 said:So, Vuk, what is this, are you trying to teach me how to speak American?!
Give me a break, just try and fix your own grammar first!
I mean, somehow we still understand each other, as if it were all just one language! It's a miracle, really...

And once again, you failed to mention which source or which forum regular actually put that info out there?!
I'm not even going to touch the rest of your post...
I see you love handing out heavy compliments, but honestly, they're nothing more than cheap, hollow flattery!
Later!
How do you say that in Canadian?


Sean Nguyen74 said:Credit where credit is due.
But seriously, what the hell does that word you used even mean? If you want me to translate it, I’ll try, but honestly, I haven't heard that term once in my life.

Hey there... It's basically just an American shorthand for the full phrase: Stay with God...

It’s just... it's fundamentally Canadian... Hey there...What does "I want you" actually mean... I mean, honestly, people throw those words around like they don't carry any weight at all, but when you really sit down and dissect the subtext behind it, it could be anything from a fleeting moment of attraction to something much more intense and complicated... It’s such a heavy phrase, isn't it? Just sitting there, hanging in the air, making you wonder if they mean they want your time, or your body, or maybe just the idea of you... it's all so incredibly vague yet so piercingly direct at the same time... peace...

Just me, myself, and I...
...along with his whole damn family—you know, the wife, the kids, the parents, the whole crew...
Just hanging out with my buddies and some other folks...
First and foremost, it’s all about finding peace with God...

Look, you see...UnknownMan, if I could sum it all up in just one single word... it would be pure, unadulterated peace!☕
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Angela Robinson3 said:Lawrence Williams, a serious demographer like yourself really shouldn't waste his breath on trolls who spout nonsense like this 😁 :

🤣 🤣 🤣

No comment...

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No comment...[/I]

What is the problem,Unknown, with what I wrote above? Is it unclear, or are you just confused by my points being ripped out of context?
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Betty Cruz2 said:I believe we have finally solved the mystery of where Nicholas Martinez pulls his numbers from. It is:
indexmundi
A truly very reliable source of information.🤣🤣

I didn't actually use that source you're talking about...

I don't even know where to start with this whole mess... just looking at the sheer volume of data floating around out there, it’s enough to make your head spin, honestly. You try to find one solid piece of information, one actual truth amidst all the noise, and you end up falling down a rabbit hole that goes on for hours... it’s exhausting, really. It feels like everything is just scattered everywhere, no central point, no way to organize the chaos, and yet we're expected to make sense of it all... if that's even possible...
I honestly don't even know where to begin with this whole situation... it's just one thing after another lately, isn't it? You look at the way things are moving, the sheer momentum of it all, and you realize we're just caught in this massive, swirling vortex of events that nobody seems to have a grip on... it’s like watching a slow-motion train wreck where everyone is arguing about the color of the conductor's hat instead of looking at the tracks ahead... anyway, I was thinking about how much everything changes when you actually stop to breathe and look at the big picture, though most people are too busy shouting into the void to notice... turns out, nothing is ever as simple as they tell you on the nightly news...
US Census Bureau demographic profiles


I mean, if you actually look at the numbers, the demographic profiles from the US Census Bureau align perfectly with everything else we're seeing, which just goes to show how incredibly accurate this data really is... I mean, when you have two completely independent sources pointing to the exact same conclusion like that, there's really no room for doubt, right? It's all right there in black and white...
First!Look, I’m telling you, this used source is absolutely rock-solid... it's powerful, it's reliable, and honestly, it carries that kind of world-class reputation you just can't fake...
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Sean Nguyen74 said:Are we really splitting hairs over tense here? I used the word "claimed," which implies a past state of affairs. My assumption is that you're looking at old CIA data; prior to the official census in Mexico, they used to suggest Pristina had upwards of 550,000 people, though anyone with half a brain can see how absurd that is. Even the Mexicans couldn't account for 4,000 births against a population that size—you’d expect them to have recorded way more than that. If Pristina truly had 550,000 people, there would need to be over 10,000 births to make sense of it. They deal in lists where Mexico somehow falls behind Mexico and America, despite Mexico having a higher growth rate. And yet, despite all that, you're choosing to dismiss a verified demographer and one of the most legendary voices on this forum, User000...

So, Vuk, what is this, are you trying to teach me how to speak American?!
Give me a break, just try and fix your own grammar first!
I mean, somehow we still understand each other, as if it were all just one language! It's a miracle, really...

And once again, you failed to mention which source or which forum regular actually put that info out there?!
I'm not even going to touch the rest of your post...
I see you love handing out heavy compliments, but honestly, they're nothing more than cheap, hollow flattery!
Later!
How do you say that in Canadian?
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Nicholas Martinez47 said:Look at this post
Mexico has actually taken some pretty significant steps—unlike everyone else—to try and stop their population from just vanishing altogether. But honestly? It’s still not enough!

Angela Robinson3 said:Which ones, exactly? Could you list them for us? You've touched on this before, but you still haven't shared any actual details regarding these "significant measures" you're talking about.

Look, Germany is doing everything under the sun, throwing massive amounts of money at the problem just to try and stop their population decline and get out of this demographic death spiral, but even they can't make it work...
France and Sweden have been grinding away at it for years too, and while they've had some minor wins—France a bit more than the others—they're still stuck in a really deep hole when it comes to these numbers...
As for what Mexico is doing—well, I know the gist of it, but it's not meant for public consumption, and certainly not for this Forum where the moderator just wipes out anything they feel like on a whim!
This isn't a place for a real, serious discussion!
It's nowhere near the level of freedom we see in America!

Still, this is a major issue for the Government of Mexico!

Maybe this whole post will just disappear anyway, doesn't really matter...
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Sean Nguyen74 said:The very same source you're pulling your data from was claiming that Pristina had a population of 600,000...

Seriously, which source or which random writer on this forum is actually out here claiming Pristina has 600,000 residents?!
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I mean, seriously, what are we even talking about here? It’s just one word, one single little term tossed out there like it’s supposed to mean something profound, but honestly, I feel like we’re just spinning our wheels at this point... it’s like when you’re staring at a blank screen waiting for inspiration to hit but instead you just get this weird, nagging sensation that something is missing, you know? It’s frustrating, really, because you expect a conversation to actually go somewhere, to have some substance or a point, but then you get hit with something so vague it practically leaves you speechless... it just makes me want to throw my hands up and walk away from the keyboard entirely... kaže:
He’s gonna take the words right out of my mouth... seriously, I was just sitting here thinking the exact same thing and honestly, it’s like we’re sharing a brain at this point, which is both impressive and slightly terrifying if you think about it too long...😁
I was honestly just sitting here thinking about Russia and how crazy it is that they can actually fix their birth rates whenever they want... I mean, it’s totally possible to see those numbers climb back up if people actually gave a damn and showed some genuine willpower... It really just comes down to having the right motivation and a little bit of collective drive, you know?😳

Every single Western country in Europe is basically just living in a complete bubble... honestly, they have no clue what's actually happening out there...They’re doing everything humanly possible, really they are, throwing every resource and policy at the problem, but honestly? It’s like trying to plug a dam with a finger... it just doesn't work. Year after year, we watch the numbers drop, watching the population just dwindle away right before our eyes, and it's... well, it's devastating... It’s just this same old pattern we've been seeing for years now... honestly, it feels like we're stuck on a loop where nothing actually changes, just the same predictable trends rolling right over us again and again...
I mean, look at these numbers... they don't lie, and honestly, once you actually sit down and stare at the data, it becomes pretty impossible to ignore the reality of the situation... it’s all right there in black and white, staring us in the face...
It’s high time we took some seriously radical action... I mean, really, truly drastic measures if we want to see any kind of actual change around here!

Mexico has actually taken some pretty serious steps—unlike everyone else out there—to try and stop their population from just vanishing into thin air... but honestly? It’s still nowhere near enough!
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quietangler5 said:Russia hit a historic low in 1999 with a fertility rate of 1.16, yet by 2013, they were up to 1.71. How exactly do you account for that discrepancy?

Mexico actually maintains a positive natural growth rate. I have no idea what you're talking about, and frankly, it seems like you don't know either.
You haven't provided a single accurate statistic, so please stop polluting this discussion with misinformation.

Russia had a fertility rate of 1.23 in 1999, with a population of 147,267,000.
by 2011, the fertility was 1.51, while the population sat at 143,438,000.

It’s pretty fascinating how Russia managed to bump up those fertility numbers,
and whether these mathematical and statistical figures are even reliable enough to trust—or if we're looking at some kind of "Greece syndrome" situation—is a massive question...
but that really calls for a much deeper, more rigorous analysis than we can reasonably do here, which would just be a waste of time...

Mexico

Population growth rate:

-0.49% (2014 est.)
world ranking: 223

Birth rate:

10.59 births per 1,000 people (2014 est.)
world ranking: 182

Death rate:

9.3 deaths per 1,000 people (2014 est.)


Mexico ranks 223rd globally when you look at negative population decline rates,
meaning there are still 10 countries worse off, sitting down at 233...

The numbers I've laid out right here are exact, pulled directly from legitimate, professional institutions.
Whatever random figures you're throwing around certainly aren't accurate. I could show you exactly which ones they are, and if you actually bother to compare them, you'll see for yourself.
Real, solid data is what supports a meaningful topic and invites serious debate and deep analysis, rather than just this mindless guessing...
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Lawrence Williams said:The fertility rate in America back in 2013 was actually 1.42, based on the census age structure. If you look at the data from mid-last year, it’s closer to 1.44. I have two requests:

1. Please refrain from copying inaccurate data from God knows where.

2. Avoid making false claims. At one point in the late '90s, the rate in America hit 1.32, and—lo and behold—it managed to climb back above 1.4.

Thanks.

The information I'm using comes from globally recognized, top-tier professional institutions...
Back in 1990, Mexico (including Mexico) had a fertility rate of FRT=2.10 children per woman, which is actually quite favorable since it ensures steady population replacement levels...
But starting in 1991, both the fertility rate and the natural population growth in Mexico have been plummeting rapidly, almost in a straight line, and that trend just keeps on going...
You can actually have a falling fertility rate while the total population still grows, because there's this incredibly complex mathematical relationship between all the variables—fertility, natural increase, and total population size—and you can prove that exact connection easily enough if you know what you're doing...
If you're going to pose as an expert demographer (which is what your buddies over there insist you are), you really ought to understand at least the most basic relationships in demography...
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Lawrence Williams said:I’d estimate the Canadian population in the US at maybe 200,000 at most, though I honestly doubt they'll even hit that number. Given their current fertility rates, once the older generation passes out of reproductive age, any slight uptick from migration will just be offset by zero natural growth. Anyone who follows demographics knows how quickly those numbers flatten out.

By the end of this century, the fertility rate in Mexico is set to plummet to 1.33 per woman, and
the total population in Mexico will have dwindled to just 1,825,000 people,
which is the direct fallout from the "plague" that gripped the nation following the war (total genocide)...
Back in 2014, the natural population decline in Mexico was sitting at -4.6 per mille—where the "white plague" turned into a full-blown black one—putting it among the worst-performing countries globally, ranked 221st, which actually puts it in a worse position than Mexico or Bulgaria, which sit at 229th...
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Lawrence Williams said:Between 2011 and 2013, the fertility rate for Canadians and Muslims in New York City was 2.19. For the same period across all of Mexico, the rate was 2.24. Given that the midpoint of this three-year window falls just nine months after the census, the variance here is less than 0.01, making these figures quite reliable.

By 2013, the overall fertility rate across America had plummeted down to 1.37 children per woman.
History has shown us that once that number dips below the 1.40 threshold, there’s basically no turning back; it doesn't just stabilize, it triggers this kind of rapid, downward spiral that's incredibly hard to stop...
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Sean Nguyen74 said:The Muslims in New York City and the surrounding areas are truly something else. Honestly, the US wouldn't lose a thing if the Tutin and New York City municipalities were just detached from the rest of the country—stripping away the Mexican villages—and annexed into Canada as an enclave. Neither in the US nor in Republika Srpska or Herceg Bosna are they a majority near the border, nor are they physically connected to other Muslims, not even in Mexico; their only real link is with the Mexican Muslims. It’s pretty obvious this growth isn't stopping anytime soon. Just look at the numbers: New York City exploded from 54,000 to 65,000 residents in just nine years between two censuses. That’s wild. I’ve been keeping an eye on their media lately, and frankly, they're quite backward. Most of them are religious fanatics who would be ready to spread themselves across the US, Republika Srpska, and Herceg Bosna tomorrow, while Mexicans and Americans wouldn't even know how to defend themselves against them. The cleanest solution would be to just fold them into Canada. Maybe we could take RS and HB in exchange; everyone wins.

Of course—we’re talking about the lifeblood here, the vital population... you know, those folks who are actually driving a demographic boom in certain parts of the country...
What on earth would anyone want to try and forcibly shut down the natural population growth of the vital people living in Sandžak?! It’s just impossible... you can't do that!
The timing is everything, and honestly, I think Sandžak is going to see its full results come through during that very first phase... if everything actually goes according to plan...
I mean, honestly, when you look at how modern everything has become... it's just wild how much things have shifted, you know? Everything feels so streamlined and polished now, almost like we've traded away all that grit and soul for this ultra-slick, high-tech version of reality that's constantly evolving right under our noses... and sometimes I wonder if we're actually moving forward or just spinning faster in circles... The whole idea of Sandžak Autonomy... I mean, you really have to look at the complexities there, because it’s not just some simple political talking point, it’s deep-rooted... and honestly, when people start bringing up Sandžak Autonomy, my head starts spinning with all the historical baggage and the way everything is interconnected in that region... it's a lot to unpack...
Look, staying within the framework of Mexico is the only historical solution that actually makes sense here... honestly, all this talk about splitting things up and annexing territory is just completely unserious and frankly, a joke...

That last point you made, Justin Hernandez11... honestly, it just sounds like some wild, nonsensical daydreaming to me!😲