Posts by Dennis Carter9

Michael Lee4 said:Not sure what else there is to say that hasn't been said already...

Maybe I'll just add that perception can be the root of all screw-ups...

Reading through the posts, plenty of people hit the nail on the head... it's just that you few refuse to see it since you clearly can't grasp it yourselves...

Honestly, I'm sorry I don't know how to explain this any differently than the way I spent my entire afternoon and night—getting into an argument with my girlfriend and ruining dinner... So yeah, I'm sorry, but I really don't know how else to put it...

If you're asking me—and maybe I don't have enough posts here to be considered "relevant"—just get out of here... You'd be doing yourself a favor anyway. It'll be better for you, (not for me), but it'll definitely make things easier for future generations...

Mr. Stinger isn't interested in making changes; he’s just out there earning his bread, and thank God for that. Even if he did care, he's already in the green. And honestly, if he wasn't in the black, what would be the point? It's not like CDRW or Wonders are complaining either... I don't know who else around here has enough posts to actually matter... it's a shame he didn't care.🙂))))))), or maybe he did... who knows..

goldenviper752 said:Given the sheer intensity of the enthusiasts on this forum—the kind of die-hard personalities and unique mental frameworks we have here—the moderation needs to be more or less exactly what it is right now. If we had mods who were any stricter or less flexible, they’d end up banning half the membership within forty-eight hours.

Folks, honestly, these debates are just as pointless as those political shouting matches you see on the news. It's like watching User walk in on George. Who’s doing better? Who’s failing? Is anyone actually being objective? 😂

It truly makes no difference to me that some people are burning through their energy writing four pages on such a ridiculous topic. Especially since, let's face it, this is essentially just the Lower House—you aren't going to have a say in picking the replacement, nor will you get to hand-pick a Mod to suit your specific tastes. You won't be installing a Mod who's personally loyal to you. Or will you?

Exactly... I'm with you on that... everyone gets what they asked for, though I'm not sure if Mr. Stinger actually wanted this... Well, look at the voting results... We'll just leave it in God's hands...

Michael Lee4 said:Alright, here’s a guy who can't stand me. We’re constantly at each other's throats, arguing about everything under the sun. He’s easily one of the most penalized users on this site—and he had plenty of reasons to be—but even after getting hit with a permanent ban once, I still keep him around for one specific reason.

Unlike most of you lot, despite all the constant attacks on me and everyone else, the guy actually knows how to write a high-quality post. Plus, he never whines when he gets a warning because he knows exactly why he earned it. It's not exactly a virtue, but I respect it.

He's your guy. And honestly, I could swear it's fine—at least he's not Brazilian or whatever. My bad if I'm not using your native language... who cares, really? You guys never cared about American issues anyway; probably only would have if it were just those two, CDRW and Wonders. Actually, Woder did say something about it once..🙂

driftingmason6 said:Look, I’ve got nothing against Michael Lee4. I actually caught a warning from him once, but honestly? I had it coming. I wasn't following the rules, and the guy just did his job. So what now? Am I supposed to go start insulting him or hunt him down to settle some grudge? No way. I messed up, and I took the hit. That's that.

My two cents is that Michael Lee4 is actually a solid moderator, so I'm voting for him to keep his position. That's all I've got to say. I cast my vote, and now I'm out of this thread. Peace!

Exactly. You get what you deserve... just like everyone else...

fadedsailor57 said:In my book, Mr. Stinger is one of the best moderators on the entire site.

Sure, he’s got a bit of a unique style, but at least he isn't two-faced like some other mods.

I don't know him personally, but he seems like a genuinely decent, straight-shooting guy.

Exactly, bro. And trust me, you're gonna get him—and not just him. You'll have Mr. Brazil too, plus those two guys who people say they are, but maybe aren't anymore... It'll all work out fine.

Casey Hernandez63 said:Man, I’ve gotta chime in too.

That little snitch, giving me all that attitude—he actually banned me! I need him back just so I can hang him by his tongue.
A quick thought on what was said above: 😂😂😂😂

Honestly, mad respect.
I don't think I could even last two days.
In a week? Half the membership would be stuck in some group chat full of losers, jerks, morons, idiots, and complete nutcases (not literally, obviously, but you get it...). And first off, Djenan would be getting exiled from everything imaginable—life sentence, permanent, unconditional... just gone.

Good grief, if I were even trying to hold myself back, I’d be five times worse.
There isn't a soul in sight who could actually pull this off. We seriously need to clone him and give ten versions of him the exact same authority.

So why isn't THAT you by any chance?

coppernomad28 said:@ HB, I set up the poll as anonymous, thinking maybe more people would actually bother to vote if their names weren't attached to it and everything was private.
Maybe that was a total mistake on my part?

It wasn't a mistake... In my experience, I've built similar forums before, and just so you know, you can still see exactly who voted for what...

All you really had to do was cast a vote in the poll and leave it at that. Even if the results ended up being 300 to 1, it wouldn't matter—you could still start making arguments then. But just look at the results we have right now...

Anthony Lopez5 said:Here’s my take on this thread, which I’d probably have started myself if I were one of the old-school members here.

Look, I think it's obvious to all of us that being a moderator comes with a massive amount of responsibility alongside the power you gain. You have to handle it responsibly and impartially—at least most of the time.

But let's be real: the way Michael Lee4 demonstrates his power through his moderation, his sarcasm, and the constant—both overt and subtle—mocking and insulting of users who don't fall in line, is definitely not a textbook example of good leadership.

Let me explain why I say that...

Our local "love him or hate him" figurehead has proven time and again that his actions are driven by pure ego. Honestly, it’s gotten to the point where I can’t tell if we’re dealing with Michael Lee4’s ego or if the ego itself has become its own entity.

I’ll look back at things over the last three years or so...

Back on the car boards, some troll using a handle like Rionero would start a "BMW vs. Mercedes" thread. What began as a total troll thread turned into a virtual hangout for many of us. We'd discuss everything vaguely related to PF, but genuine friendships formed there—offline, of course (to the extent that I actually spent my vacation this year staying with User and partying with User and User). It was all built on banter and casual conversation. Naturally, the popularity and post count grew because of it. If I remember correctly, Michael Lee4 wasn't a mod when the thread started, but he became one later. Basically, during that era, there was very little off-topic chatter elsewhere because everything centered on that one thread, making it the perfect digital lounge.

If you click the link to that thread and read even just the first 10 or 20 pages, you’ll be laughing your head off—and pay close attention to who wrote the very first post after the OP:

Of course, the main roadblock was Michael Lee4. He used to complain about us on other threads regarding that specific discussion. Even if he didn't delete those posts, I really don't have the energy to spend hours digging through archives to prove what he'll just deny anyway—not to mention he called me mentally unstable in a private message.

Then, once Michael Lee4 felt sufficiently empowered by his mod tools, one day the thread just vanished. It disappeared as if it never existed, without any warning or explanation. That was my first real glimpse of his character, which is ultimately the biggest stumbling block and the reason people are calling for a change in leadership.

It wasn't until about a month ago that I received a blunt, baseless explanation via DM: "there's no room for chat on the car boards." I don't buy that for a second. Productive conversations can come from anywhere, including a chat thread.

Anyway, the thread was dumped into the off-topic section—which is a tier below the recycling bin—and predictably fell into oblivion since it was technically part of the automotive PF. I honestly suspect this was a calculated move to make it look like the topic wasn't popular and deserved to die out.

My experience with Michael Lee4 shows someone who can hold a perfectly normal conversation right up until someone presents a solid argument or proves him wrong. Once that happens, the insults start—subtle in a DM, or blatant through deleting posts and handing out warnings. It’s the classic double standard: I call someone an idiot and get a warning, but he calls someone a MORON and gets a pass. And it’s not a one-off thing; it’s chronic, like bronchitis.

That aforementioned game of guessing cars was shut down abruptly and autocratically, without any prior warning. It was bottom-tier moderation. Thank God that out of a dozen or so posts, I managed to nail half of them on other PFs. I've dealt with other moderators before, and their style isn't anywhere near this. I honestly don't know how to describe this level of moderation without resorting to insults or getting a warning myself. Besides, I have no desire to stoop to Michael Lee4's level or give him the satisfaction of handing me a warning or a ban.

I also think a moderator should be able to tell the difference between a new user who’s just struggling to navigate the forum waters and a clone or troll who's specifically here to flame people and cause trouble. The former needs some gentle guidance, not to be immediately met with all guns blazing and handed a ban from the PF.

Real life is serious and difficult enough for all of us; we come here for information and a bit of relaxation and banter. But how are you supposed to relax when you're waiting around wondering if Michael Lee4 is going to jump out from around a corner with a red or yellow card? For God's sake, if this were soccer, fans would have torn him to shreds by halftime...

I know Michael Lee4 will probably start making excuses now through jokes, sarcasm, and provocations—but honestly, his chosen avatar says more about him and his ego than anything else.

I’ll also touch on that Lupo topic and those lukewarm apologies from Michael Lee4 about not being able to make it—look, I don't care if you couldn't make it, but you seem to find time for everything else, and that topic was bumped to the top of the PF for over seven days. Cj7 deserved at least a three-day ban for openly insulting forum members, but he DIDN'T GET ONE. He deserved the topic to be locked, but YOU only did that once the anti-comments reached massive proportions. Honestly, that topic probably would still be at the top right now if you had acted sooner.

I won't call you a shill for certain car brands or a journalist or any of those other nonsense labels, because I know that isn't true. You're simply incapable of being a quality moderator for this PF.

But the fact remains: based on your reactions, it looks like you blindly support one specific brand while refusing to allow any comparisons with other brands regarding design, price, quality, etc., always following up with that weak explanation that "this topic isn't for that." For crying out loud, where are we supposed to discuss it then? On a cooking forum?

This, like any other PF, should be a place where people can't wait to visit to read something new and have a laugh, provided it doesn't cross the line into insults. It shouldn't be a chore to check in.

Michael Lee4—you said yourself that you don't need this moderation in your life and that things would be easier without it, SO WHY DON'T YOU JUST STEP DOWN?

Also, I'm curious why the poll isn't public so we can see how everyone voted.

That's all from me for now. There's a lot on my mind, and maybe it's not perfectly polished, but if I think of anything else, I'll write it down.

Buddy, from everything I remember, YOU were the one we expected to open this topic...

mellowotter3 said:1.I could list plenty more, but I'll just say you're arrogant and rude... why does that bother you when everyone already knows that's how you are? It's easy, though—like a beggar holding a stick, pointing out everyone else's business while ignoring your own.👍

2. Right... I could address that "later I clear it out" comment regarding regular users... but then again, those who get provoked by others in a discussion end up getting penalized too... right?
How many warnings have you racked up so far?

bro, HE doesn't collect them, he hands them out. And there aren't any polls, NONE. He just needs arguments that he can decide for himself whether they're actually good or not... at least, that's my take.

Anonymous said:They haven't been part of this forum for a long time, let alone the moderation team.. 😁

Fine, so people exist, whatever... I know they do, at least for one guy... goes by the name, or nickname, VOJKY...

EDIT:
But then again, who am I? Just someone with under 17,000 posts, probably not qualified to voice an opinion on a place this irrelevant, where I don't even need to be. And apparently, my response to an inappropriate post... Stinger's... doesn't even count...

Hasta la vista, as some might say...

Michael Lee4 said:Complete mistake, man... you lost the battle right at the start, but honestly, I just feel bad because then the results would have absolutely crushed you.

If coppernomad28 wasn't such a gentleman, maybe I'd be the one here. Is there any connection between this topic he randomly started and the whole thing?

From where I'm sitting, not at all...

copperhound86 said:I must admit, I was initially a bit taken aback by how Michael Lee4 handles "issues" on this forum. Although I'm mostly just a lurker here, I've managed to put together a little over three hundred posts over the last year, which is quite funny compared to some other members. Through that, I've come to the conclusion that Michael Lee4 is exactly the kind of moderator this thread needs. A thread like this requires a moderator like him. If he were any more lenient, I suppose everything would just end up in the PMs anyway.

It's always good to keep your brain working. I actually wanted to answer post number 11 in this thread, but unfortunately, I haven't managed to find it yet...

Listen up, my friends. We all know we aren't living in some feudal system anymore, and the POLL makes that pretty obvious, even if it isn't perfect. Either way, Mr. Stinger and that other guy from Brazil are going to stick by us and look out for us just like they always have. I don't even want to bring up those other two; they have absolutely nothing to do with this topic..

So, democracy in action... Everything is working fine. Just please, for the love of God, calm down a little. Things will settle into place eventually. You'll get back to arguing about whether a "polo" is actually a decent ride, even if it's not exactly a gorgeous car...

Love you guys

Michael Lee4 said:Because before I got here, this place was a disaster—a total mess, just a pile of garbage... and I was brought in to fix it. Look, if I managed to "survive" my first month after nuking three chat threads despite all the heat people gave me, and now those same people are laughing with me instead of at me, that's enough for me. If a "kid" like Giga figured things out at 19, and people twice his age still can't grasp them, there isn't much else I can say... and no, I'm not a perfect user; nobody is.

If you made it through the first few months, you'll make it through whatever comes next. There are plenty of bros out there who will have your back. Just ask yourself... why are you even bothering to survive this if you aren't feeling it? The quote is below and the rest is above, exactly how you warned me it would be.

I mean, if it isn't Grace Turner, then who else? But hey, we're in America now, so let's just close this thread... What do I know, maybe the kid actually is the big boss after all. I'm not exactly an expert...🙂

Timothy Morgan38 said:Looks like someone’s had a few too many drinks... 👍

Celebrating your 1,000th post???

Look man, whatever you think you see, fine... but when people drink, they actually say what they're thinking.🙂

And isn't it more important to just say you want democracy to win... right?

coppernomad28 said:Seriously? Are we really seeing a bunch of randoms with one single post showing up now?

Give everyone a chance to vote until at least tomorrow morning. It hasn't even been three hours since the topic was posted...

Not happening, Grace Turner. Honestly, I’d rather have you on this thread myself, but wishful thinking and reality rarely shake hands.🙂))))