Reddit - A third stroke of luck for world leaders

Jack Cook7 said:In theory, maybe.

That’s a pretty shaky theory if you ask me.

Arthur Sanders74 said:That theory is super shaky.

The whole point is... Theory.

That’s exactly what evangelizing is all about. That's the whole point!

You’re out there pushing some wild idea, and you think you're "convincing" people, but all they see is some weirdo on the sidewalk.

Look, behind the scenes, you gotta "convince" the people who actually call the shots—the ones holding all the real power, and let's be honest, there aren't many of them. You do whatever it takes: blackmail, threats, bribes, maybe some prime beachfront real estate or a massive stack of Google stock. Whatever works. I mean, eternal bliss probably isn't exactly at the top of their bucket list, right?

Things can go south fast, too. History is littered with examples of what happens when future religious leaders decide to dig their heels in and resist.
Hey, what's up guys? Sorry, I've been slammed lately. Anyway, check this out. He tried to pick a fight with God, so He hit him with a divine arrow. Boom.

The Church of the World of Wokeism is officially under construction, folks. And get this—they’ve even made "humanitarian work" for the church a mandatory part of the whole deal. Oh, and they've got kids involved too. Sound familiar to anyone else? It’s like a total déjà vu moment.

Man, look, in like 40 years, we’re gonna have Woke activists parading around in high heels and mini skirts. And you just know the whole religious woke crowd is gonna be absolutely losing their minds with excitement over it.
Those few old fossils constantly lecturing everyone about how they aren't "normal" for wanting to protect their own freedom? Honestly, they’re just total nutjobs that nobody gives a damn about anyway.

Sound familiar? Feels like I've seen this exact thing somewhere before, doesn't it?

Still feels like a pretty shaky theory to me. If anything, the actual execution is just pure smoke and mirrors!

Arthur Sanders74 said:Still a shaky theory. In practice, it’s just total BS!

And yeah, the practice *is* BS because the "management" types just dump all the actual work onto the believers on the ground—people who literally have zero clue what they're doing or if they can even pull it off. It's classic socialist realism meets capitalism. The higher-ups don't know anything about the front lines. Not the managers, not the board. Nothing.

Management hits their KPIs, cashes those bonuses, and calls it a day. Even if the whole damn company falls apart...

The whole thing with the World of Wokeism is just another version of the exact same story. It always ends up in the same place.

When you look at the big picture—like, roughly 3,000 years of recorded history up to now—you see it's always the same loop. Always the same mess.

Jack Cook7 said:It’s actually pretty straightforward. The principle is the same as any religion or any arbitrary belief system—whether it’s Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Buddhism, Hinduism, or even Satanism, Nazism... if you want to count Communism, Capitalism, democracy, or dictatorships too...

Public confirmation, a public display of obedience to the IDEA.

When a certain group relentlessly repeats an IDEA in the public square, it gets forced into a specific social circle as the primary axiom; if there’s financial backing behind it, that circle expands until it suddenly becomes the only discourse available in public communication—just like what we see happening in the US today. It’s about securing mass media support for hypnotized crowds, pushing mentally unstable individuals or just plain agitators into the spotlight who will constantly engage in increasingly intense verbal and then physical aggression. That’s how the initial snowball starts.

Back in the day, Jesus told his disciples this parable: "Can a blind man lead a blind man? Will they not both fall into a pit? A student is not above his teacher. Even someone who is fully trained will be like his teacher. Why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye but fail to see the log in your own? How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' while you don't see the log in your own? You hypocrite! First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

Luke 6:39-42 ☕

(All societies function this way; everything is essentially the "selling" of an idea, whether it's a religion, national myths, or a set of beliefs. I guess your frustration comes from the fact that Western societies are much more aggressive in pushing their ideas, leaving you to just point out the manipulation and try to open people's eyes. Go ahead, no harm done. On the flip side, you have poverty, misery, and blatant, vulgar aggression (vertical, as you put it); the followers survive, while the strong get canceled—not just on Twitter, but much more directly. In these so-called free countries, the individual means nothing; they are crushed and degraded. They claim to uphold so-called traditional values, yet they have nothing pure or healthy left in them; it’s all just Sodom and Gomorrah, alcoholism, violence, and hatred, because these are societies without hope, so what else is there? Most people want more, and they regularly seek it in developed liberal democracies rather than in filthy, Satanic death traps (🙂), no matter how much those places might consider themselves unhypnotized (🤣).

TL;DR: For those of you who finally had the scales fall from your eyes, an alternative does exist. But hey, maybe you just can't bring yourselves to take the leap.

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Just your typical late-night vibe in America:

rowdytiger13 said:Ah, here it is: https://hercegbosna.org/forum/svijet...ti-t23897.html

I guess there's another one that complements this pretty well:
https://hercegbosna.org/forum/deutsc...kog-t5523.html 😁

You don't know the first thing about France!

Christian Bennett2 said:@rowdytiger13/">@@rowdytiger13, boldraven3, you guys really need to check out that thread over on the forum...
"Which Western state is going to collapse first?"😁

🤣🤣🤣

There’s a prize waiting for anyone who points out that this whole thing is just a false flag—because, let’s be honest, one country (cough, the US, cough) actually collapsed a long time ago... everyone else is just staying quiet about it.😲

Linda King said:Edit: cut it short

And honestly, Trump is a bigger Hitler than Hitler himself! 😉

Linda King said:[
(Every single group works this way—it's all about "selling" an idea, whether it’s religion, national myths, or just a bunch of shared beliefs. Your frustration comes from the fact that Western societies are way more aggressive at pushing their agendas, so all you can do is point out the manipulation and try to wake up the sheep. Go ahead, thanks for the help. On the flip side, you've got poverty, misery, and blatant, vulgar aggression (vertical, as you put it)—the followers stay submissive, while the strong get canceled, not on Twitter, but much more directly. In these so-called free countries, the individual is nothing; they're crushed and degraded. They preach these "traditional values," but honestly, there's nothing pure or healthy left in them—it's all just Sodom and Gomorrah, alcoholism, violence, and hate. That's what happens when societies lose hope, so what else is left? Most people want more, and they regularly look for it in developed liberal democracies rather than in filthy, satanic death traps (🙂), no matter how much those places claim they aren't being brainwashed (🤣).

TL;DR: For those of you who finally see through the BS, there is an alternative. But hey, nobody ever actually has the guts to take it.

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Oh, please. Tell me more about the legendary symbol of freedom from slavery, democracy, and capitalism: Haiti. You know, the one that had to pay France tens of billions of dollars just to be left alone.

Or look at Argentina. How they took out a British loan right after breaking free from Spain in 1821 and ended up still owing money 200 years later.

So where's this supposed misery? If we strip away all the colonial impositions, who's actually going to go hungry?

Linda King said:Look, every single society operates this way—it’s all just "selling" an idea, whether we're talking about religion, national myths, or just a specific set of beliefs. Your frustration stems from the fact that Western societies are much more aggressive when it comes to pushing their agendas, so you feel like all you can do is point out the manipulation and try to open the eyes of the sheep. Go ahead, be my guest; thanks for the help. On the flip side, you have poverty, misery, and blatant, vile aggression (vertical, as you put it), where the sycophants survive while the strong get canceled—not just on Twitter, but in much more direct ways. In these so-called free countries, the individual is nothing; they're just crushed and degraded. They preach these "traditional values," yet they’re consistently devoid of anything pure or healthy—it's all straight out of Sodom and Gomorrah. You see alcoholism, violence, and hatred everywhere because these are societies without hope, so what else is left? Most people want more, and they regularly seek it out in developed liberal democracies rather than in filthy, Satanic death traps (🙂), no matter how many people claim those places aren't brainwashed (🤣).

TL;DR: For those of you who finally see through the BS, there's an alternative. But hey, none of you ever actually have the guts to take it.

The only real difference is the money. I'm telling you straight from the hip.

Now, let's do a quick rundown of some responses to the bolded stuff above.

Even in the West, we deal with vile aggression—ranging from isolated incidents to group dynamics, all the way up to institutional and state-sponsored violence (think Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, etc.). World wars, concentration camps, the Holocaust... that's the West's handiwork. It isn't just incredibly bloody; it's also incredibly vulgar.

And it's not just Twitter where you can get canceled in the West. Unfortunately, we also have journalists losing their jobs, getting blacklisted, and being canceled here too. Regular people lose their livelihoods just because they said the wrong thing somewhere or showed something (take Emmanuel Cafferty, for example—Cancel Culture is basically the Putinization of society).

So, what's the distinction? Well, look: a country like China (a one-party despotism) or Saudi Arabia (a brutal Islamic monarchy), for instance, doesn't pretend to be a land of true human rights, democracy, or freedom of speech. You don't expect it from them. But us? We claim to be the democratic world where those rights are guaranteed. We HAVE to be held to a higher standard because of our constitutions and how we present ourselves to the rest of the globe. That's exactly why garbage like the Twitter nonsense—and even worse crap—shouldn't be happening in the West in the first place.

Alcoholism, violence, hatred... poverty, crushed and degraded individuals... you name it. If I come back from visiting California—and I've been to San Francisco—just the Tenderloin is enough to prove all of this: the violence, the misery, the broken people. As for the alcoholism, honestly, it would almost be better if it were just alcoholism instead of the massive fentanyl crisis we have now—people dying in the streets from fentanyl, including that new version of drugs that literally eats away your flesh. And that's just a few examples; you see this kind of thing not just across the US and Canada, but all over Europe too.

As for the violence, I think we all know plenty about the violence in cities like L.A., Memphis, St. Louis, NYC, and I won't even mention Chicago unless someone wants to start an argument. 😁

The East isn't just about Russia. Honestly, the whole region is fascinating! They didn't just export their culture; they exported ideas of prosperity and knowledge too—everything from Sanskrit to spices and countless inventions.

Russia today is basically like Iraq back in 1990. You've got Saddam/Putin in charge, invading a neighbor (Kuwait/Ukraine). The only difference is that today's players are much bigger. But at the end of the day, greedy, insane dictators are all cut from the same cloth.

See, that’s exactly why I want the country I live in to avoid acting like Iraq or Russia. If we’re going to claim we're some kind of democracy where freedoms actually exist—like freedom of movement and speech—then it actually needs to work that way. Doesn't matter who the president is or which party holds the reins... but, you know, whatever.

To circle back to my earlier point... the only real differentiator is the money. The Dollar (and then the Euro, the Franc...), that’s what keeps us anchored. That's why so many people flock here and to Europe. If it wasn't for the cash, most Latinos would never have moved to the US or Canada, or a Pakistani to the UK, or a Syrian to Sweden.

It’s not like everything is terrible in California either. 😉 Once you get away from the homeless, the crime, and those kids passing out and dying from drugs on the street—if you head a bit further north, toward that spot where a drunk Paul P. (Nancy's husband and arguably the greatest stock trader on the planet 😬) had his car accident—basically the Napa hills—it's beautiful there. But yeah, you need a lot of (okay, a massive amount of) money to live there. 😉

I actually caught a glimpse of a nice little win by one of our guys on the "top list" up there... in a part of California that still feels like the amazing place it used to be! 🙂

(And you won't believe this, but I wake up one morning, go for a stroll around the hotel, and find some homeless guy sleeping right under my hotel room window... and in this fancy little enclave, nestled in hills that look like Tuscany next to a ridiculously expensive hotel, there's still this level of poverty.)

This place just isn't for me anymore. I probably shouldn't say this out loud, but I voted for Jack Cook7's political platform with genuine enthusiasm, and if I ever got the chance to do it again, I’d do it with even more joy.
Later.

Linda King said:Here is another one that fits the pattern perfectly:
https://hercegbosna.org/forum/deutsc...kog-t5523.html 😁

I suggest checking out the thread "Leftist madness in the West"...

rowdytiger13 said:This place isn't for me anymore. I probably shouldn't say this publicly, but I voted for Jack Cook7's political shift with great joy, and if given the chance, I would do it again with even more enthusiasm.
Peace out.

Wait, you're actually going to let some third-rate Kremlin lackey kick you out of here? 😲

Come on, man. We've endured much worse. Take my advice: just hit him with the ignore button and send that pro-fascist trash packing. Don't give him a single bit of the validation he deserves for his posts.

cosmicgull52 said:Wait, you're actually going to let some third-grade Kremlin lackey kick you out of here? 😲

Give me a break, man. We've dealt with worse. My advice? Just hit ignore and send that proto-fascist trash packing his bags; nobody’s going to give him the 20 penalty points he earns with every single one of his other posts anyway.

I don't feel comfortable in this thread anymore. It's become generally toxic.
You wouldn't feel comfortable if you actually posted more often.

I am drowning in work again. I would much rather spend this tiny bit of free time reading or watching something. 😁

I don't see any toxicity here unless you or Linda King start quoting it. 😉

Fine, it is clear if you need a little break.

It isn't really my style, but here is something appropriate for you:

I actually read yesterday that within Soviet embassies, they considered the most obnoxious and annoying useless idiots (as I call them, unlike Lenin)
to be internally known as SHIT-EATERS. 😁 Is there a more appropriate term?

cosmicgull52 said:So I read yesterday that inside Soviet embassies, they internally referred to the most annoying and brainless useless idiots (my words, not Lenin's)
as total ASSHOLES. 😁 Is there a better way to put it?

Hard to beat that description🤣

I'm with you on this one ☕🙂

So, Bub, what finally did you in—was it Jack Cook7's endless stream of nonsense or just Arthur Sanders74 being his usual disrespectful self toward me?