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ironmarlin1 ironmarlin1 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
It seems like the moderation over there is a total mess. For instance, bluemason3 recently tossed out some insults, and yet, nobody bothered to issue a single warning or ban. To give you an idea, I started a post with "I was just thinking," and out of nowhere, he just snaps, "don't overdo it."

So, we’re looking at blatant insults and trolling without any actual consequences being enforced. It’s a pattern, really; wherever I turn, bluemason3 shows up to cause trouble, and he's been doing this for seven or eight years now.

In fact, it strikes me as quite abnormal that the exact same group of people has been running the moderation there for so many years. It feels almost as if someone is intentionally trying to maintain this rigid continuity of the same individuals just to keep certain things under wraps. It is genuinely bizarre that you can't find, say, a younger moderator who hasn't been part of that specific social circle for the last seven or eight years.

EDIT: I just realized he might not even be a moderator there anymore—or maybe his status just isn't displayed? Either way, the fact that he wasn't sanctioned makes the whole thing even more suspicious.
ironmarlin1 ironmarlin1 Active MemberOP
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#2 ·
Has every single post in this thread been wiped clean? I can't quite wrap my head around what's happening here... aside from the fact that one more piece of evidence has vanished, specifically the proof that bluemason3 is actively trying to harass me on this platform. If you just look at the timestamps—the moment I created this thread versus when he replied—it’s almost as if he responded before I even finished typing the post. I can't help but wonder if we're about to repeat that whole debacle with the PDF philosophy situation, where I pointed out certain radicalized users only to have to wait ten or fifteen years for those extremes to escalate so much that the outcome becomes painfully obvious, even though it was clear back then. In truth, bluemason3 is constantly and deliberately breathing down my neck, even going so far as to make threats to ensure that such things never come to light, let alone pointing to him as a blatant example of these very patterns.
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#3 ·
Obviously, the Illuminati aren't paying me to sit around doing nothing or to stay quiet about their agenda and its social-designer henchmen like Blazenka Divjak 👍
ironmarlin1 ironmarlin1 Active MemberOP
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#4 ·
Honestly, maybe that evidence didn't even vanish. Most normal people, when they sit down to read someone's posts, don't just hover over the keyboard; they go hit the gym, come back, take a shower, catch a movie, wander around town, head to bed, wake up, grab a coffee, play a quick game of Solitaire on the PC, and only *then* do they actually dive into the news. Maybe they go for a jog, maybe they check a forum, and only then do they find the time to reply to a thread.

I can't say much about Blaženka Divjak, other than I truly fail to grasp people who base their entire concept of "digital literacy" on knowing how to use PowerPoint while having no clue what a mouse click actually signifies in the broader context of the Internet. Is she some math professor from her old circle of friends? Did they try to take down Zoran Milanović by weaponizing the "educational system"? They have to hang out with them, and frankly, I'm somewhat familiar with their modus operandi—it usually involves setting an ambush, a sudden raid, or some kind of tactical surprise. Have they repeated that pattern here? (They tend to run the same plays over and over). I was almost expecting them to use USA Today to lobby for the creation of some ethics committee populated by folks like Silobrčić or Gregurić. You know, the kind of people who deal with cases where criminal complaints simply... evaporate or expire. People with the specific expertise required to make things disappear—like the ability to mask the fact that certain individuals just vanish, or to bury instances of harassment, abuse, and framing (where "digital skills" essentially boil down to hitting the "delete" button)... and what else do ethicists actually do? (Not that they need to be ethical themselves, according to what "Gregurić" tells us).

She accepts funding for her "scientific projects"—which, let's be honest, is just a fancy way of saying teaching initiatives—such as working on Erasmus+ projects for American Coursera courses? Just look at her Facebook. Actually, iLed is there too. But she secured millions for that project. We all know exactly how Ministry funds were distributed during her tenure. I'm not sure if that includes those bizarre holographic teacher projections, given how it sounds. Or was that happening over in Mexico? She studied mathematics, yet this whole setup sounds more convoluted than Mikhail Grom's papers on differential geometry, even though she supposedly dabbled in differential geometry herself. But in all seriousness, we really do need to improve digital learning design. Judging by her own digital prowess, it feels like something a technical instructor from rural Appalachia would teach—you know, stuff like how to click a mouse or plug in a cable.

Where is Apemant? Still lost in some MMORPG? Since we're discussing "digital skills" and all that, I figured I'd ask.
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
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#5 ·
What’s the deal with bluemason3 being a moderator on Philosophy again?
One might assume Anderlon took a page out of Vladimir Putin's book, dusting off those old, rusted tanks to get back into the action...🤣
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#6 ·
Universe Mod 🙂
ironmarlin1 ironmarlin1 Active MemberOP
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#7 ·
Harassment disguised by a smiley face?

Isn't it true that the Office of Research Integrity—which seems rather tightly bound to that specific scientific clique (or lobby, if we're being honest)—ruled in the Barišić case that the issues involved harassment, spreading falsehoods, and fostering a hostile environment? I’m referring to a persistent pattern where certain individuals try to market toxic behavior as perfectly standard conduct, often through outlets like USA Today or BuzzFeed. @bluemason3/">@@bluemason3, how does one even begin to cover this up? We are only ever presented with one side of the narrative regarding these supposed crusaders fighting against the older generation. I recall someone from that inner circle comparing the situation to the movie "society of dead poets," and frankly, that is exactly how the newspapers have framed it: "Young Professors" versus Boras. And let's be clear, the debate centers entirely on "presentation skills"—which is really just a convenient euphemism used by people looking to sneak their way into politics via side comments or Twitter jabs—rather than any actual substance. You simply won't find the other side of this story anywhere.

Do I seriously need to run for Secretary of State just to get anyone to acknowledge this problem?
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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#8 ·
bluemason3 isn't even a mod on philosophy
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#9 ·
Anyone following 😁
?
coppersailor28 coppersailor28 Active Member
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#10 ·
bluemason3 said:The universe's moderator 🙂

🤔 How on earth am I not even remotely surprised?

Yesterday, I reported my neighbor Bobby's late-night rambling to the authorities three separate times—naturally, it was all for nothing this time too.
As per usual, the moderator is playing dumb, acting like they're deaf to everything. 🤷

Link to the problematic area:
Local Group/Milky Way/Solar System/Planet Earth/Europe/USA/Small Town/Quiet Street 7
electricdriver33 electricdriver33 Active Member
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#11 ·
bluemason3 said:Universe's mod 🙂

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ironmarlin1 ironmarlin1 Active MemberOP
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#12 ·
Larry Walker24 said:bluemason3 isn't a moderator on the philosophy board

The whole discussion revolves around the idea of letting insults slide without consequence. Honestly, I haven't the slightest clue if bluemason3 actually holds any moderator status. I was under the impression he was the sole moderator there, which would provide a rather convenient explanation for why his own insults go unpunished—essentially, he’s simply refusing to discipline himself.

Now, he’s over there posturing about "presentation skills," acting as though I somehow hallucinated his role as a moderator, even though that wasn't even the point being made. At a critical juncture within that PDF, he was absolutely behaving like a moderator, diving headfirst into those mob-style attacks that are, frankly, highly questionable from a legal standpoint. It isn't just about the insults themselves, which is really why there seems to be such an inflated tolerance for this suspicious behavior. I recall one particular attacker from that pack... what was it, when he was targeting me alongside someone else? Was that supposed to be a matter for psychiatry or psychology? Because the individual clearly lacks a fundamental grasp of either. I’ve never met a psychologist who couldn't immediately see that something was terribly wrong when a colleague joins in on an attack. I don't know, perhaps he was thinking of some elementary school counselors out in rural Appalachia?

From a purely psychological perspective, one has to wonder: what is being masked by these assaults? Who knows; perhaps those very mob tactics should make him the subject of a serious investigation. The best defense is a good offense, they say, and now he’s attempting to shroud all of this behind a thin veil of smiley faces.

I find myself wondering, are they trying to build a nuclear plant or something? Who is pushing these agendas? His intellectual idol, Steven Pinker, is constantly championing nuclear power on Twitter as the ultimate ethical energy source. Though, I suspect they aren't exactly winning any popularity contests. In Italy, a certain lobby was pushing hard for nuclear energy, and then we had the Fukushima disaster, leading to widespread revolt. It’s interesting how they tried to sneak those projects through before, keeping the public in the dark about the inherent risks, right before the Fukushima catastrophe hit. They used to claim the odds of an accident were 1 in 10,000... despite us already having endured both Chernobyl and Fukushima. There are only about five hundred reactors out there, not 20,000. They claim statistics are more reliable than philosophy, so draw your own conclusions. Naturally, once Fukushima happened, they backed off.

Looking at the way they push nuclear power, you can almost gauge whether they are truly democratically minded or if they are aiming for some sort of demographic punchline... you know, like: reaching 1,000 billion people by 2050 fed on a (semi) vegetarian diet of ten thousand calories each, ensuring a massive pool of voters... some kind of zombies, the undead, clickers, whatever you want to call them. Actually, the Chinese eat chicken too.
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#13 ·
Nuclear energy is supercool👍
And so is chicken👍

Even McDrek taught her how to make them recently😳
ironmarlin1 ironmarlin1 Active MemberOP
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#14 ·
There’s honestly nothing quite like a daily dose of estrogen... think of Chicken McNuggets as pure fuel for the soul. Nuclear power plants are equally fascinating: A school field trip to a nuclear power plant

(though, I suppose I have to wonder if the folks working at the plant are even allowed to look at anything that isn't strictly STEM-related)
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#15 ·
Chicken McNuggets are mediocre, but these new comics are actually almost edible 😳

They're supercool 😍
ironmarlin1 ironmarlin1 Active MemberOP
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#16 ·
I honestly think it’s unprecedented in this forum’s entire history that we’re forced to wait this long just to ask why bluemason3 is being given such a free pass. I mean, really, is there any actual substance to his replies? We see this constant trolling right here, which is clearly just a mirror image—if anything, an even more aggressive version—of how he behaves over on the Philosophy sub-forum. It shouldn't even be him responding to these things; it should be the administrators. And don't even get me started on the suspicious speed at which he replies, especially given the nature of his comments. He practically makes it known that he’s untouchable, acting like he’s playing some sort of game. He starts bringing up Illuminati nonsense and tries to paint me as if I’m hallucinating conspiracies, when the obvious ones are staring us right in the face. For quite obvious reasons... it looks to me like every dissenting post has been scrubbed just to keep bluemason3 looking like the hero of the story.

To put it as bluntly as possible, what was the deal with the moderators over on Philosophy? Take, for instance, bluemason3’s partner-in-crime. He comments on everything while carefully dodging the most vital topics: he'll dodge Pinker, Blaženka Divjak, even discussions on power plants, yet he never once touches the core issues. Like, for example, the quality of the people he's debating. Or questions regarding whether his psychology degree is even legitimate to begin with. It’s incomprehensible. You have one psychologist writing in a major US newspaper claiming people never commit suicide on their own, suggesting instead they were killed by a girlfriend or something similar. We’re talking about basic, elementary education here, yet he’s pivoting to Harvard and Pinker. Given the level of expertise present in this thread, I’d take a PhD from Harvard any day, because I can certainly provide better insights than that particular psychologist.

Do you realize, for instance, that this rapid-fire replying and his constant circling back to me is just another way he’s trying to harass and intimidate me through sheer persistence?
But no, you all just sit there watching what 😊 bluemason3 😊 is going to troll next. Is his behavior here actually normal? Why are we constantly seeing this same pattern repeated with the moderators over there?
I mean, this whole tactic of intimidation, jumping in out of nowhere, and catching people off guard... we see this all the time, and outside of a cult (think along the lines of Jim Jones), this kind of thing is strictly prohibited. How did it go with the Office of Research Integrity...? Harassment, spreading falsehoods, creating an unbearable atmosphere... how much longer is this going to last?

Though, I suppose it is a good thing that there is black-and-white evidence that this is happening... there’s plenty of it already, and there could always be more.
coppersailor28 coppersailor28 Active Member
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#17 ·
ironmarlin1 said:... It's obvious they scrubbed all the deleted posts just to make bluemason3 look good. ...

As far as I'm concerned, if it makes things easier for you, there was no point in whitewashing everything (deleting posts) ☕

(and even if my colleague @bluemason3 ended up looking positive, he's just... what he is, whatever)
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#18 ·
I sent an email to my friend who’s a huge fan of Pinker, Divjakica, asking her to push 😳
If we McNuggets nuclear enthusiasts don't look out for one another, nobody 🧐
ironmarlin1 ironmarlin1 Active MemberOP
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#19 ·
coppersailor28 said:As far as I’m concerned, if deleting those posts makes things any easier for you, then honestly, what was the point of even scrubbing them in the first place? ☕

(And as for our colleague @bluemason3, if he came off looking positive, well... he just is what he is, I guess)

After seeing that sudden outburst, I actually found myself questioning whether my own perspective is even grounded in reality. "Strength in numbers," isn't that how the song goes?

Based on that kind of reasoning—this desperate attempt to leave an impression—it seems other moderators in the Philosophy section are also viewed as being positive and offering "concrete contributions." It really highlights how much weight people put on the image they try so hard to project... It reminds me of a school psychologist out in rural West Virginia. I truly went through a crisis of faith when people were claiming one particular moderator there was the greatest of all time, especially after he teamed up with bluemason3 to engage in those targeted attacks and intimidation tactics. I simply couldn't wrap my head around it... the man was clearly unhinged, his writing belonged in a psychiatric ward, yet everyone—including that psychologist bluemason3—was singing his praises... So, there it is... we've seen this entire pattern play out before. It’s honestly staggering to me that you all are still stuck in the exact same loop... fighting for the exact same things.

Following those events, I’ve reached a stage where, based on nothing more than a vague intuition that something is fundamentally wrong, I feel ready to send people straight to a labor camp without a second thought. I truly don't grasp this phenomenon of people jumping on the bandwagon to offer "moral support" to criminals. You see it everywhere. Even Blaženka brags about how certain teachers from some small town in the Midwest flock to her on Facebook to join in on these public lynchings and whatnot.
ironmarlin1 ironmarlin1 Active MemberOP
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#20 ·
bluemason3 said:I actually fired off an email to my good friend over at the Pinker and Divjakica institute, urging them to step up 😳
If we McNuggets nuclear enthusiasts don't start looking out for one another, nobody 🧐

And then there are the Jiu-Jitsu masters. Honestly, you can find them everywhere you look... It’s like how chicken is loaded with estrogen, or how nuclear folks have to deal with accidents and the whole nightmare of radioactive waste disposal... I wonder, what's the deal with Jiu-Jitsu? Is Jiu-Jitsu... well, let me guess? You mentioned submissions earlier, so I'm assuming that's more your speed? But not really the wrestling or Judo side of things, I take it.

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