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2022 Car Launches and Pre-season Testing (March 10-12, Bahrain)

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graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#281 ·
While testing provides some data, one must wonder if it truly offers a reliable window into the actual race weekend, as these sessions can be quite deceptive; however, what should genuinely weigh on the minds of those at Mercedes is the fact that their car appeared rather unstable even as we reached the final day. This stands in stark contrast to Red Bull, whose performance was so remarkably consistent that it managed to bring a smile to Helmut's face on more than one occasion.

In my humble estimation, the current hierarchy of the cars stands as follows:
Red Bull
Ferrari
Mercedes
McLaren
Aston Martin
AlphaTauri
Alpine
Williams
Alfa Romeo
Haas
Sam Clark75 Sam Clark75 Active Member
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#282 ·
stormybadger8 said:One. 😳
Bottas thinks Mercedes is in deep trouble—honestly, he’s out here claiming his Alfa Romeo is actually faster than the Mercedes. 😁

It’s all useless when his Alfa Romeo isn't moving an inch like it was yesterday. 😁
Raymond Anderson4 Raymond Anderson4 Regular
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#283 ·
graniteharbor502 said:Testing is just testing, so the data isn't everything, but what should worry Mercedes is how unstable the car felt even on the final day. It’s a different story for Red Bull; they looked so good they actually managed to pull a smile out of Helmut more than once.

My current take on the order:
Red Bull
Ferrari
Mercedes
McLaren
Aston Martin
AlphaTauri
Alpine
Williams
Alfa Romeo
Haas

My gut feeling:
Red Bull
Mercedes
Ferrari
McLaren
AlphaTauri
Aston Martin
Alpine
Alfa Romeo
Williams
Haas

That's just for the season opener, though. I suspect Mercedes will catch up to Red Bull pretty quickly.
cosmicmoose2 cosmicmoose2 Active Member
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#284 ·
I’m just not feeling the hype around Mercedes this season, even if they’re acting all confident...
The car looks like it's bouncing all over the track—just totally unstable, honestly.
If you ask me, Red Bull is sitting on top right now, though I’m desperately hoping Ferrari actually shows up this time to fight for those top spots.
Anyway, we'll find out pretty damn quick...
James Harris34 James Harris34 Active Member
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#285 ·
My prediction:
Mercedes
Ferrari
McLaren
Alpine
Red Bull
AlphaTauri
Aston Martin
Williams
Alfa Romeo
Haas
Elizabeth Mendoza Elizabeth Mendoza Regular
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#286 ·
Go ahead and bet on Mercedes for pole position. It’s the classic routine—just wait for the inevitable "Bono my tires are gone" before they pull off three straight podium finishes. I don't trust them for a second, though. Maybe if Sainz had actually complained about the track conditions, they might have listened, but these guys just live and die by the data feeds.
swiftmaker12 swiftmaker12 Active Member
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#287 ·
Honestly, this year’s cars feel like they're straight out of the old GP2 era from sixteen years ago...
Ferrari will probably throw everything they have at the 2023 season once we get close to Monaco...

If you've got solid drivers and manage to build a decent car, there's still a third factor I just can't seem to engineer myself
And that—is the team, the race strategy, and actually making the right calls under pressure
Total clowns, really
They're only good for playing barista or pizza delivery guy
Amy Castillo4 Amy Castillo4 Active Member
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#288 ·
stormybadger8 said:One 😳
Bottas thinks Mercedes is in deep trouble and that his Alfa Romeo is actually faster than the Mercedes 😁

It honestly surprises me that Toto and Hamilton haven't already gone on record claiming the car is an absolute disaster—basically on par with Williams or Haas—which is the usual pre-season script we see.

And then, suddenly, everything just clicks during Q3...
cosmicmoose2 cosmicmoose2 Active Member
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#289 ·
Robert Cox46 said:It’s honestly wild to me that Toto and Hamilton haven't already been out there crying about how the car is a total disaster and basically on par with Williams or Haas, just like they always do right before the season starts.

Then suddenly, in Q3, everything just works perfectly....

I mean, Russell was practically born to make those kinds of statements.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#290 ·
Honestly, we’re just sitting here waiting for Russell to go on a media tour crying about how much better Bottas had it when he switched teams 🙂
Just picturing Toto wiping his tears while using that whiny little voice, telling him, "It'll be okay, George..."
bluepuma9 bluepuma9 Active Member
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#291 ·
There was this great moment during one of the press conferences when Latifi mentioned how much positive buzz there’s been surrounding Williams this year, and then Russell just cuts in with, "Are you talking about me?" 😁
Elizabeth Mendoza Elizabeth Mendoza Regular
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#292 ·
bluepuma9 said:There was this hilarious moment during one of the press conferences. Latifi mentioned how there’s been a ton of positive buzz surrounding Williams this year, and Russell just chimed in with, "to be or not to be?" 😁

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graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#293 ·
Last year, the teams had their very first taste of testing on the track in Bahrain right before jumping straight into the season opener at that same circuit, which leaves us with a rather fascinating opportunity, doesn't it? If we look back at those sessions, we can really begin to draw some meaningful comparisons regarding just how much progress each outfit has made since then, wouldn't you agree? I find myself wondering, quite often, if we truly grasp the depth of our own perceptions when we engage in such spirited debates online. Is it possible that we are all merely chasing shadows of a truth that remains perpetually out of reach? One cannot help but ponder whether the essence of our discourse is lost in the sheer volume of our words.For the sake of a proper comparison, I have taken the most optimal times recorded during testing and weighed them against the results from Q3. It seems to me that if one looks closely at the data from Q1 and Q2, there were certain teams whose qualifying paces were actually a full second slower than what they managed to show during those initial testing sessions. Is it not curious how such a significant gap can manifest between the practice track and the heat of actual competition?

Kod:
Driver Test Q3 Gap
Verstappen 1:28,960 (C4) 1:28,997 (C4) +0,017
One wonders if Lewis Hamilton might find some semblance of pace by transitioning toward the C4 compound, given that his current standing sits at a rather sluggish 1:30,025 on the C5, whereas he managed a more respectable 1:29,385 when utilizing the C4? It truly makes one ponder whether the degradation levels will permit such a shift, or if we are simply witnessing the inevitable struggle of trying to coax speed out of a tire that seems fundamentally ill-suited for the task at hand. -0,640
One wonders if we might find some clarity in these latest numbers, though I suppose they only serve to deepen the mystery of the current pace. Bottas managed a 1:30,289 on the C5 tires, yet when he switched over to the C4, the clock dropped to a 1:29,586; does this significant delta suggest that the softer compound offers a more substantial advantage than we initially anticipated, or is it merely a fleeting glimpse of potential that will vanish once the fuel load increases? -0,703
Is one truly capable of grasping the profound implications behind these mere numbers? When we observe Leclerc clocking in at 1:30,486 on the C3 compound, only to follow it with a 1:29,678 on the C4, one cannot help but wonder about the sheer volatility of performance dictated by tire selection. Does such a delta not suggest a fundamental shift in the car's equilibrium? It leads one to ponder whether the pursuit of raw speed through softer rubber is always the most prudent path, or if we are simply witnessing the inevitable ebb and flow of technical engineering. -0,808
Could one perhaps find themselves contemplating the sheer variance presented by these recent timings? When one observes Gasly clocking in at 1:30,413 on the C5 compound, only to see him leap forward to 1:29,809 with the C4, does it not prompt a certain level of profound curiosity regarding the delta between these two tire specifications? Is it merely a matter of rubber composition, or are we witnessing something more fundamental at play during these sessions? -0,604
Daniel Ricciardo clocked in at 1:30,144 on the C4 compound, followed by a 1:29,927 also utilizing that same C4 rubber; one has to wonder, given the incremental progress, if we are truly witnessing the peak performance of this specific tire allocation, or merely a fleeting moment of stability before the degradation sets in? -0,217
One wonders if Lando Norris might actually find some semblance of stability with those tire compounds, given that his times sit at 1:30,586 on the C4 and then a somewhat more encouraging 1:29,974, also on the C4? It makes one ponder whether such narrow margins are truly indicative of the car's actual ceiling, or if we are merely witnessing the fleeting whims of track temperature and grip levels. -0,612
Sainz clocked in at 1:29,611 using the C4, followed by a second attempt at 1:30,215, also on the C4. One has to wonder, though—is this truly indicative of his ceiling for the weekend, or are we merely witnessing the inevitable growing pains of tire management? +0,604
Alonso clocked in at 1:30,318 on the C4 compound, followed closely by a 1:30,249 also utilizing that same C4 rubber. Is it not fascinating how those marginal differences in lap time can shift the entire complexion of a race weekend? -0,069
Stroll 1:30,460 (C5) 1:30,601 (C4) +0,141

It appears to me that the performance gaps between the teams aren't actually all that substantial, is it? When one takes a closer look at the data, it becomes quite evident that no single outfit is operating with a margin greater than eight-tenths of a second. Is it not fascinating how tightly packed this field has become?

Is there anything more tedious, or perhaps more fundamentally necessary, than the endless cycle of investigations conducted by the FIA? One finds oneself wondering if we are ever truly moving toward a definitive resolution, or if we are simply caught in a perpetual loop of scrutiny and bureaucratic maneuvering. Is it possible that the very essence of oversight has become its own end, rather than a means to ensure fairness on the track? It makes one contemplate whether the pursuit of absolute precision is actually hindering the spirit of the sport itself. The data suggests that these entirely new, significantly heavier cars ought to be roughly 3 to 3.5 seconds slower than last year's models. If we take that specific margin into account, it allows us to draw a meaningful comparison between Maxov’s fastest lap during this year's testing sessions and his performance from the previous season:
2021. 1:28,960 2022. 1:31,720
What exactly constitutes the fundamental distinction here? +2,760

It appears that even at this early stage, the cars are already outpacing the projections set forth by the FIA, which leads one to wonder: just how much faster will they actually be during Saturday's qualifying sessions? If one were to speculate on the threshold for success, wouldn't it stand to reason that anyone capable of clocking a lap time faster than 1:31,000 should arguably secure a guaranteed spot in the top tier?
Amanda Kelly Amanda Kelly Regular
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#294 ·
If the philosophy behind their PR strategy stayed exactly the same as last year, you’d have to admit that Ferrari is at the top of their game.
I'm not saying they're untouchable, just maybe hovering somewhere around P1-P2. Besides, they actually look like they're in a decent mood for once.
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#295 ·
Roger Wright94 said:If we were to assume that the philosophy governing the team's PR strategy remained identical from last year to this one, one might conclude that Ferrari is truly at the pinnacle.
I am not necessarily suggesting they sit atop the entire mountain, but perhaps somewhere within that P1-P2 territory. Besides, they seem to possess a certain optimistic disposition lately, don't they?

While it appears Ferrari is currently at the top, I find myself harboring a lingering fear that they won't be able to keep pace with the technical evolution seen at Red Bull Racing and Mercedes, potentially causing them to slip out of the championship contention entirely during the latter half of the season.
Elizabeth Mendoza Elizabeth Mendoza Regular
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#296 ·
It doesn't matter, at least half the season with the three-colored car wouldn't be bad to watch 😁
cosmicmoose2 cosmicmoose2 Active Member
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#297 ·
Ferrari really nailed those upgrades last season. That’s basically what allowed them to finally jump ahead of McLaren at the end of the year.

Another big plus? The car actually looks reliable. From what I could see, they didn't run into any major reliability headaches during testing, even with all those miles clocked in... which is huge.

If the car itself is "dialed in," then the real nightmare for them is going to be race strategy and whether they can actually stay consistent with their pit stops. One bad call and it's over.
It also comes down to whether Charles Leclerc has finally grown up a bit, or if he's just going to keep pushing the car right to the ragged edge... because if he does, we're looking at more disasters like Monaco.
swiftmaker12 swiftmaker12 Active Member
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#298 ·
I’d personally cast my vote for Romain Grosjean—though, for some reason, he isn't even listed in the poll.
Sam Clark75 Sam Clark75 Active Member
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#299 ·
swiftmaker12 said:Man, I’d totally vote for Romain Grosjean—but somehow he’s nowhere to be found in this poll???

Honestly, same thought here—I'd definitely throw my vote his way too! 😁
Elizabeth Mendoza Elizabeth Mendoza Regular
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#300 ·
I absolutely love these stretches right after the rulebook changes. It’s so much fun seeing how wildly different everyone's design philosophy is right now. Eventually, as things settle down, they'll all start looking pretty similar once someone finally nails that winning formula and everyone else just starts copying them.

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