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Question about moderating the US election thread on PDF World

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Lisa Thomas3 Lisa Thomas3 MemberOP
23 messages
joined Dec 2018
#1 ·
Hello.
As the title suggests, I have an extensive inquiry regarding the moderation of this specific thread, and I would appreciate some direct answers.
I’ve been a heavy contributor to this discussion for years, and frankly, I’d hate to walk away from it permanently. That’s why I’m attempting this approach—to get some clarity and decide if there’s any point in continuing.
I haven't posted here since Election Day, and for a very simple reason: there was a massive shift in how things are moderated at that exact moment. A huge number of users were slapped with warnings or banned, a trend that just kept rolling in the following days.
Naturally, this was triggered by the arrival of the moderator lonebadger6, who jumped into this thread like some glory hunter right after the election, despite having zero involvement beforehand (he had exactly 0 posts on the pre-election thread). What followed was a wave of warnings and bans—heavy-handed ones, in lonebadger6's signature style—effectively purging most of the long-term participants who had been part of the conversation before the vote. Most were kicked out for the same reason: trying to expose the potential fraud that occurred during the election.
Unlike many of them, I have a much calmer temperament. I don't feel the need to post if I know I’m just going to get flagged or if I'll end up debating the moderation itself. Seeing the current state of affairs and the attitude toward users, I decided to step back from the thread.
It isn't a secret that I’ve been avoiding any threads regularly moderated by lonebadger6 for quite some time. I said that publicly a while ago, again for a simple reason: I've realized it's impossible to have a constructive debate when he's around. He hands out unjustified, excessive warnings—something I’ve experienced firsthand myself (otherwise, I haven't had a warning in years, except from him)—and he seems unable to separate his personal opinions from his duties as a moderator.
But, as I mentioned, this is one of my favorite topics and I’ve been involved for a long time. I won't be falsely humble: I've made a significant contribution here (unlike the aforementioned moderator), and I am willing to go above and beyond if I can just get clear guidelines on what, how, and why certain things are allowed or forbidden.
Therefore, I am looking for the stances of the moderators and the administration on the following points. Please be as precise and detailed as possible so we can avoid any future warnings:

- (1) Any mention or analysis of the election theft—what some media outlets called the "robbery of the century."
- (2) Direct evidence of such fraud, such as voting by deceased individuals, multiple registrations (and multiple voting), ballot harvesting, turnout exceeding 100% in certain areas, ballot tampering, etc.
- (3) Indirect evidence, such as indications or bizarre statistical anomalies that point toward a stolen election.
- (4) An analysis of the farcical way Americans vote, which remains vulnerable to mass fraud regardless of this specific election.
- (5) The possibility of receiving a warning via private message if I post something the moderation team deems undesirable (which, in my opinion, is what moderators should be doing anyway when dealing with a user's first "mistake").

That’s all for now. Once I receive an explanation, I will follow up if necessary.
I would prefer to hear from the highest authority responsible for this section of the forum first, and only then the moderators themselves. This is to avoid the classic administrative "washing of hands" where they simply say, "I agree with the moderators."
lonebadger6 lonebadger6 Active Member
165 messages
joined Oct 2018
#2 ·
If you actually find something worth discussing, feel free to draft a complaint without all the personal attacks... then I might be inclined to give you an answer, and we can hash things out if necessary.

But you aren't getting anything out of this, whether it's from me or the rest of the team. Besides, the warnings on this thread were pretty damn clear.

- (5) the option to get a warning via DM if I post something the mods don't like (which I honestly think is what moderators should always do when it's someone's first "mistake")...

Actually, we already do that for people making their first mistake.

We just don't bother with the users who are clearly just clones of a bunch of permanently banned accounts, or those where we tolerated a new profile only because they promised to play by the rules and stay out of trouble...

Especially for a clone whose previous versions spent their entire existence filling up message boards with nothing but vitriol against the moderation team.


So, for now, I’m just going to politely remind you of the promises you made when you asked for permission to post here again.
Charles Fox10 Charles Fox10 Regular
352 messages
joined Mar 2009
#3 ·
And I’m just going to say what you don't want to hear... I agree with my colleague, so I'll end this thread here. Just a note that we reached an understanding last year, which I intend to honor. The rest is up to you.
Nicholas Watson Nicholas Watson Active Member
106 messages
joined Feb 2014
#4 ·
Honestly, I just feel like the mod team is being a little too heavy-handed here.

Take me, for instance. I’ve already picked up a few strikes just for raising questions about irregularities in certain specific instances—questions I backed up with video evidence from pretty reliable sources. These weren't just people rambling on vaguely; they were actually using available voting data and eyewitness accounts from poll watchers to make their points.

Then there's my most recent strike, slapped on me for supposedly pushing "crazy conspiracy theories" because I mentioned the threats made against two election certification officials over in Wayne County. I guess the mods won't accept Fox's interview with those exact individuals where they literally confirm they were being threatened.
Lisa Thomas3 Lisa Thomas3 MemberOP
23 messages
joined Dec 2018
#5 ·
lonebadger6 said:...

Charles Fox10 said:...


Alright, thanks to both of you for the detailed and thorough answers to some very straightforward questions.
If nobody else has anything to add, feel free to lock this thread.

Just one more thing—if it’s okay if I get a little personal—for anyone reading this who was involved in this discussion, feel free to hit me up via DM if you need anything regarding this topic. Just a heads-up: since my name was mentioned publicly in this thread, I haven't disappeared; I'm still here and active. However, for the obvious reasons laid out in the moderator's replies, I won't be posting in this specific thread for the time being.

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