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Are "healthy calories" actually a thing?

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wiredtiger2 wiredtiger2 MemberOP
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joined Nov 2011
#1 ·
Hey there. I've been chewing on a dilemma for quite a while now.

It's a hypothetical scenario.

day 1:

Let's say you decide to hit exactly 2,000 calories today. But you’re doing it the relatively healthy way. For breakfast, you have some boiled eggs. For a snack, maybe some oatmeal with berries, ginger, and chia seeds, soaked in tea with a spoonful of med. Lunch is chicken, rice, and some green veggies. Dinner is fish and sautéed spinach.

day 2:

Today, you also aim for 2,000 calories. Except this time, let's call it junk food. Breakfast is a hot dog or a burger with fries. For lunch, a heavy slice of pizza—something like a deep-dish style. Then dinner is pancakes topped with Nutella and bananas.

Assume you managed to calculate both days perfectly, hitting exactly 2,000 calories each time. And let's assume zero physical activity—just walking around the apartment, sitting, lying down, basically nothing until bedtime.

The question is: Will those 2,000 calories from day 1 and the 2,000 from day 2 contribute to fat gain in the same way? Is the first day "healthier," meaning those specific calories will somehow be less likely to turn into body fat?

Essentially, I'm asking if every calorie contributes to fat storage in the exact same way, regardless of where it comes from. Does a 70-calorie spoonful of med fatten you up just as much as a piece of Milka chocolate that also happens to be 70 calories?
Jack Ward82 Jack Ward82 Member
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joined Jul 2012
#2 ·
Smart calories offer way more benefits for your body!
When you opt for them, you're actually getting vitamins, fiber, and protein. Junk food? It’s just empty filler—there's a massive difference. What you put in your mouth is 😬
mellowraven8 mellowraven8 Active Member
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joined Feb 2013
#3 ·
wiredtiger2 said:What I'm getting at is whether every calorie contributes to fat storage in the exact same way, regardless of where it comes from. Does a tablespoon of med with 70 calories affect you the same way a bar of Milka chocolate with the same 70 calories would?

Yeah, as long as you're eating in a caloric surplus.

Keep in mind that carbs (like Milka or med) hold onto water, unlike fats or proteins, so any weight gain on the scale might look higher than the actual calorie count due to that extra water weight.

Look at cows—they eat nothing but grass and hay, which is pretty much living proof that if you eat enough of anything, you'll put on weight.
briskowl24 briskowl24 Member
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joined May 2023
#4 ·
If you're just fueling up on empty calories, you're going to end up feeling hungry sooner, running out of steam, and missing out on essential vitamins and minerals.
In the long run, it’s just not good for you.
I guess it isn't really fair to just look at how you feel during that thirty-minute window; you have to consider the actual consequences or benefits you'll see playing out over the next few days.
brightharbor7 brightharbor7 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2020
#5 ·
briskowl24 said:Empty calories just leave you hungry sooner, drained of energy, and lacking essential vitamins and minerals.

Plus the bloating and gas...
Raymond Clark7 Raymond Clark7 Member
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joined Oct 2012
#6 ·
wiredtiger2 said:So you decided to hit a 2,000 calorie goal today, right? But instead of actual fuel, you're going all in on junk food. We're talking a hot dog or maybe a bacon cheeseburger and fries for breakfast, some heavy-duty deep dish pizza for lunch, and then finishing the night off with pancakes topped with Nutella and bananas.

If you smash that burger and those fries, you’re basically done for the day because that's already 2,000 calories right there, 😁 so unless you want to totally rethink your meal plan or just eat double portions of everything else, you might want to think about whether that's actually worth it.
mellowraven8 mellowraven8 Active Member
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joined Feb 2013
#7 ·
brightharbor7 said:plus that bloated feeling, gas

Don't blame me for my digestive issues.😁
Elizabeth Wells2 Elizabeth Wells2 Member
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joined May 2023
#8 ·
Sarah Taylor20 said:If you polish off a burger and fries combo like that, you're basically done for the day—it's easily 2,000 calories.😁 You'd either have to overhaul your other meals or just eat half-portions of everything else. It’s a math problem; decide if it’s worth it.

What kind of man eats 2,000 calories in one sitting?

Is this a joke?

🙂
Ryan Wilson2 Ryan Wilson2 Regular
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joined Dec 2002
#9 ·
wiredtiger2 said:DAY 2:

Today, you have made the decision to consume 2,000 calories. However, you will be doing so via—shall we say—junk food. For breakfast, you’ll grab a hot dog or perhaps a burger with fries; for lunch, a heavy-duty pizza (think something substantial like a deep-dish from Pizza Hut); and for dinner, pancakes topped with Nutella and bananas.

In my estimation, DAY 2 actually clocks in at closer to 4,000 calories 😁 (and let's be honest, you won't be drinking nothing but water to wash it all down)
mellowraven8 mellowraven8 Active Member
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joined Feb 2013
#10 ·
Austin Clark59 said:What kind of guy eats 2,000 calories?

The guy on a diet, obviously.

Ryan Wilson2 said:I’d guess Day 2 is closer to 4,000 calories 😁 (and you won't just be drinking water, either)

Oh, right. The water. 😁

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