ESPN F1 Championship 2018

Adam Chase41 said:Why are you acting like such a stickler, man? That’s just not how the rulebook works. We’re talking about who actually takes the pole position, not just who clocked the fastest lap during qualifying.

Look, if you ask me, the pole position is always the pole position, period. As far as I know, penalties don't change that, but hey, maybe I'm totally off base here.

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Obviously, any penalties handed out after the fact won't change the podium results... but honestly, it doesn't even matter since Ferrari was running circles around everyone anyway, so it’s pretty much a moot point in this case.

Basically, this is a pretty tricky question...
On Polly, it’s obvious that whoever starts on pole position is having a good day, and that isn't always the person who was actually fastest in qualifying...
As for the championship, you're guessing race results, so you could argue it really kicks off at the start of the race—meaning after any qualifying penalties are handed out.

But then again, you have to submit your predictions before qualifying even happens. So, you could also say it starts with qualifying itself, making it pointless to factor in post-qualifying penalties when looking at the pole position winner...

The tournament is a totally different story since you're predicting qualifying results. It makes perfect sense to ignore any penalties issued after qualifying, just like you don't look at penalties after the race is over...

If my memory serves me right, we had this exact debate ages ago and even ran a poll to decide how to handle it...
I can't quite remember what the final call was, but if I recall correctly, it was about Schumacher's pole (Monaco 2012 🤔) being stripped away due to a penalty...
It wouldn't hurt to dig up the archives and see what was actually decided. 🤔

It’s clearly stated right there in the rulebook! Qualifying doesn't mean a damn thing here; all that matters is who takes the grid from the best starting position, even if they had to buy their way into it!

As Terry Carter2 pointed out earlier, this topic has already been debated extensively. The decision was made, and the rules now state it clearly and without any room for interpretation!
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wearymoose28 said:Man, let's just keep expectations low here, I really don't handle pressure well 😉

but there is one thing I need to clear up: if Hamilton pulls the fastest time in qualifying but ends up taking a 5-place grid penalty, does he still count as the Pole Position winner?

No.
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glad I brought this up so we could finally settle it 🙂

Good lord, Vettel... someone please just step away from the situation!

What are the early predictions looking like?

I honestly don't see a single redeeming quality in this forecast 😢

Ferrari completely botched my pit stop, so I’m not holding my breath for a decent result here.

wearymoose28 said:What are the early predictions for the results?

1. Adam Chase41
2. Matthew-nh
3. Templar

Adam Chase41 said:Ferrari's pit crew screwed me over, so I'm not expecting much.

And what if you actually *didn't* expect a good result? Congrats... unofficially. 👍

That was a solid race...

swifttiger75 said:1. Adam Chase41
2. Matthew-nh
3. Templar

Imagine if you actually managed to stay grounded by not expecting a win. Congrats... unofficially. 👍

Hehehhe oops, well, fine, if that's how it is. I guess it worked out. I honestly thought I’d be paying for it after losing those 9 guaranteed points when Kimi pulled out, but apparently, this helped my case. 😁

Way, give me the numbers! 🙏

Final Race Standings - Bahrain
1. Adam Chase41 40 (4) (-89) - 25
2. Matthew-nh 39 (3) (-108) - 18
3. swifttiger75 36 (1) (-90) - 15
4. akoj 34 (3) (-110) - 12
5. stormytiger4 31 (3) (-104) - 10
6. Kyle Edwards5 30 (3) (-114) - 8
7. wearymoose28 29 (3) (-102) - 6
8. krajina 29 (3) (-104) - 4
9. darkmarlin16 29 (1) (-110) - 2
10. mobberzg 28 (2) (-106) - 1
11. Terry Carter2 27 (1) (-110)
12. Ssung 24 (1) (-106)
13. Katza 23 (0) (-104)
14. ivic27 22 (0) (-97)
15. _express_ 22 (1) (-112)
16. The Best F1 driver 22 (2) (-112)
17. lennart 22 (0) (-116)
18. macondo 18 (0) (-114)

Man, Templar really went all out with that announcement!
A huge congratulations to swifttiger75, Matthew-nh, and the Templar order for hitting those milestones. As for everyone else? My advice is simple: stay patient and keep grinding.
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I’m feeling pretty good about how Alonso did. 🙏
Both Bambi managed to snag points for the second race in a row. It’s nothing crazy, but we’re definitely finding our rhythm. 🙏

Congrats to the winners. 👍

Congrats to the winner and the rest of the podium finishers. 👍
Taz is still finding his rhythm, though honestly, at this stage, every single point counts.

That’s how you do it, maestro! Your first big win for the Konkvić crew, and honestly, just the first of many more to come.

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