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The mystery of life itself

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Participants Rachel Williams18Thomas Nelson25Jacob Cooper5Sandra MoralesCarl Rivera43nimblewolf11Elizabeth Castillo87Michael Gonzalez77Benjamin Taylor6stormywolf5Drew Cooper4Rachel Price75Betty Chavez2wearyowl29velvetbear132placidwolf27Sandra Murphy33James Mitchell11Matthew Cruz44Olivia Anderson49bluemason3mistyotter44Drew Ross2Hannah Rodriguez …
Olivia Anderson49 Olivia Anderson49 Newcomer
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#81 ·
http://www.arunachala-ramana.org/for...p?topic=5980.0

They’re making the claim here that those with lower cognitive abilities are somehow incapable of achieving non-dual enlightenment. I suppose I should ask if anyone has any thoughts or perhaps a different perspective on this?
Rachel Price75 Rachel Price75 Member
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#82 ·
Do people with certain mental illnesses have an inflated ego?
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#83 ·
What does intellectual disability have to do with psychosis? Honestly, most of this is just being thrown around aimlessly. Depression can be—and quite frequently is—rooted in physiology rather than some psychological "drama." It can actually be a much heavier burden than a psychotic disorder because we're dealing with such a massive spectrum; you just can't generalize like that. Not to mention how mystical spiritual experiences often sit right on the edge, if not entirely over the line, of psychotic symptoms. 😁
Rachel Price75 Rachel Price75 Member
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#84 ·
So, if depression is just a physiological thing, then what's the big deal?
Standard medicine would just fix it... and boom, depression's gone.
And who's even talking about "mystical" experiences? I mean, we're talking about the actual nature of being human here, not some mystical stuff.
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#85 ·
Michael Hernandez77 said:If depression is purely physiological, then where’s the issue?
Standard medicine just treats the symptoms... and the depression vanishes.
And who’s talking about "mystical" experiences here? We're talking about the actual nature of being human, not some mysticism.

Depression is basically just symptomatic pus; the root causes vary. Sometimes it's biological, sometimes it isn't.

Also, just because something is physiological doesn't mean it's easy to fix. If that were true, physical diseases wouldn't exist, yet we still get sick and die.

The true nature of a human being is a beautiful, resonant echo that says nothing at all.
Rachel Price75 Rachel Price75 Member
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#86 ·
Alright, let's just keep it simple and skip the unsolvable puzzles for a second.
I honestly think there’s just one single cause for depression, much like how humanity has one root problem at its core.
Sure, the phrase "human nature" doesn't really mean anything all by itself.
To actually talk about it, you kind of have to roll up your sleeves and tackle it head-on. I guess just denying it exists is really just showing how little we actually know about it. 🙂
mistyotter44 mistyotter44 Member
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#87 ·
Actually, I wouldn't say that. I feel like I've already uncovered everything I set out to discover.
No matter how many hurdles life throws my way, I find a way to clear them. If things don't work out, I simply pack up and move on.

Then there are those deep existential mysteries. There’s always this internal tug-of-war because we are constantly pouring ourselves into something. If you had a perfectly tranquil spirit, everything might seem pleasant, but then what would be the point of actually experiencing anything at all? You'd have nothing to feel.

If you can, I'd suggest focusing your energy on saving up some cash so you can just get out there and travel. See the world. It’s a real eye-opener. Most people don't realize how incredibly dull and repetitive their own lives have become, failing to see that everything they're missing is waiting for them somewhere else out there.
placidwolf27 placidwolf27 Active Member
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#88 ·
Michael Hernandez77 said:Do those with "developmental disabilities" possess an ego?

People with developmental delays deal with neurological issues—dysfunctions, damage, anomalies—there are hundreds of such diagnoses and syndromes... their "ego" is fundamentally the same as yours or mine. I actually know a guy with an IQ probably around 80 or 90, and he’s truly the most cheerful, open person I’ve ever met. He can act literally as if he has no "ego" at all, yet he can also be as selfish as a five-year-old whenever the mood strikes him—who knows... he could even be enlightened while sitting right next to me sipping a beer, it's just that he lacks the ability to articulate it...

Various forms of mental dysfunction and psychological illness are, in a sense, useful—much like how psychedelics offer a glimpse into how the system operates. If nothing else, they draw attention to how the system malfunctions, creating a necessity to finally pop the hood and inspect the engine...

In this day and age, you realize that many people simply fail to grasp the nature of the problem because they have never personally grappled with these issues...

Illness, generally speaking, teaches a great deal. Aside from the experience itself, perhaps the organism is partially calibrated to learn from sickness and dysfunction—to register how things work so it can adapt, purely for the sake of long-term survival...
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#89 ·
I wasn't quite sure where to move this thread, so I'll just leave it here for now 😬
Drew Ross2 Drew Ross2 Member
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#90 ·
bluemason3 said:I wasn't quite sure where to move this thread—so I'm just leaving it here for now, I guess. 😬

Just found my new avatar. 👋
Hannah Rodriguez Hannah Rodriguez Member
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#91 ·
bluemason3 said:I wasn't sure where to move this thread, so I'm just leaving it here for now. 😬

Vec is actually starting to have a decent debate. 👍
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#92 ·
I didn't even suspect 😛
graniteotter5 graniteotter5 Newcomer
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#93 ·
It feels like all I’ve read on this specific page is a catalog of mental illness, psychosis, and straight-up depression; I can only assume the previous four pages were absolutely riveting entertainment. 😍
Daniel Gomez10 Daniel Gomez10 Active Member
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#94 ·
bluemason3, I bet the discussion here is going to be top-tier too 😳 😁
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#95 ·
Are you trying to get me kicked? 😛

The author could have tried defining the topic a bit better so we wouldn't end up drifting off-topic. What am I supposed to do with this? 😳
hiddenmarlin14 hiddenmarlin14 Active Member
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#96 ·
bluemason3 said:Are you kidding me right now? 😛

The author could’ve just defined the topic more clearly so we wouldn't end up drifting off-topic. What am I supposed to do with this? 😳

Oh yeah, I’m sure all the off-topic trolls will gather to debate, analyze every little detail, and weigh the situation with such profound depth that humanity might actually find the wisdom needed to survive and thrive. 🥳

Basically, it’s just everyone looking out for themselves 🥳—that's how things work in the off-topic section. 🤷
Patrick Thomas29 Patrick Thomas29 Member
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#97 ·
Exactly, Hannah Rodriguez. And just so you know, I’m right here if anyone feels the sudden urge to start insulting people for no reason. Go ahead, aim for me.
rustymarlin16 rustymarlin16 Newcomer
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#98 ·
Rachel Palmer56 said:That’s right—and just so we're clear, I'm standing by if anyone feels the sudden urge to be rude for no reason at all!

😢 🙂
Patrick Thomas29 Patrick Thomas29 Member
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#99 ·
rustymarlin16 said:😢 🙂

Come on, honey, 😍🙂

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