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Upgrading my old PC for gaming

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mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#121 ·
fadedeagle5 said:Hello,

I have a similar situation, so I figured this thread was a decent place to weigh in. I’d value your input.

I’ve got a PC from 2009. It was quite a powerhouse back then, but it needs an upgrade. What would you suggest? I’ve noticed it struggles when opening apps or trying to multitask several programs at once.

I don't play games, but I do heavy lifting with 3D software and demanding business applications.

The specs are as follows:

Windows 7, Intel Core 2 Duo Processor, 4 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 8800 Series, 600 GB HDD, 3.1 GHz

I want to know what the most critical upgrade would be. I can't afford to replace everything at once.

Check eBay for a used Phenom x4 and pick up a used Quadro card. You'll likely spend no more than $800.$333 You might even find a solid Quadro or an ATI FireGL card for very little money. Since you're working in 3D, the performance jump will be massive; that 8800 series you're running now is simply insufficient for that kind of work.
Robert Rodriguez2 Robert Rodriguez2 Regular
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#122 ·
mellowtiger83 said:Scour Craigslist for a used X4 and pick up a secondhand Quadro card too. You’re looking at maybe $800 max $333. If you hunt for a good deal on an old Quadro or ATI FireGL, it's worth it. Since we're talking 3D software, the jump will be massive compared to that weak 4800 series you're running now.

No point in doing that yet. Let them see how much of a difference SSD makes first before they start planning any big upgrades.
wiredotter14 wiredotter14 Regular
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#123 ·
Robert Rodriguez2 said:No point in jumping ahead. Let them see how much progress they actually make with an SSD first, then we can talk about potential upgrades.

Exactly. This whole "saving money" thing sounds like a slow hard drive and a lack of RAM to me. Whether a pro card actually helps depends entirely on which specific 3D software they're running and what their workflow looks like. Just guessing here is a losing game.
Bryan Taylor6 Bryan Taylor6 Active Member
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#124 ·
The iPhone 15 Pro isn't a great value right now. You're better off grabbing a Phenom X4 965 or something similar... pair that with some RAM and an SSD... then if you have anything left over, maybe look into a beefier GPU.
Robert Rodriguez2 Robert Rodriguez2 Regular
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#125 ·
It’s not even that bad, especially since you can actually unlock it.
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#126 ·
Robert Rodriguez2 said:it isn't actually that bad, especially since you can unlock it.

Man, I completely blanked on that. It's basically👍, then you just crank up the Quadro graphics and 3D performance takes off. You can find a K2000 on eBay for about $300; an FX580 or similar goes for maybe 200-$100.

If you want something that handles both gaming and professional rendering decently without the CPU becoming too much of a bottleneck, the 750Ti is definitely the move.
fadedeagle5 fadedeagle5 Newcomer
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#127 ·
Hey everyone.

I’m circling back to this thread because I have a few more questions. Regarding the specific setup I mentioned earlier:

Intel Core 2 Duo processor, 4 GB of RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 8 Series, a 600 GB hard drive running at 3.1 GHz, and an EVGA GeForce Series motherboard.

I also have a Lenovo G560 laptop with 6GB of RAM that I’m considering selling—I figure I could probably get somewhere around $150 to $600.

Since I’m honestly pretty out of the loop when it comes to modern hardware compared to you guys, I could really use some guidance.
As I mentioned before, I need a machine for work—specifically for 3D modeling and stuff like that—so I need something with a bit of muscle. Just some occasional rendering here and there.

I’m trying to gauge what my current desktop might be worth on the used market so I can decide whether to put that money toward a totally new build.
Alternatively, I could sell the laptop plus $333 whatever I get from the desktop to fund a major upgrade for the old tower. I'm torn on whether it makes more sense to offload both or just try to breathe some life into the old rig. Looking at sites like eBay, it seems like there are plenty of decent used laptops available for about $1000.
crimsonstag84 crimsonstag84 Regular
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#128 ·
I think you could see a pretty big speed boost if you swapped in a Core i7. There's a 1055T model out there for about $200(though I'm not sure if your motherboard will actually play nice with it, since I don't see it listed in the specs), plus another 4GB of RAM (maybe $150-$$67) and potentially a 120GB SSD. That would probably put you just north of $333 total. You'd obviously be looking at used parts for the CPU and RAM.
rapidpuma59 rapidpuma59 Newcomer
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#129 ·
Greetings and salutations to everyone in this digital corner of the universe!

I realize I have already posed questions here regarding potential upgrades, but due to certain unforeseen circumstances—none of which I care to dwell upon, though they were quite taxing—we were forced to put those purchasing plans on ice for the time being.

The current setup consists of:

I find myself once again staring at the specs for the Intel Core i5 4570 Motherboard Gigabyte Ga-H87-HD3 Corsair 2, and I can’t help but feel a profound sense of weariness regarding how quickly the sands of time slip through our fingers in this industry. It feels like only yesterday we were marveling at mid-range silicon, yet here we are, contemplating a chip that—while certainly functional for the most basic of tasks—now carries the heavy, dusty weight of a bygone era. I remember sitting in my study back in Seattle, nursing a lukewarm cup of coffee while debating the merits of various architectures, and even then, the inevitable march toward obsolescence felt like an approaching storm on the horizon. One must wonder if we are all merely chasing ghosts, upgrading component after component in a desperate attempt to outrun the decay of our own hardware. It is a cycle, really, a relentless and somewhat exhausting loop of consumption that leaves one feeling quite cynical about the very concept of progress.
I find myself once again contemplating the sheer, unadulterated chaos that defines modern hardware procurement, specifically when one considers the aging relics we still attempt to coax life from. I was recently staring at an Intel Core i5 4570 Motherboard Gigabyte Ga-H87-HD3, wondering if my own persistence in tinkering with such legacy components is perhaps a symptom of a deeper, more existential fatigue with the relentless cycle of planned obsolescence that plagues our industry. It’s a heavy thought, truly, much like the weight of a dusty chassis sitting on a workbench in a dimly lit garage in suburban Ohio. One begins to wonder if we aren't all just chasing ghosts in the silicon, trying to squeeze one more ounce of performance out of a motherboard that has seen better decades.
I find myself once again staring at my workbench, contemplating the sheer, fleeting nature of hardware, specifically this set of Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1600 C9 memory modules. It’s funny, isn't it? How we pour so much intention into these tiny little sticks of silicon, hoping they'll provide some semblance of stability in an increasingly chaotic digital world, only to have them become relics of a bygone era before the coffee even gets cold. I remember back when I was first tinkering with builds in my basement—much like how one might start a hobby in a suburban garage in Ohio—thinking that if I just had the right timing and the right voltage, everything would finally click into place perfectly. But life, much like a poorly timed system interrupt, rarely works that way. Anyway, I suppose I'm just ruminating on the specs here.
I find myself once again staring at the glowing rectangular void that occupies my desk, contemplating the sheer, overwhelming necessity of the AOC 23" IPS monitor. It’s one of those pieces of hardware that sits there, unassuming and quiet, much like a weary traveler waiting for a bus in downtown Chicago that is inevitably running twenty minutes late. One begins to wonder if we truly own our technology, or if the technology simply tolerates our presence while we cycle through endless tabs and flickering pixels. This particular model, with its IPS panel, offers a clarity that is almost unsettling—a sharpness that forces you to confront the reality of your digital existence rather than letting you hide behind the muddy, washed-out colors of a lesser screen. It’s a decent bit of kit, certainly, though I can't help but feel that in this era of rapid obsolescence, we are all just temporary custodians of silicon and glass, waiting for the next upgrade to render our current setup obsolete.
I find myself staring once again at the specs for the Nvidia GTX 650 2 GB, and honestly, it brings a certain melancholy to my heart, much like watching a vintage Mustang struggle to climb a steep hill in the Hollywood Hills. It is a relic, truly, a ghost from a digital era that feels increasingly distant with every passing software update, yet there is something undeniably nostalgic about its presence in the machine. One cannot help but recall those long, dimly lit evenings spent tinkering with hardware, perhaps back when a decent GPU felt like a genuine achievement rather than a mere stepping stone to the next inevitable upgrade cycle. While modern enthusiasts might scoff at such modest memory capacity, I often wonder if we haven't lost a bit of our patience in this relentless pursuit of raw power and frame rates. It’s a quiet, unassuming component, sitting there in the chassis, doing its best while the rest of the world rushes toward some unreachable technological horizon.
I find myself staring at these two Western Digital 1 TB hard drives, just sitting there on my desk, and I can't help but feel a certain sense of weary resignation regarding the state of modern storage. It’s funny, really—how we used to obsess over every single gigabyte like it was precious gold, yet here we are, looking at two separate terabytes of spinning rust, wondering if they’ll even survive the week without a catastrophic failure. It reminds me of a time back in the early 2000s when I spent an entire weekend trying to configure a RAID setup that ended up crashing the moment I plugged it in, leaving me staring at a blank screen and questioning every life choice that led me to this hobby. But anyway, what's the plan here? Are we talking about a simple expansion, or am I going to hear someone suggest some overly complicated configuration that will inevitably lead to more headaches down the road? Two 1 TB WD drives. That’s the situation. Simple, yet somehow, always fraught with potential disappointment.
I find myself staring at this rather meager 500W power supply, and frankly, it leaves me feeling a profound sense of trepidation about the future of my rig. It’s one of those components that people tend to overlook—they obsess over the latest Nvidia flagship or spend hours debating whether they need a GTX 1070 versus a GTX 1060 6—but they completely ignore the very heart that pumps life into the machine. It reminds me of an old story about a friend of mine back in Chicago who thought he could run a high-end workstation on a budget office-grade power brick; he ended up smelling ozone and watching his expensive hardware go dark in a single, tragic instant. A 500W unit is just so... precarious. One starts wondering if it can truly handle the sudden voltage spikes when a modern GPU decides to draw more juice than anticipated. It’s a gamble, really, and I’ve lived long enough to know that when you gamble with your hardware, the house usually wins.

So, the grand plan is finally in motion: I am looking to overhaul the power supply, swap out the case, and, of course, upgrade the graphics card. Given that market prices have finally started to dip—a small mercy in this economy, if you can call it that—I’ve decided to go with Nvidia. Right now, I'm sitting there with a GTX 1060 6, and I find myself staring at the GTX 1070, wondering if the performance jump is actually significant enough to justify the extra grind to save up the cash. Is it truly worth the headache? $333 So, regarding her... I find myself wondering if that processor actually possesses enough raw horsepower to adequately drive a GTX 1070 without causing some sort of digital bottleneck, and more importantly, what kind of power supply unit would one realistically need to ensure that the card operates smoothly without any catastrophic failures or sudden shutdowns mid-session?
I have absolutely no intention of swapping out my monitor just yet, but I find myself spiraling into a bit of a speculative rabbit hole regarding the future. Do you think a GTX 1070 is going to hold its own for much longer, specifically if I plan on making the jump to a new 1440p monitor in maybe two or three years? I can already see the struggle ahead, staring at a higher resolution while my hardware desperately tries to keep up with the demands of modern titles.
If you could be so kind as to provide a specific budget limit, I might actually be able to offer a recommendation that isn't complete guesswork, though I suspect even then, the sheer number of mediocre options on the market today would make the task rather exhausting. It’s a bit like trying to pick a decent diner in Chicago when every single one seems to be catering to tourists rather than people who actually value a decent cup of coffee, isn't it? Please, do let me know what kind of figure you're looking to spend so we can avoid wasting anyone's time. $233 It is perfectly adequate for that specific card, truly, though if I might offer a small plea—could we perhaps steer clear of Fractal Design? I know, I know, everyone raves about them and I’m fully aware they build high-quality gear, but their aesthetic just doesn't sit right with us; it's one of those things where, despite the technical merits, the look simply fails to resonate.
I have absolutely no intention of picking up an SSD right now; instead, I’d much rather funnel every spare cent I can scrape together directly toward a new graphics card.
And if you happen to be under the impression that my current rig simply lacks the necessary muscle to handle a GTX 1070, please, by all means, feel free to offer some alternative suggestions for a slightly less demanding card.
Larry Ortiz5 Larry Ortiz5 Regular
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#130 ·
Your CPU can definitely handle an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 without any issues—and honestly, if we're looking at things this way, think of a GTX 1060 as being more for 1080p gaming rather than anything else.
An NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 is solid for 144p gaming, and you could even push it toward 4K, though you’ll probably need to drop most of your settings to low to make it smooth enough.

In my opinion, picking up an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 is absolutely worth it. However—and here's the catch—if you find yourself needing to swap out your power supply, it's not necessarily because the card itself is a massive power hog. It's more likely just because that current power supply isn't actually delivering the wattage it claims to on the label...
wiredotter14 wiredotter14 Regular
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#131 ·
If you're eyeing 1440p, the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 is the move. It'll still be pushing that resolution just fine a few years down the road
rapidpuma59 rapidpuma59 Newcomer
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#132 ·
Wonderful, you all have truly helped me settle on what I already suspected was the most sensible course of action. There is absolutely no frantic rush to pull the trigger on these purchases just yet, primarily because my son is the resident heavy-duty gamer in the house; he can certainly afford to be patient and stick to running things on low settings for a little while longer.
Given that we are looking at the rest of the build, could someone perhaps offer some solid recommendations for a reliable power supply and a decent case?
crimsonstag84 crimsonstag84 Regular
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joined Jun 2010
#133 ·
Since you aren't planning on swapping out your monitor anytime soon, I’d say just grab a GTX 1060 or an RX 480 and call it a day. You could probably snag both a new monitor and a GPU for roughly the same price. It feels like a better value overall, especially since you'll end up with a much more capable mainstream card than an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 in maybe two or three years.

Even an RX 480 with 4GB for about $633 would likely get the job done just fine.

Maybe look into a Corsair case or a Fractal Design Case, paired with an EVGA Power Supply.
rapidpuma59 rapidpuma59 Newcomer
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#134 ·
So, what’s the verdict on these cases:

http://www.nabava.net/kucista__300/a...anja__28932791

http://www.nabava.net/kucista__300/s...anja__29662011

http://www.nabava.net/kucista__300/a...jela__31679491

I realize I’ve thrown quite a bit of information at you all at once—my apologies, I tend to ramble when I'm undecided—but if anyone could offer some guidance, I’d truly appreciate it. Furthermore, I suppose I should ask for some power supply recommendations just to broaden my horizons and see what else is out there in the market.
crimsonstag84, since we aren't exactly swapping out our GPUs every other week, we're going to settle on an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 regardless, so please, steer your advice in that direction.
rapidpuma59 rapidpuma59 Newcomer
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#135 ·
It is probably for the best that nobody chimed in earlier, because we have completely pivoted our strategy. We realized we weren't actually feeling the Corsair option until we happened upon the white version, and frankly, they are two entirely different aesthetic universes. Plus, I am quite taken by the fact that it comes with five pre-installed fans already. We have narrowed our shortlist down to just three choices, so I would truly appreciate it if someone could lend us their expertise and help us make a final call.
So, here is what we are looking at:

http://www.amazon.com/cases/atx/b/?node=12345

http://www.amazon.com/cases/atx/b/?node=12345

https://www.newegg.com/nzxt-case-genz-077.aspx.

On a side note, if anyone could suggest a slightly more budget-friendly power supply, that would be grand. crimsonstag84, I trust your judgment implicitly, but is there perhaps an alternative that won't drain the wallet quite so heavily?

Best regards to everyone, and I sincerely hope someone decides to weigh in.
crimsonstag84 crimsonstag84 Regular
518 messages
joined Jun 2010
#136 ·
I’d go with an EVGA Power Supply over the Corsair one, personally...

The ASUS Motherboard is fine, but I wouldn't skimp $33 on the power supply—not if you're already picking up an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 and a case that costs just as much, if not more.
rapidpuma59 rapidpuma59 Newcomer
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#137 ·
Fair enough, I’m on board regarding the power supply, but if anyone could spare just a moment to explain why the Corsair isn't the way to go—it was actually my son's absolute favorite when we first started looking
though he wouldn't mind the Corsair either since the case itself looks quite sharp, but you know me, I can't help being a bit inquisitive about these things.
If anyone else has some brilliant ideas or insights, please, don't hold back!
rapidpuma59 rapidpuma59 Newcomer
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#138 ·
It appears I’ve bungled the formatting of those links quite spectacularly, a clumsy oversight on my part. They were intended to be presented in this manner:

http://www.newegg.com/p/pc-cases__300/k...-atx__31558191

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nzxt-case-genz-077.aspx

https://www.microcenter.com/product.aspx?lid=212243
Kimberly Gomez34 Kimberly Gomez34 Regular
686 messages
joined Jul 2009
#139 ·
Let the kid pick out whatever he actually wants (it’s the only one he’ll truly connect with anyway). Besides, you aren't exactly eyeing those cheap, bottom-of-the-barrel cases from $33
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rapidpuma59 rapidpuma59 Newcomer
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#140 ·
I suspect our final configuration will likely settle into something resembling this:

Intel Core i5 4570 Motherboard Gigabyte Ga-H87-HD3 Corsair 2
Motherboard Gigabyte Ga-H87-HD3
Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1600 C9
AOC IPS 23" Monitor 12367Fm
Two 1 TB Western Digital hard drives
Corsair Phantom 410 case, mid-tower, without power supply, ATX
Fractal Design Edison m 550W MSI power supply
MSI Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 graphics card, SLI, 8GB DDR5, HDMI, DVI

Should anyone possess any wisdom or suggestions on how to refine this setup further, please, I beg of you, do reach out and let me know.

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