northernsailor8 said:I actually deleted her third version within a few days; someone else took down the first one.
The thread was basically just attracting trolls without any actual substance. As for the topic itself—the European Union doesn't even have functional armed forces (they only exist on paper). Any real intervention happens through NATO as a military alliance. There’s no such thing as an "EU intervention" because there isn't the agreement, the legal framework, or the political will for it. That whole idea is mostly just talk for the Alternative crowd.
I hope I'm not being disrespectful by thanking you for that recognition, moderator northernsailor8...
Was this decision made following the precedent of how other moderators have handled things, or did you just decide to shut it down based on your own judgment?
Let me explain my side...
The thread actually started off quite well. Within just a few hours, it had about 400 views and a dozen posts.
A discussion doesn't mean much if we don't have enough colleagues who possess a critical mind and the ability to see what really matters.
And maybe it didn't fit the moderator's vision, but with the poll added, things were moving along just fine, which the comments showed...
The accusation was that the topic was vague. That hits a bit hard for the author's ego, but don't worry, it doesn't hurt that much.
We can move past all that, but by whose standards are we going to decide what is vague and what isn't?!
Looking at the current threads doesn't offer much reassurance, and honestly, some of them could use a grammar check for people typing entirely in lowercase and such.
But let me explain regarding the closed thread...
Sure, the European Union doesn't have an army, but they're going to need to establish some kind of usable military force because the geopolitical situation is incredibly messy.
For instance, NATO includes Turkey, which is currently in a tense standoff with Russia over the crisis in Syria.
The NATO treaty states that if even one member is attacked by a third party, all other NATO members will step in to defend them.
Lately, there have been several political signals coming from NATO headquarters toward Ankara, seriously requesting that they de-escalate, otherwise certain articles might be interpreted in a way where a provocative Turkey finds itself facing an attack alone, without help from the rest.
So why create an EU Army?
The Americans foot most of the bill for NATO. They hold massive influence within that alliance.
Europeans have been dealing with a crisis since the Arab Spring began in 2011. We're paying the price today with the arrival of over a million refugees, both from the Middle East and elsewhere...
And what can Europe actually do?
Keep coast guards stationed on Greek islands to stop small boats from smuggling people looking for asylum and a better life?!
We don't need an EU Army for that...
The fact that another 5 million people are waiting to enter Europe—regardless of whether we need the labor—is information that makes many European leaders break out in a sweat...
What would be the best solution?
Creating a European expeditionary force.
With what mission?
To stabilize the areas bordering and undermining Europe's internal security, which threaten the continent's borders and invite blackmail.
How would these corrections be carried out?
By sending in professional crisis management experts...
Right now, we're just relying on whatever happens.
No, we have to make a choice to prevent that. We have to manage these relationships if we don't want those relationships to unravel us...
Please, let's reopen the discussion...