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Spotting some major inconsistencies here

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neonfox12 neonfox12 MemberOP
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joined Nov 2014
#1 ·
So, ever since I joined this community, there’s been this persistent claim that we are a "private forum." But what does the term "private forum" actually signify in a practical sense?

After doing a bit of light digging, I’ve landed on this definition:
A private forum is one that is restricted to registered members or a specific class of users. Similarly, a private-side website refers to a section of a site that is only accessible to a designated group of users.

Do I need to translate this? Or rather, do I need to be a registered user just to access the bulk of this site?

On the other hand, a public forum is defined as follows:
A public forum is a space that has, through tradition or established practice, been offered for general use by the public for purposes related to free speech.

Honestly, it’s becoming quite grating to hear people insist this is a private forum—it feels like a convenient shield used to hide poorly conceived decisions made by certain staff members.

The reality is that this is a privately owned public forum. Because of that distinction, there are certain standards and rules that should be respected, even if they seem inconvenient to most of the moderation team. To clarify what constitutes a public forum, let's look at this:
What exactly is a medium? A medium is any instrument used to transmit a message from a communicator to a recipient.
(Tom Hanks)

Media systems serve as channels for public information, designed to disseminate news and audiovisual content to inform, educate, and entertain the broadest segments of the population.
(Wikipedia) An online forum is a medium.

And what does the law say regarding media? —> The Law.

I’ll highlight this specific part:

Public information refers to the dissemination of information carried out through various media outlets.

I would kindly ask everyone to refrain from being misleading, because as a public medium, you are liable for damages caused by published information. In legal terms, damage is defined as:
Damage includes the reduction of someone's property or the prevention of its increase (material damage), as well as the infliction of physical or psychological pain or fear (non-material damage).

By misleading people into believing this is a private forum—which would exempt it from being a public medium—you are causing precisely that kind of psychological distress or fear. You are implying that many laws simply don't apply here, which effectively stifles the freedom of speech and expression guaranteed under Article 1 of the law linked above.

The provisions of this Law shall be applied and interpreted in accordance with the European Convention on Human Rights.

The aspect where you most significantly infringe upon the rights of forum users is when you deny them the right to correction and rebuttal (non-material damage). It has happened far too many times where posts explaining a certain viewpoint are deleted, leaving behind only the snippet where the context is stripped away, making it look completely different. Naturally, that remaining post then gets penalized. Furthermore, this creates an atmosphere of fear, as many people are now afraid to voice their actual opinions for fear of being banned.

I’m writing this response because I’ve noticed a recurring pattern of spreading misinformation, which essentially serves to mislead the less informed users here on Reddit.

I really think it’s time to put an end to this kind of practice.
Sophia Thomas7 Sophia Thomas7 Active Member
183 messages
joined Aug 2015
#2 ·
If the owner of a site like Reddit wants to mandate that everyone writes in yellow font or wears a tiny hat in their profile picture, that’s their call—users can either play along or take their business elsewhere.

Regardless of what you just laid out, the reality is that posts can be nuked for any reason at all, and accounts can get banned without so much as a heads-up; everything else is basically just a matter of discretion. If someone actually wants to try filing a private lawsuit over deleted posts or a ban, well, good luck with that—I don't think anyone has ever successfully set a precedent like that.

The idea that someone suffered actual damages just because they were told this is a private forum is, quite frankly, hilarious.
neonfox12 neonfox12 MemberOP
17 messages
joined Nov 2014
#3 ·
Matthew Anderson, stop stalking my threads. 😛

What you’re describing isn't an infringement in any meaningful sense. By framing it that way, you're essentially trivializing my entire point.

The issue isn't simply about deleting posts; it's about how deleting them distorts someone's actual perspective by stripping away their opportunity to explain themselves. We might not have seen a precedent for this exact scenario here yet, but the reality is that the principles of the European Convention on Human Rights are being bypassed on this platform. Ten years ago, we wouldn't have been dealing with this kind of thing in mainstream media, but nowadays, we're constantly bombarded with nothing but denials and damage control. It’s a slow process, but the rule of law is steadily moving forward.

When you dismiss the argument the way you just did, sure, it sounds ridiculous. But once you place these actions within a realistic framework of how power is exercised, the gravity of the situation becomes clear. When you use the term "private," you're implying that the owner can dictate every single rule arbitrarily, which simply isn't true. On a platform like this, constitutional and legal rights must hold weight. Even our own site rules suggest this, but currently, those rules are little more than ink on a page.

My goal here is to make my fellow users aware that if they feel they've been wronged based on the criteria I've mentioned, they are perfectly free to file a formal complaint with the appropriate regulatory agency. Once a report is filed, that agency is legally obligated to take action. And much like a corporation facing a federal audit, Reddit would be required to provide a full justification for its actions. Sometimes, a little extra paperwork is exactly what's needed to motivate people to actually implement change. 🙂
Aaron Jones87 Aaron Jones87 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Feb 2015
#4 ·
Does anyone know who I should contact to report someone for threatening to doxx me on Reddit?
I guess I could just report you, for example.☕
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#5 ·
Maria Johnson said:Does anyone know who I can reach out to here to report someone for threatening to doxx me on the forum?
I'd probably just report you instead!☕

Just hit that little triangle icon to report them.
neonfox12 neonfox12 MemberOP
17 messages
joined Nov 2014
#6 ·
Some updates regarding the forum. 🙂

Please feel free to file a report. 😉

P.S. I’d really appreciate it if we could keep this thread focused—please refrain from cluttering it with off-topic posts. Thanks in advance for understanding.

@rustydrifter10/">@@rustydrifter10... there's just no such thing as that kind of threat. 🙂
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#7 ·
neonfox12 said:Constitutional rights and legal protections have to apply on this forum just like they do anywhere else. We see it written right there in the community guidelines, but honestly, it feels like those rules are just sitting there gathering dust instead of actually being enforced.

Look, if you spot someone actually breaking the rules or violating the site's policies, just report them.
neonfox12 neonfox12 MemberOP
17 messages
joined Nov 2014
#8 ·
rustydrifter10 said:If you spot someone breaking the rules on a subreddit, just report them.

I've been scrolling through way too much content today, so I totally misread what you were getting at. My bad.

Got it. Will do. 🙂
Sophia Thomas7 Sophia Thomas7 Active Member
183 messages
joined Aug 2015
#9 ·
neonfox12 said:What you’re talking about isn't some kind of violation at all. You're basically trivializing my point here.

Since your take is just a snap judgment, don't lecture me.

neonfox12 said:It’s not about deleting posts; it's about how deleting them twists someone's actual stance and denies them the chance to explain themselves. Maybe there hasn't been a precedent for this yet, but the fact is, this happens on Reddit all the time. We didn't see this kind of thing in other media ten years ago, but nowadays we're constantly hearing denials and retractions. The rule of law is slowly moving forward.

There’s no precedent because if what you’re saying were actually true, anyone could sue over every single deleted comment. That's just not how things work. Generally speaking, the burden of proof lies with whoever claims their rights were violated by a deleted post. If that were the case, forums would be shutting down left and right, and unless a forum is a massive collection of hate speech or illegal content, nothing really happens.

neonfox12 said:I want to make sure fellow users know that if they feel wronged based on those criteria, they are free to file a report with the appropriate agency. By law, an agency has to act on every report. Reddit would then be required to provide an explanation for every single one. A little extra paperwork usually motivates people to change.🙂

Actually, no, they won't act, because that would mean they'd have to respond every time someone gets a post removed. In the end, the answer will just be: "If you don't like the forum or the people running it, you don't have to participate." Good luck with the filings. 🙂
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#10 ·
Well, it looks like this thread was basically designed to be a free-for-all of baseless accusations and digging up ancient history just for the sake of it. I’ve gone ahead and wiped those posts; moving forward, you can expect an immediate ban for that kind of behavior.

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