Please unlock this thread: Christianity is the only future – protected by Islam

Hey everyone!

I'm reaching out to ask if we can please unlock the thread titled "Christianity is the only future - only under Islam's protection":

I originally kicked this off back on May 1st, and honestly, I followed all the community guidelines to a T. I really laid it all out there—head, body, and tail—so there’s no question that the topic is substantive and actually makes sense. It presents a pretty specific perspective on certain religious movements and where they’re headed, plus it's got plenty of intrigue to get people talking...

Even so—and despite the fact that it’s been consistently sitting in the "top 5" most active threads in the Religion section with 79 posts—Grace Kim80 decided it needed to be locked, stating:

Too many warnings; the author is currently banned and racking up strikes, and the discussion itself isn't even that productive or educational.

So, the thread gets shut down. If anyone wants to talk about specific posts they find educational, they can just go find another thread to reply to. But only if it's actually constructive and meaningful stuff.

She claims the debate isn't productive or educational, but I totally disagree. It’s been incredibly fruitful because it brings up tons of new perspectives—like how we can strip away those modern, politically charged stigmas from things like the concept of Islamic governance. That kind of thing.

Plus, I’ve been backing up my points with quotes from the Bible, and—not to toot my own horn—my posts are basically interpretations of the Bible in its purest form. They focus on why it's necessary for original, fundamental Christianity to eventually merge with Islam as the only shield against the tide of modernism. Modernism is going to keep rolling on regardless, but for those who don't want any part of it, they have every right to find a sanctuary—just like small minorities have always done throughout history, finding places where they can live out their beliefs fully without looking over their shoulders.

As for the strikes, Grace Kim80 handed them out exclusively to me and another user who, by some weird coincidence, happened to be on the same side of the argument. Meanwhile, someone like Anthony Perez9 was throwing out ideas that were, let's just say, totally unverified and inaccurate, yet he sailed through without getting a single strike.

Seriously though, I’m making a real plea here—for the good of the forum and this whole community—that we allow this specific viewpoint to be discussed. It’s a perspective that’s never really been articulated here before, and I’m convinced it would be ignored due to a lack of understanding or people just retreating into their own selfish "religious bubbles." This thread is actually great soil for growth, and it's even more educational because you can see how Islam emerged within God's vision as a sort of protector for the little flock—the salt of the earth, essentially—which is the fundamental Christians.

I'm asking for some understanding and for the thread to be unlocked. I also want to suggest to whoever oversees Grace Kim80 that they might want to balance out the moderation criteria a bit. Citing and discussing the Bible and its teachings is still a fundamental right for any Christian, and the Bible hasn't exactly been declared a collection of hate speech, so maybe we could dial back the heavy-handed punishments that end up banning people.

So, yeah, I’m really asking for the above. Thanks!

I honestly hope this thread gets locked forever, given how pathetic the setup is.

It’s wild to me that Christians haven't pushed back harder on this. The OP is trying to "prove" that Christians—and by that, they mean fundamentalist fanatics, since they openly called themselves one—can best preserve their biblical values not here in the West, but in the most extreme Islamic states, where people are persecuted, women are forced into seclusion, and LGBTQ+ individuals face execution.

What other "wisdom" could possibly be squeezed out of a thread like this?
What kind of "humanitarian insight" are we even supposed to draw from this?

It’s been four whole days since I sent in my request to get this thread unlocked—which was shut down for absolutely no reason, by the way. Like I said from the jump, everything I posted follows the forum rules to a T and we're just talking about totally legitimate stuff here. It's all about those deep questions that basically everyone agrees on, unless you're one of those people who just can't handle anyone thinking differently than they do—you know, the types who need everyone to follow their specific creed just to feel comfortable.

So, yeah, I’m asking the mods once again to please take a look at my appeal. I really hope you guys can step in and protect the discussion from the trolls who aren't looking for actual tolerance—they just want total conformity when it comes to religion or pretty much anything else. Really looking forward to seeing this thread back open soon!

The thread won't open for you.

Here is the situation:
As the author of this thread, you essentially received a warning right in your opening post. That was enough to trigger a lock, because a problematic introduction is never a good starting point for a productive discussion. Dorian told me as much at the time.

I was actually the one who said, "Let's give this a chance; maybe it could turn into an interesting hypothetical debate." But clearly, that didn't happen. You triggered another warning using the exact same pattern, and then another user followed suit based on that same logic... and now we find ourselves debating the execution of homosexuals in Iran. I simply have no desire to constantly monitor a thread where the author themselves tends to push intolerance, which naturally leads others to follow their lead. You know exactly why you were warned.

That was my line in the sand regarding locking this thread.
I even asked Bubija if he wanted to keep the thread active and continue moderating it.
He stated that, as far as he is concerned, the thread can stay locked.

So, that is that.

Keep in mind that Dorian is traveling for another few days; once he returns, he can decide if he thinks the topic is excellent and wants to pursue it—if he chooses to unlock it, I won't object. However, in my view, this topic is flawed. It invites discriminatory and intolerant remarks, and it starts from entirely different premises: Christianity and Islam. Specifically, regarding so-called Islamic states where the social and religious order is diametrically opposed to Christianity, they are built on fundamentally different foundations. Discussing how Christianity might experience a second revival in Iran or similar nations is simply misplaced from the very beginning.

If you want to discuss parallels between Christianity and Islam, we have plenty of other threads for that.
Furthermore, no one is stopping you from starting a new thread about Christianity if there is something you want to discuss that isn't already in the index.

Today's world has plunged into hopelessness.

The world, and primarily the part known as Christian civilization, is being spread with and promoted

satanic teachings that run contrary to the New Testament,

which speak of the right to abortion, homosexuality as a sexual orientation...

allowing participation in the ranks of satanists who carry weapons and kill in the name of king, country, and people...

Right down to the point where they won't kill their unborn children and refuse to accept so-called tolerance, where nature's abominations or unnatural sexual relations among men, as the New Testament describes them, will be defined as a false orientation...

Satanists carry weapons and kill in the name of king and country, satanic teachings...
What exactly are you talking about? For instance, constructions like these are precisely why a thread gets closed.

Islamic societies, regardless of what evils they may contain—be it something like the Armenian genocide or violations of Quranic dictates that define Christians as a community that must be tolerated—are those currently closest to God's ideal, as they most consistently follow the New Testament ideal and provide the safest refuge for a Christian.

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from evils like nationalism,
false tolerance regarding so-called gender minorities,
the false equality of men and women and I won't list any more...

One last thing: denying the equality of men and women constitutes discrimination against an entire group based on gender. That borders on hate speech, which is precisely why you were flagged for excessive trolling. Furthermore, if we flipped the premise—saying there is a false equality between white and Black people, or between Jewish and German people, or between Romani children and everyone else... the nature of this argument would be painfully obvious. You also conveniently tucked a dismissal of the Armenian genocide into your post.

So, no, it’s not happening.
Besides, I have no idea what you hope to achieve with this topic. I have already pointed out the problematic parts in your warnings, and yet here I am repeating myself because you clearly believe you are right and that nothing in your posts is objectionable. This is just one more reason to shut this thread down.

And let me be clear: I don't intend to respond or debate further. This is my comprehensive response, given that you stubbornly refuse to back down and act as though you don't see where the issue lies.

Kevin Vaughn14 said:It has been four days since I submitted my request to unlock this thread, which was closed without cause. As I originally stated, this topic was opened in accordance with forum rules and customs, addressing legitimate issues and posing certain dilemmas that are indisputable, except perhaps to those who cannot tolerate a minority that thinks differently and those who simply wish to profess their faith according to their conscience.

Once again, I urge the moderators to look into my request and resist the attacks from those who demand conformity rather than tolerance, seeking exclusivity in religious and other matters alike. I look forward to the thread being unlocked.

Oh, so you are using this topic to profess your faith?
My apologies, it wasn't exactly apparent from what you wrote.
In fact, your posts are miles away from expressing any kind of faith; quite the opposite, they radiate hatred, intolerance, and discrimination. Are you truly certain that this is what "professing your faith" looks like? I find that hard to believe.

And I love your little logic flip: claiming that *we* are the ones unable to handle a dissenting minority, when in reality, *you* are the one throwing mud at the very minorities I am calling out.