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Formula 1 United States Grand Prix 2014 at Circuit of the Americas (4/19/2015)

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Ashley Ramirez4 Ashley Ramirez4 Active Member
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#61 ·
silvergull10 said:What do you mean 5 seconds?
1 Nico Rosberg Mercedes-Benz 1m34.647s
12 Fernando Alonso McLaren/Honda 1m36.191s 1.544s
That’s actually the smallest gap—and honestly, Button was struggling so much his time doesn't even really matter. Plus, their reliability still seems pretty sketchy.

Anyway, what kind of penalties do they actually hand out during practice? Is it just fines, or what? Apparently Kimi Räikkönen and Lewis Hamilton are under investigation for that pit lane exit issue, and Vettel is in the mix because of that collision with Sergio Pérez.

I was looking at the wrong data, which is why it seemed so weird to me 😁
silvergull10 silvergull10 Member
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#62 ·
The consensus seems to be that Sebastian Vettel was at fault here 🤔. It’s a bit tough for me to weigh in definitively since I wasn't watching the race live; I was just following the play-by-play updates. The word is that Sebastian made a questionable move—apparently due to a brake failure—even though Sergio Pérez caught him from behind. After all the heated back-and-forth, Seb actually went over to apologize to Sergio, so...
Drew Bennett68 Drew Bennett68 Regular
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#63 ·
jadeseal7 said:http://www.cnn.com/sport/0/formula1/32344121

Lewis Hamilton is claiming he can't feel any friction—it seems like Rosberg gave him a bit too much lubrication! 🙂

Too much lube, a total rookie mistake.

I've been hearing whispers that Ferrari has brought a brand new, upgraded machine for this race.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#64 ·
silvergull10 said:The word is Vettel was at fault 🤔. Hard to say since I wasn't actually watching—just following the live text updates. Apparently, Vettel messed up (brake failure?), even though Pérez hit him from behind. After all the drama, Seb actually went over to apologize to Pérez, so there you go...

Sure, Vettel did something stupid...
He pulled out of the pits, tried to brake, but the car just didn't respond...
He drifted way off the racing line, almost off the track entirely, and then Pérez collected him...
Though honestly, Pérez isn't innocent either; he was squeezing Jolton Dalton at that exact moment, so you had three cars fighting for one corner simultaneously...

Vettel probably only apologized because he was waving his finger at him earlier. 😬
And if I recall, he sounded like he called Pérez an idiot on the team radio...
It’s pretty unlikely he was apologizing for the contact when he’s clearly not the one to blame.
silvergull10 silvergull10 Member
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#65 ·
Here’s the video; apparently, Sergio Pérez said this

Nico Rosberg is absolutely shredding the Ferrari pace during the race. Whoever manages to grab pole tomorrow is going to be under massive pressure from Ferrari. Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing Lewis Hamilton step up for once; let him go toe-to-toe with Rosberg or Ferrari. It makes no difference to me.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#66 ·
Based on what we just saw today, neither of them is walking away with pole 😁
It’s a damn shame Sebastian Vettel has such low odds; he could’ve easily made a killing tomorrow 🤣
rowdyrider12 rowdyrider12 Member
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#67 ·
Wait, so what happened there? Did Kimi Räikkönen end up serving a penalty while Lujo didn't?
Grace Cruz Grace Cruz Newcomer
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#68 ·
Lewis Hamilton: Ferrari is a legitimate threat in Bahrain

The cold, hard facts: Nico Rosberg edged out Lewis Hamilton by a mere 0.115 seconds on pure lap times. Meanwhile, the Ferrari duo of Sebastian Vettel and Kimi Räikkönen sat roughly half a second adrift.

However, things shifted during the "race-simulation" stints—those heavy-fuel runs designed to test tire durability under actual racing conditions—where Ferrari actually looked faster.

When running on the "soft" compound, which is expected to be the primary tire for the race, Sebastian Vettel averaged a 0.6-second advantage per lap over Nico Rosberg.

It’s worth noting that Lewis Hamilton hasn't completed a comparable run on the soft tires yet. Plus, the teams aren't disclosing exact fuel loads, and we all know how much that weight fluctuates lap times.

http://www.cnn.com/sport/0/formula1/32360186
jadeseal7 jadeseal7 Active MemberOP
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#69 ·
rowdyrider12 said:Wait, so Kimi served his penalty but Lujo didn't?

What penalty are we even talking about?
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#70 ·
Jerry Moore61 said:Sebastian Vettel was averaging 0.6 seconds faster per lap than Nico Rosberg

Nico Rosberg is just a minor detail here, a mere distraction from the main point.

Lewis Hamilton is the one we're actually chasing, and he's the standard we're measuring against.
rowdyrider12 rowdyrider12 Member
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#71 ·
jadeseal7 said:What kind of penalty?


Perhaps some sort of formal warning, or maybe just a stern reprimand from a teacher... 🙂
But isn't the main point simply that he received one while Lujo did not?
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#72 ·
Jerry Moore61 said:Lewis Hamilton: Ferrari a serious threat in Bahrain

The reality: Nico Rosberg edged out Lewis Hamilton by just 0.115 seconds on pure lap times, while the Ferrari duo of Sebastian Vettel and Kimi Räikkönen trailed by about half a second.

That’s just plain wrong.😁
Honestly, the guy over at CNN is completely lost this weekend. He literally can't see basic stuff like who's on which tires or how many laps they've done.
Clearly, he's just staring at the Formula 1 app and assuming the total laps in FP2 equals the number of laps run on a specific tire set. 🤦

Vettel actually had a better combined S1 and S2 time than Hamilton and Rosberg, but he ran into a Red Bull Racing car🤣 right before hitting the final corner, which sent him sliding off track pretty hard. Because of that, his S3 was barely better than his time on mediums... though he did have the fastest S3 (on mediums) while two Mercedes cars on softs weren't even out yet. In that S3, he was even faster on mediums than Williams was on softs. 😁

Kimi also went wide in that last corner—not quite as bad as Vettel, but still—but even if Vettel had kept his pace in S3, he would've been faster than Hamilton and maybe only 0.0xx slower than Rosberg... and honestly, his strongest sector compared to Kimi was that S3.
Plus, on his second flyer, he was about 0.4 seconds faster than Kimi. 😉
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Basically, both Kimi and Vettel totally botched that one fast lap, and they were the first ones out on track when conditions were worse for everyone else.
All in all, I’m expecting a massive qualifying battle where the top four are within 0.100-0.200 of each other, provided nobody screws up. It shouldn't be a half-second gap.😉
Unless Mercedes is pulling some shady business hiding their true pace, which I highly doubt. 😁
Grace Cruz Grace Cruz Newcomer
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#73 ·
I honestly don't care if Ferrari takes the win. Really. 👍

It would only make the championship more interesting.
What I know for certain is that Mercedes ran through Free Practice 1 and Free Practice 2 with their tanks sitting at maybe 50-65%. What’s actually keeping them up at night right now is the tire degradation. Lewis Hamilton dealt with some minor issues there, and it's glaringly obvious that Ferrari is managing their tires much better. Just like we saw back in Malaysia.

Engine power and raw pace aren't the issue here. I know for a fact that everyone at Mercedes is pulling an all-nighter tonight, trying to figure out a fix for those tires.
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#74 ·
Jerry Moore61 said:I personally don't mind if Ferrari wins the race.

Nor do I, as long as it's the Ferrari #5.
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#75 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:I don't have any faith either, not as long as that's the #5 car from Ferrari.

And I wouldn't trust it if it were the #25 either.
wiredscout14 wiredscout14 Member
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#76 ·
http://www.cnn.com/sport/formula1/32352937

How on earth are they planning to sideline Lewis Hamilton 🤣
...
silvergull10 silvergull10 Member
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#77 ·
stormybadger8 said:It’s hard to apologize for contact when you aren't actually the one at fault.

Sebastian Vettel, who headed straight to the Force India garage to offer his apologies to Sergio Pérez, claimed the incident was caused by a mechanical issue with his brakes.

"I exited the garage and ran into trouble," he explained. "I applied the brakes, but there was a sudden failure, and I lost proper braking power. That's why I collided with Sergio Pérez in the corner. Naturally, I feel bad about it, but my hands were tied in that moment. I was looking for Sergio to tell him I was sorry, but he was still strapped into his car."
He really should have made it clear to him that it wasn't his fault. Given how much space the other driver moved to the right, you'd expect him to brake even harder to stay on the racing line, but he either suffered a malfunction or his brakes just weren't up to temp. He screwed up, but there was nothing to it. Pérez couldn't have known what was happening, and in the end, Vettel owned it, apologized, and closed the book on the argument.

But now, it looks like that supposed brake failure might actually be due to a loose wheel 🙂. It would be incredibly amateurish if they were so sloppy that they messed up a setup during practice—where a single second is everything—only to repeat the same blunder. Hopefully, they've tightened the bolts by now 😁.
However, reports suggest that Vettel might have had an improperly secured front wheel—which, if confirmed, could lead to a penalty for an unsafe release from the pits.

Fio will take another look at the matter on Saturday morning, when it will have the opportunity to gather and review further evidence.
Ashley Ramirez4 Ashley Ramirez4 Active Member
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#78 ·
And what’s Kimi actually complaining about? It's not like the car isn't behaving pretty well across the whole track, I guess.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#79 ·
farfan says:
Vettel, who immediately went to Force India's garage to apologise to Perez, said a problem with his brakes led to the incident.

Funny how the FIA investigated Perez instead of Vettel... clearly they thought he was the one at fault, if anyone was.
analogpilot16 analogpilot16 Member
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#80 ·
It’s going to be a fascinating race—looks like we'll have four drivers battling it out for the win.

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