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Is it a yellow card appeal or just straight-up deviance at the ZOO?

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Participants steelskipper132Nicole Morgan5Dennis Jackson38boldwalker12rustydrifter10
steelskipper132 steelskipper132 NewcomerOP
3 messages
joined Sep 2010
#1 ·
So I got a yellow card for this post because of how I was referencing the previous post in this thread.
The moderator's ruling is just straight-up misogynistic trolling, and honestly, she’s totally MIA on DMs—but whatever, I still have a few things to add.

It's pretty obvious my reference to the previous post—even if it didn't have quotes—should have made the analogy clear. I used the exact same terms; I started with girls and women and ended with "coincidence."
My post isn't trolling; it's just following a trolling spree about lecturing kids, which has nothing to do with the actual topic.
What really gets under my skin, though, is being accused of misogyny. That’s just insane. But then again, it seems to be the standard operating procedure for how these moderators handle things.
What I actually wrote was meant to be a jab at the vague stance taken in the previous post, where Kuki claims that guys need to be explained to that if they aren't careful, they can end up as "f***ed parties" with no way to fix it. Basically, that claim implies women make one-sided decisions—something they wouldn't dare call "100% of cases" without getting into the whole abortion debate.
My analogy was simply that things can also work out one-sidedly for women if they decide to stay home. It was all a reference to the author's point—so it's on topic. It was a joke triggered by some nonsense Kuki wrote. I mean, nobody ever expects hands to be 100% guaranteed, right?

Basically, the "female judiciary" decided that this was just my way of being a misogynistic troll, and that won't be tolerated.
Of course, all of this is happening under the guise of protecting women from the "haters" on this forum. This site should be about male-female relationships and marriage, and both genders should be equally involved (or so the Trumpian grammarians would say). On a forum like this, you shouldn't start with a built-in bias where women are always the defenders and men are automatically the attackers. Except during Separation, where men easily get trampled because the legal rhetoric gets so heated.
I don't believe equality can be maintained with an all-female moderation team unless there's a balance of power, but right now, it feels like they're just riding men. My impression is that female mods jump on the misogyny accusation way too often, and personally, I think that charge is massive and needs to be handled with more care.
I’d ask them to consider that sometimes harsh rhetoric from certain authors comes from a need to quickly open people's eyes and speed up the discussion. That should be respected, because not everyone has all day to hang out on a forum. I mean, you can't have 80% of the male participants suddenly turn "misogynistic," especially when there are already so few men talking here.
I get that allowing open dialogue might create more work, but labeling everything that favors a woman's perspective as "misogyny" isn't a solution to anything.
steelskipper132 steelskipper132 NewcomerOP
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joined Sep 2010
#2 ·
Hey, seriously, take down this ridiculous accusation—it’s actually written right here...
steelskipper132 steelskipper132 NewcomerOP
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joined Sep 2010
#3 ·
Five whole days...🙏🙏🙏
Nicole Morgan5 Nicole Morgan5 Member
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joined Sep 2010
#4 ·
I would say you completely missed the mark on the topic of 😬

Specifically, the whole issue regarding yellow card appeals.
steelskipper132 steelskipper132 NewcomerOP
3 messages
joined Sep 2010
#5 ·
The topic itself was actually pretty interesting, but I guess the actual content just totally missed the mark.😉
Dennis Jackson38 Dennis Jackson38 Member
34 messages
joined Feb 2011
#6 ·
steelskipper132, looking back at your recent contributions, it is abundantly clear that you have leveled several misogynistic remarks toward certain participants. These individuals approached the discussion seeking nothing more than advice and guidance, maintaining a perfectly civil tone, yet they were met with your tasteless commentary—remarks that seemed to imply an inherent fault simply because they are women. You proceeded to flood the threads with arguments built almost entirely upon these crude generalizations regarding gender.
This behavior persisted over several days across multiple threads. Initially, we exercised a degree of leniency, but once you began crossing established boundaries—and specifically because you disregarded warnings (you were cautioned twice without receiving a formal penalty in a very short window) and continued with this "showy" attitude—your penalties were issued. They were well-deserved, and frankly, they could have been even more severe.

Attempting to mask these statements with a winking emoji does not wrap them in any kind of charming cellophane, and it certainly won't help your case here.

Furthermore, your current line of reasoning—arguing that these penalties were issued solely because a "female moderation panel" identified your misogyny—is equally invalid. Once again, you are implying that our judgment is flawed due to our gender, and this time you’ve attempted to be subtle by mocking what you perceive to be the "weaker" sex.

Any user, regardless of their gender, would receive identical penalties for addressing any group in such a discriminatory manner through sweeping generalizations (whether that involves mocking women, men, the LGBTQ+ community, race, or any other protected characteristic). Such posts are strictly prohibited on this platform and result in immediate penalties; it is your responsibility to educate yourself by reading the community guidelines.

Despite being personally cautioned twice to temper your rhetoric, you chose to ignore those pleas and maintained the exact same tone. Consequently, you received penalties that any user would face for mocking fellow participants—especially those who came to us with modesty and politeness, continuing to engage respectfully despite your sexist provocations. It is the duty of the moderators to protect those who follow the rules and to ensure that decorum is maintained within the discourse.

In the last few days, I have noted that you have softened your rhetoric and are posting without these outbursts, which has had a positive impact on the quality of the discussion. It is evident that you are aware of where the line is drawn, given how much you have normalized your approach recently. If you continue on this path, things will remain fine. Of course, I must reiterate that this standard applies to every single participant; you are not an exception to the rule.

Since everything has been explained to you in exhaustive detail within this post, I see no reason for further debate.

I wish you pleasant discussions held in a positive spirit and in full compliance with the rules.
boldwalker12 boldwalker12 Active Member
101 messages
joined Jul 2010
#7 ·
Sarah Sanders34 pretty much covered it all, so I’ll just add my two cents:

Sarah Sanders34 said:You’ve actually toned down the rhetoric over the last few days and stopped posting those little "outbursts," which honestly makes the discussion way better. It’s pretty obvious you realize what’s cool and what isn't, since you've smoothed out your approach. Just keep it up and we’re golden.

There you go.
Moderation isn't about targeting someone based on their gender; it's about what they actually say. The post you're bringing up was just saying that if you don't want kids, you should handle your own contraception (which doesn't care about gender), while you were heading in a totally different direction. It has absolutely nothing to do with whether a woman wrote a flagged post or a guy got a yellow card. None of us are being biased here, and if anyone's worried, they can always take it to the higher-ups—who, by the way, happen to be women too—but trust me, that doesn't make their moderation any less fair or effective. 😉
steelskipper132 steelskipper132 NewcomerOP
3 messages
joined Sep 2010
#8 ·
You guys really should have waited longer before jumping in with responses—it would’ve been a total bloodbath in the comments for Mio and Drag here.🤦

The post I’m replying to basically claims men can just bark at the moon if they aren't careful about contraception, whereas I wrote that women who choose to stay home can actually prepare themselves for childbirth.
I even gave them an out 🤦, though, honestly, it was all just a joke.
After I posted, the author actually walked back her grand statement, and then ended up making an even stupider point in her final reply.
Yeah, and I made fun of that too.😵
If you guys don't find that funny, well, that's your loss.
Personally, I think it’s hilarious—including the fact that I’m apparently the only one getting rewarded for trolling this thread.

Sarah Sanders34, I’m taking my yellow card and warning, so maybe take another look at things? You seem to have lost your way somewhere. Also, don't try to pin the blame on women or the vulnerable by default, because that’s clearly just something you pulled out of thin air by stripping my words of their context—plus, you issued that warning only after a few other users posted some incredibly rigid takes.

What really bothers me about your "objective" moderation is that you haven't actually managed to facilitate a real dialogue, not even on the thread welcoming the six new moderators—specifically regarding the men.
Your main argument seems to be defending women from misogyny as if we were talking about a closed community in Iraq, rather than a general forum in a normal society where the vulnerable are protected by default. You still haven't explained why men aren't allowed access here, and somehow that remains a taboo subject.
At the exact same time, you're working against the forum and yourselves because you're practically inviting excess, all while promoting the idea that women can casually write about self-destructive behaviors in relationships. Protecting someone doesn't mean shielding those who call out that behavior.
I'm not going to rebel against the yellow card, but these accusations say everything about you and nothing about me.
boldwalker12 boldwalker12 Active Member
101 messages
joined Jul 2010
#9 ·
steelskipper132, honestly, it feels like your whole hang-up is just because the ZOO is being moderated by women. You’ve been whining about this ever since we brought on Alex—who, by the way, is a killer mod—so I don't get why you're still digging at the fact that six women are handling the moderation here.

Look, we pick mods based on whether they actually have the skills and the patience to do the job, not to fill some quota. We can't just conjure up a male mod for the ZOO out of thin air right now, and frankly, there's no reason we even need one.

I really hope we can put this to bed and get back to talking to each other without all this unnecessary drama.
Cheers!
steelskipper132 steelskipper132 NewcomerOP
3 messages
joined Sep 2010
#10 ·
Honestly, when you guys show such a complete lack of basic listening skills during a debate, I just can't believe it!

Death to misogyny—freedom for the forum users!
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
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joined Apr 2011
#11 ·
They definitely showed they were listening, though. And they made it crystal clear exactly where things are falling short.

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