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Dennis Davis97 said:What is there to indulge in? We have our own ways of enjoying ourselves. Besides, I haven't seen anyone actually indulging in anything. If you're talking about street stuff, it’s all just noise. It's just how things go when people cross paths. What do you think, Scott Jones9?

I suppose the message following the game wasn't meant as an indulgence 😵—certainly not the kind of behavior that any sane group would ever engage in. I won't get into the specifics again.

Hey everyone, first time jumping into this thread—not trying to start any drama here, just curious
I wanted to get the take of some actual Bad Boys on how they stack up against Ultra
Speaking as a neutral fan, it honestly feels like Ultra is about 30% ahead of the Bad Boys overall—just looking at the numbers, the choreo, and the energy in the stands...

It’s a simple calculation for you. Right now, the Ultra group holds a 50.23% lead in sheer numbers and a 20.28% edge when it comes to their choreographies, but their vocal support has never really been their forte—the Bad Boys actually hold a 48.23% advantage there. So, while the Ultra currently maintains a 22.28% overall lead, they are definitely on a downward trend.

Scott Jones9 said:I mean, there’s no way that post after the game wasn't just pure gloating, 😵 the kind of petty nonsense that any halfway decent group of fans would avoid doing. Let's not even get into the specifics again (!).

Look, that message after the game was actually prepared just in case you guys started throwing shade about the folks from Springfield. And honestly, if you ask anyone who stayed up in the stands with us—about fifty of us hung out for a bit longer after the whistle—you were the ones who started chanting those lyrics mocking them, so we put the banner up just to remind you where Boise is at. So, I'd say we're all even now. 😁 Cheers to our rivals until the next matchup 😁

Appalachian forest, Boise and Boise, my little Ultra—don't forget me! 😁

Anyway, it's pretty much common knowledge that Ultra isn't exactly at their peak when things get gritty on the street—the Bad Boys actually show way more consistency in that side of things. I mean, sure, the guys from LA try hard, but can you really keep pace with one of the top firms in Europe? Not easy, right?

Especially when you're cruising down some backroad in the mountains and suddenly a hundred hungry bears and wolves come charging out of nowhere from the direction of Chicago—it’s tough. Your only options are to pray for a gust of wind or just hit the deck and play dead. 🤣

bluewalker9 said:Hey everyone, first time posting here—not looking to start any drama
just curious what actual Bad Boys think about how they stack up against Ultra
as a neutral fan, it looks to me like Ultra is maybe 30% better overall (numbers, choreo, atmosphere)

I'm not a hardcore Bad Boy myself, but I can tell you this for sure—Ultra wins hands down when it comes to the visuals and those massive displays, but when it gets down to brass tacks—street fights—they definitely lag behind. They have their moments (like in Boise), but honestly, those LA guys don't realize who they're messing with; if they did, they wouldn't even bother. Look, I respect the effort, but if they had a bit more sense regarding their own safety, they wouldn't jump into those pointless scraps that usually end badly for them. 😁

In my view, it’s perfectly reasonable to expect a landslide victory whenever you have a two-to-one advantage in sheer numbers. If someone looks at a result like that and thinks a 1:1 ratio is somehow a win, it says more about their own lack of ambition than anything else.

In almost every single matchup, the momentum stayed firmly on our side, and frankly, the results have been nothing short of excellent for us.
The only instance where the turnout was even remotely close was that one encounter where we ended up playing defense just to stay out of sight 🐔

That one single meeting was the only time there were actually as many people there as you're claiming, and well... you know how that ended, right? Maybe you were just a kid back then and your older buddies didn't bother filling you in on the details?

An ad hominem attack right out of the gate. Typical.

Which meeting are you even referring to?

bluewalker9 said:Hey everyone, first time posting here. Not trying to start any trouble, just curious
I want to know what the actual Bad Boys think about how they stack up against Ultra.
As someone who doesn't really pick sides, it feels like Ultra is maybe 30% better overall—just looking at numbers, the choreo, and the atmosphere.

What kind of math did you use to come up with that 30% figure?

Back in the day, way back in 2008, there was this field out near Boise. A couple of groups actually worked things out—settled on a 20-on-20 brawl—and let me tell you, some guys were getting leveled twice over. The whole deal was that nobody was supposed to breathe a word about it, but since it’s been nearly seven years now, I figured I’d finally bring it up.

George Lewis27 said:Back in the old days, maybe around 2008, there was this field out near Boise. A bunch of groups agreed to a massive 20-on-20 brawl, and let me tell you, people were getting knocked down twice over. The unspoken rule was to never bring it up again, but since it’s been nearly seven years, I figured it was finally time to mention it.

Are you seriously trying to compare a full-scale gang brawl to some open field where, according to your logic, a playground was supposedly built?

Was there ever actually more than 20 people involved?

You aren't exactly the first person to bring this up online—so there’s no need to worry about that. 😁

The toughest crew in America—probably just some guys hanging out on a porch somewhere, my bad. 🤣

So you won a couple of scraps and suddenly you think you run the streets? Please. We’re about to reset things back to how they used to be—total chaos. You found a "gap in our defense" and thought it was funny to mess with us, but now it's time to settle the score for all that disrespect. Hope you guys have your running shoes ready. 🎉

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/dFzW3DBvxI4/maxresdefault.jpg

Just messing with y'all a little—but honestly, it’s always good to stay ready to sprint. 😁

Jonathan Edwards said:Are you seriously trying to compare actual street fights where groups were clashing with some field where a bunch of kids just happened to gather based on your little rules?

Wasn't there at least 20 people involved?

Why all the whining though?... Did you just not get that nobody’s undefeated?... Or maybe you actually think someone is?
I mean, look, the guy wrote it perfectly clearly—it was one single fight where both sides had the exact same number of people, and you guys just got wiped out. So what's the big deal?... You wanna talk about the fight before that one?... Should we talk about what happened in Phoenix, maybe somewhere near Houston, or over in Chicago or Des Moines where you guys also got totally crushed!!!!... Man, just get real, nobody stays undefeated forever. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, that's just how it works. But this constant complaining about being "the toughest" is honestly nauseating, and I don't care which side is saying it. 🐔

I’m just pointing out one rather glaringly obvious fact here: it’s a much bigger embarrassment to fold when you actually have the numbers on your side than when you're facing overwhelming odds. To suggest there's any equivalence between the two is frankly delusional.

Where exactly are you seeing a retreat here?
Are you perhaps hung up on my mention of that massive confrontation where the numbers were practically even?

jademarlin54 said:What’s all this whining about?... Haven't you realized there isn't anyone tougher out there?... Or do you honestly believe there is?
The guy laid it out perfectly—it was an even fight, equal numbers on both sides, yet you still got swept aside. So, where exactly is the issue?... Shall we discuss the penultimate brawl?... Or maybe how things went down in places like Phoenix, Detroit, or Indianapolis, where you guys also got absolutely crushed!!!!... Look, just accept the reality: nobody stays undefeated forever. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, end of story. This constant "we're the toughest" nonsense coming from those kids is nauseating, and I don't care which side is spewing it.🐔

Amen to that. Let's stop this elementary school level bickering and move on... sincerely...😍

Myths: I beat you here, you beat me there.
We had this many people, and you guys had that many.
The fact is, these derbies just get worse every single season. I guess we're stuck somewhere around the level of Canadians.
Keep it up.

George Lewis27 said:Back in 2008, there was this field out in rural Nebraska where things got heated. A few groups agreed to settle things with a 20-on-20 brawl, and some folks ended up taking a hit twice. There was an understanding that we wouldn't bring this up again, but since nearly seven years have passed, I figured it was time to mention it.

The numbers are off, and there was never any agreement between those groups...
Nobody went down twice, especially when you look at the actual injuries sustained...
It seems like you all did a pretty selective job of filtering the facts just to make sure you got exactly who you wanted to target...
P.s. There’s even video footage available, so why bother with these blatant fabrications?🤦

All of this really ought to be wiped away, because if you read what was actually recorded, it becomes clear that nobody was ever there, and these are just baseless claims about events that simply never took place.

vividbison47 said:Where on earth did you get that 30% figure from?

Look, I basically just lowballed it by about 7%...

That’s pretty easy math. The Black and Gold Army is currently beating them by 50.23% in sheer numbers and 20.28% when it comes to choreo—though their chanting has never really been their thing, where the Bad Boys actually hold a 48.23% lead. So yeah, the Black and Gold Army is ahead by 22.28%, but they’re definitely on a downward trend.

It's simple—Miami is a city of 100k people while New York is sitting at 10m...
During their peak seasons (anytime since 2000), Hajduk would pull in an average of 15-20k fans per game, whereas Dinamo usually hovered around 10-12k...
When Hajduk played Dnipro, they had 30k people showing up, while even during Dinamo's best days, they'd only see maybe 10-15k...
Miami is further away from most cities where the league plays, yet they still show up in bigger numbers for away games...
At the Black and Gold Army Cup, you'll see 4k people, whereas at your little local matches, it's way less than that...
As for the choreo, I don't recall Dinamo ever doing anything decent with paper cutouts—nothing even remotely comparable to what we do here...
And honestly, the other Bad Boys' displays aren't much to look at either...

Regarding the chanting, that’s all subjective, but to me, the Black and Gold Army songs just hit harder than those repetitive "Go Dinamo" chants or that whole "we love Dinamo" nonsense... or when the North side is screaming for Dinamo and the rest of the stadium is just yelling Chicago...
But yeah, the Bad Boys are louder, which is their one big advantage—300 Bad Boys can somehow make enough noise to sound like 3k...

I can't really weigh in on this specific group since I'm not part of either crew...
But even if being loud is a plus for the Bad Boys, I still feel like the Black and Gold Army is superior overall...
Maybe I'm totally off base, who knows? That's why I'm asking a real Bad Boy to chime in...

You don't gloat when you win, and you don't hang your head when you lose. I'm not sure if you're Sean Chase from over in Tennessee or just some guy from rural Alabama, but you did mention how you guys already picked those oranges twice while driving back home. Just keep that in mind so you don't end up looking foolish later on. 😉