Paul Gonzalez
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joined Nov 2014
Hey Bad Boys... I’m looking for some intel regarding the group's mentality and identity back in the nineties.
Back in the late eighties and early nineties, the look of the stands was—honestly—way more aesthetic than what happened later in the decade. Let me break it down: during that stretch, banners were actually organized with some sense of order, you knew which ones were the main statements, and everyone stuck to those classic ultra-style fonts. There weren't nearly as many random patches everywhere. Looking at old photos, it seems like around 1994, there was this massive surge in printing patches for every little neighborhood, small town, or suburb without any rhyme or reason or rules. In some shots I've seen, certain banners would only show up for maybe a single game—like, say, "B.B.B. Small Town Crew" (just an example). Then from 1996 through 2000, you see all those American flags with slogans popping up everywhere, especially during away trips to places like Miami, Budapest, Bratislava, or even Milan.
I'm really curious about the reason behind this shift in the "design" of the stands? Was it because of changes in leadership, or did people just stop giving a damn about how things looked? At the start of the nineties, based on what I can gather from photos, the group was deep in that authentic supporter scene—something that seemed to resurface around 2004, at least when it comes to banner placement and design. Everything in between feels... I don't know, kind of amateurish? For instance, during that middle period, the Boys didn't even have basic scarves. I say that because I know plenty of the older guys back then used to travel to Italy for games; they followed the scene, traveled to foreign matches, big derbies... So, you couldn't exactly say there were "football illiterate" fans in the group at that time. I guess I'm just wondering why they drifted away from that early nineties ultra vibe?
I've been working on a supporter retrospective for quite a while now, so I'm trying to dig up some info on the American scene. For example, it's interesting that the first small banners in the US started appearing with Unknown, as well as the basic scarves, while the Burberry checkered caps seem to have first appeared with the Boys around 2001 and 2002—which became a total must-have staple in this part of the world a few years later.