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Australian Grand Prix (Los Angeles - Central Park) 03.26.2017

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stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#281 ·
northerncobra31 said:You seemed pretty certain Vettel would take pole.

It's a good thing you won't tell me what you're betting on; I like keeping my money.

That guy Palmer certainly has guts making claims like that. He's lucky he's even still in F1 after last season, where he couldn't finish a single weekend without spinning out or hitting something.

That clown never deserved to be in Formula 1 in the first place.🤦
Honestly, those Sky Sports guys are the best. I don't know what kind of madness drives them to defend a driver like him, let alone praise him just because he managed to actually cross the finish line.🤣
neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#282 ·
stormybadger8 said:Just realized I completely screwed myself thanks to Richie 😳
I can predict just about anything except for that clown Richie landing in the top 8 🤦

If only Doug had rooted for him until the end of his career 😠

How on earth did you miss that, especially after you claimed Renault was faster than Red Bull? 😂
northerncobra31 northerncobra31 Active Member
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#283 ·
stormybadger8 said:That clown never deserved to be in Formula 1 in the first place.🤦
Honestly, those Sky Sports guys are the best. I don't know what kind of madness drives them to defend a driver like him, let alone praise him just because he managed to actually cross the finish line.🤣

It’s awful; I honestly think he’ll be out of the sport pretty soon.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#284 ·
It’s pretty interesting that for three straight seasons, Hamilton and Vettel were driving the two fastest cars—one Ferrari, one Mercedes—at the US Grand Prix.
Makes for a decent little comparison over those last three years...

Ferrari's gap to Meck 2015:
Hamilton 1:26.327
Vettel 1:27.757
- 1.430

Ferrari's gap to Meck 2016:
Hamilton 1:23.837
Vettel 1:24.675
- 0.838

Ferrari's gap to Meck 2017:
Hamilton 1:22.188
Vettel 1:22.456
- 0.268

That gap is shrinking, and fast, too. 😁
Even if they don't catch them this season, they definitely will if this trend keeps up...
neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#285 ·
It’s about how you develop through the season, not just how you nail that first race. And right now, Ferrari isn't exactly thriving—they lost ground to Red Bull Racing last year and ended up in third... which means they've actually slipped behind where they were back in 2015.
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#286 ·
neonfox65 said:It’s about how you develop through the season, not just how you nail that first race. And right now, Ferrari isn't exactly thriving—they lost ground to Red Bull Racing last year and ended up in third... which means they've actually slipped behind where they were back in 2015.

They didn't actually regress during the season. It's more that certain variables—unrelated to the car itself—just didn't align. They essentially threw away a massive amount of points through pure incompetence and questionable decisions from the pit wall.
copperdrifter26 copperdrifter26 Active Member
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#287 ·
neonfox65 said:It’s about how you develop through the season, not just how you nail that first race. And right now, Ferrari isn't exactly thriving—they lost ground to Red Bull Racing last year and ended up in third... which means they've actually slipped behind where they were back in 2015.

I’m not so sure about that; I feel like people tend to overstate the importance of seasonal development. Red Bull Racing was already neck-and-neck with Ferrari back in China, and then by Barcelona, they brought in the new engine and out-qualified them. It doesn't seem like they brought massive upgrades to the car last year; to me, it looked more like Ferrari struggled with tire management across different temperatures rather than falling behind due to poor development.

BTW, Tibi, Sebastian Vettel might think he missed out on pole, but if you watch the onboard lap in S2, he lost it by a hair. He actually lost at least a hundredth in one corner because he hit the throttle a little too early, which made the rear end dance around quite a bit. Same thing in S1—he seemed to make a tiny mistake in turn 3. All in all, this track really demands mechanical grip and a punchy engine. Personally, I think Mercedes has at least a hundredth advantage in both those areas, though Ferrari seems to have the edge on aero.

We’ve got an interesting season ahead of us, especially looking forward to Bahrain! 🙏
Drew Bennett68 Drew Bennett68 Regular
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#288 ·
William Bennett53 said:Taking everything into account, Romain Grosjean was excellent, and seeing Haas in such good form is a pleasant surprise. That little guy at Sauber was fantastic, too; honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if his performance today earned him a serious look for a more permanent seat.
The dominance shown by Mercedes and Hamilton isn't exactly a shocker, but it is incredibly demotivating to watch. I’m just hoping Vettel can get a decent start tomorrow.
Bottas, Stoffel Vandoorne, and Kimi all underperformed, while Jolyon Palmer was frankly embarrassing. As for Lance Stroll, he didn't even fail—he simply performed exactly as expected.

The first Italian in Formula 1 since Brazil 2011 (Jarno Trulli and Vitantonio Liuzzi).
Drew Bennett68 Drew Bennett68 Regular
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#289 ·
stormybadger8 said:http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2017/03/2...-in-the-race/?

There it is. Like I said, Ferrari just didn't have the pace for pole...
Sebastian Vettel says he could've squeezed out a slightly faster lap, but definitely not enough to change anything...

This marks Ferrari's first front-row lockout since Singapore 2015.
neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#290 ·
What's the word on changing Rick's gearbox? 🤔
neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#291 ·
It says here that Rick is starting 10th.

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-result...-1-grand-prix/

Max might just dive into that first corner and mess things up for someone—he did say this race was looking pretty boring...😁
Susan Jones8 Susan Jones8 Member
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#292 ·
mellowtiger83 said:Well, here he is. He put his money on $333 Alonso - Perez and won, though it was hardly a massive windfall.🙂

It’s not exactly a total disaster, though I guess I was personally expecting a bit more of a gap between them.
I'm telling you, it's 600. Personally, I'd say that. $50 .
Man, I totally missed the boat on Rosberg’s retirements. That’s exactly where I blew my bankroll. 👎
We'll just have to wait and see if tomorrow finally puts an end to Rich's losing streak. 🤔 I guess I'm hoping so. 😁
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#293 ·
neonfox65 said:It’s about how you develop through the season, not just how you nail that first race. And right now, Ferrari isn't exactly thriving—they lost ground to Red Bull Racing last year and ended up in third... which means they've actually slipped behind where they were back in 2015.

That’s just plain wrong...
It’s not that Ferrari regressed; they just had a mountain of trophies and some incredibly stupid pit wall decisions. Based on what we saw today, they were clearly smarter than Red Bull Racing because they shifted their resources toward the 2017 car and Power Unit way ahead of schedule...
Meanwhile, Red Bull Racing and especially Renault kept pushing upgrades until the very end, so it’s no surprise they caught up last year. Honestly, though, it looks like a massive blunder on their part—a total Pyrrhic victory, considering how hard they're hitting this season.
neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#294 ·
It’s not the shine—it’s the neck🙄
neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#295 ·
stormybadger8 said:That’s just plain wrong...
It’s not that Ferrari regressed; they just had a mountain of trophies and some incredibly stupid pit wall decisions. Based on what we saw today, they were clearly smarter than Red Bull Racing because they shifted their resources toward the 2017 car and Power Unit way ahead of schedule...
Meanwhile, Red Bull Racing and especially Renault kept pushing upgrades until the very end, so it’s no surprise they caught up last year. Honestly, though, it looks like a massive blunder on their part—a total Pyrrhic victory, considering how hard they're hitting this season.

Renault actually stopped developing their engine halfway through the season—they didn't even burn through all their remaining tokens. They shifted their whole focus toward a new engine concept instead. Meanwhile, Red Bull Racing can develop two cars in parallel because they actually have the resources to pull it off.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#296 ·
neonfox65 said:It’s not the shine—it’s the neck🙄

If you'd rather see Red Bull sacrifice this season just to be second place next year, fine, great idea.👍
Personally, I'd much rather see Ferrari focus on developing this year's car and PU like they did last year, which is why they're actually fighting Meck right now. I don't care if Red Bull had won a few more races last year if it meant being totally screwed today like a bunch of idiots...
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#297 ·
neonfox65 said:It says here that Rick is starting 10th.

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-result...-1-grand-prix/

Max might just dive into that first corner and mess things up for someone—he did say this race was looking pretty boring...😁

Here you go again, acting like you actually know anything about Formula 1.🤦

Here’s your link...
http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formul...information-19

Until it shows up at 10th on the official starting grid, nothing is set in stone.
That thing you posted isn't even the official qualifying results, let alone the grid.

Chances are he trashed the gearbox. Given how loud that bang was, a replacement is almost a certainty...
Even if they can swap it out, I wonder if it's even worth the risk for this race and the ones coming up.
Amy Castillo4 Amy Castillo4 Active Member
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#298 ·
William Bennett53 said:I personally hope that, for the sake of those of us who truly love this sport, neonfox65 will start rooting for Mercedes sometime soon.

🤣 😁
neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#299 ·
stormybadger8 said:If you'd rather see Red Bull sacrifice this season just to be second place next year, fine, great idea.👍
Personally, I'd much rather see Ferrari focus on developing this year's car and PU like they did last year, which is why they're actually fighting Meck right now. I don't care if Red Bull had won a few more races last year if it meant being totally screwed today like a bunch of idiots...

Who said that...? 🤦

I’m honestly much happier that Ferrari jumped straight into developing this year's car and PU last year—seeing them actually give Meck a run for their money now is huge. Meanwhile, Red Bull Racing can't even touch them... if they hadn't just grabbed a couple of wins last season and thought they were set, they wouldn't be in this mess right now. They're totally cooked...

It’s easy for Ferrari when they actually have the right engines—they’re solid. But the massive headache for Red Bull Racing is definitely their power unit... specifically dealing with Renault. If Red Bull could just snag a Mercedes or a Ferrari engine, they'd be running away with it—but it looks like those guys were too chicken to hand over their tech... ☕
neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#300 ·
stormybadger8 said:Here you go again, acting like you actually know anything about Formula 1.🤦

Here’s your link...
http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formul...information-19

Until it shows up at 10th on the official starting grid, nothing is set in stone.
That thing you posted isn't even the official qualifying results, let alone the grid.

Chances are he trashed the gearbox. Given how loud that bang was, a replacement is almost a certainty...
Even if they can swap it out, I wonder if it's even worth the risk for this race and the ones coming up.

ESPN just posted the grid too and he's listed at 10th, so we'll see. Either way, Renault is slower than them anyway.👋

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