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Complaint against moderator Deedy on MK

Started by gentlegull93 · · 👁 4 views · 11 replies

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Participants gentlegull93rustydrifter10Aaron Harris2slynomad14Amanda Diaznorthernpilot2William Bennett53
gentlegull93 gentlegull93 NewcomerOP
5 messages
joined Jan 2013
#1 ·
Every single time I try to criticize or even just bring up Aaron Harris2, he wipes my post clean. And to top it all off, he hits me with a warning for trolling. What’s the funniest part is when I actually try to be civil and carefully word my post to avoid any issues... I'll post a thread full of MK jokes, trolling, and off-topic nonsense and get nothing, but then I write one serious, normal post and suddenly I'm flagged for trolling. It seems like the only posts he actually deletes are the ones where I'm clearly calling him out, while all that other garbage stays up without a single warning... It honestly feels like he's running some kind of dictatorship, clearing anyone who disagrees with him off the streets just to make it look like everything is perfectly fine.

Here's how it went down:
Aaron Harris2 was playing this tough guy act, trying to tell women on MK what their place was in the "What did you do today as a real man?" thread, even though nobody actually cared as long as they weren't clogging up the chat. But then they ended up absolutely tearing him a new one—props to them for standing their ground—and he decided to shut down that thread, which was one of the few decent topics we had, just to open a new one called "What did you do today as a real man or as an MK tough guy?" because apparently, according to him, it's only okay for them to post once a week, even though half of them do more "manly" work than most of the guys here... 🤣
It felt so pathetic and honestly just infuriating because that was my favorite topic on MK, so I just wrote:

Aaron Harris2...

And he deleted it.

When I saw he’d wiped my post, I sent him this on CHATU:

Aaron Harris2, seriously, stop deleting my posts. It wasn't a big deal before, but after this, don't you dare.
I actually used to have some respect for you.

Then he flags me for trolling on CHATU and, of course, deletes the post.
How exactly am I trolling?

The next day I show up to find I've been flagged, so I write this on the chat:
I thought about filing a formal complaint against Aaron Harris2 with the PŽK, but I decided against it. It’d be a waste of time and I wouldn't achieve anything anyway.

Now I see why so few people around here actually like him.

And once again, he flags me for trolling and deletes the post so nobody sees it. How am I trolling? I even mentioned on the chat not to go off-topic... How? Where is the logic in that? I just don't get it.

I’m demanding that these flags be removed and that Aaron Harris2 stops wiping my posts; if he thinks I deserve a flag, fine, let him give me one, but stop deleting my content unless it's absolutely necessary.

I expect an answer from Aaron Harris2 and from someone above him. Thanks.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#2 ·
Just looking at this post of yours, it’s pretty obvious to me that you’re taking your issues with the moderation team to places where they don't belong. That isn't how we do things here; we actually have an entire PDF dedicated specifically to the appeals process—it's right here—so you really should have started a new thread in this section instead. You need to lay out exactly what happened, explain the situation clearly, and include some links so we can actually see what you're talking about.
Aaron Harris2 Aaron Harris2 Member
41 messages
joined Jan 2008
#3 ·
To put it plainly: your posts consist entirely of critiquing moderator decisions, which is strictly prohibited according to our established community guidelines. Furthermore, any appeal regarding moderation actions must be submitted through the official appeals thread located above, rather than by creating a separate thread dedicated to attacking me personally.
The closure or modification of threads is handled at the discretion of the moderators, as that is precisely the core responsibility of our role.
The content you have had deleted or penalized falls into one of two categories: either it is a direct commentary on moderator conduct or it is outright trolling intended to cause malicious disruption. Neither of these behaviors is permitted under any circumstances.

My recommendation is quite simple: please stick to the actual topics within the threads. Refrain from discussing moderation on the forums, and do not bring this up in the chats either, as there isn't a single corner of this platform that isn't moderated—if you follow the rules, you won't have an issue. Additionally, I suggest you stop focusing your criticisms on me when you are working on the PDF, as that is absolutely not allowed.
There really is no need for this behavior. Simply engage with the subject matter of the threads, and we will see each other over at MK. I will reiterate one last time: purge the malice from your descriptions just as you did when you first arrived here.
Best regards,
gentlegull93 gentlegull93 NewcomerOP
5 messages
joined Jan 2013
#4 ·
Look, you’re right that my second post—and it was only my second—was about criticizing the moderation, but I didn't think anyone would take it that seriously or push it this far... people vent to mods all the time when things aren't quite right, it's just how it goes. And if you’re going to slap me with a strike for that post, fine, I'll take it, just let's move past it so we can actually talk...

My other two posts weren't doing anything wrong either, and they definitely weren't "trolling" like you're claiming I was getting points for, so honestly, it kind of stings when you dismiss me like this, Aaron Harris2.

Stop bringing up my critiques of the PDF rules, because that's clearly off-limits over there.

If criticizing your moderation isn't allowed, then tell me, is criticizing you allowed?
Aaron Harris2 Aaron Harris2 Member
41 messages
joined Jan 2008
#5 ·
I suspect you are merely critiquing my hairstyle on these threads simply because you have never actually seen it in person. If that were the case, I wouldn't find it an issue. However, your posts are nothing more than a chaotic blend of low-effort trolling and blatant violations of the community guidelines... and frankly, both behaviors carry the exact same weight in my eyes.
I suggest you cease this behavior immediately; I noticed you were even back on the main forum this morning, making passive-aggressive comments regarding the moderation team—trying to maintain a conciliatory tone just to avoid getting flagged—but I will not tolerate such games. I am offering you a choice: start contributing to the discussions with a positive attitude and actually add value to the topics at hand. I am certainly not a subject of discussion on those boards, and I expect the same courtesy. I sincerely hope we can move past this and maintain a civil relationship on the forums, especially since you will never be a topic of my concern there, and I trust you won't make me a target of yours in my capacity as a moderator.
slynomad14 slynomad14 Newcomer
6 messages
joined May 2012
#6 ·
Aaron Harris2
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The thread is locked until us moderators can sit down and figure out what we're going to do about her... thanks for bearing with us.
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ad Aaron Harris2, there's really no need for a formal meeting to decide on this...

you already gave me a heads-up about the partial payment months ago, back when I was just getting back into the swing of things at MK...

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gentlegull93 gentlegull93 NewcomerOP
5 messages
joined Jan 2013
#7 ·
Aaron Harris2 said:I doubt you're actually criticizing my hair on the forums, since you don't even know what it looks like, so if that were the case, it wouldn't even be an issue...

No, I'm not, but judging by your posts, I can tell exactly what kind of person you are, and just like everyone else who gets on my nerves, I'm telling you exactly where to go...

Aaron Harris2 said:Your posts are nothing but a mess of trolling and breaking the community guidelines... and both earn you the same amount of points.
Watch yourself, because I saw you lurking on the main boards this morning making those snide little comments about how things are moderated—trying to act all calm just so you don't get banned—but I'm not letting that slide. I'm giving you the chance to actually contribute something positive to the discussions instead of just being a nuisance. I'm never the subject of any thread over there, and I hope we can just stay out of each other's way from now on, because since you aren't going to make me a target, I'm certainly not going to make you one as a moderator...


You claim you want us to be fine, yet at the same time you keep accusing me of trolling, hiding behind these critiques of the moderation team, and basically trying to make a fool out of me...
slynomad14 slynomad14 Newcomer
6 messages
joined May 2012
#8 ·
just like I said back then

stop posting your little tragedies on MK

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Amanda Diaz Amanda Diaz Active Member
74 messages
joined Jan 2009
#9 ·
I have a pretty decent memory, so I clearly remember when moderator Aaron Harris2 posted on MK that we aren't supposed to go to the PŽK corner to whine—that we should handle things ourselves instead. Interesting logic, isn't it? If you complain about him on the PŽK, you're just being a whiner who should have settled it privately. But if you actually write out what’s wrong with his behavior, your post gets deleted along with a few condescending remarks just to remind everyone who really runs the house.
gentlegull93 gentlegull93 NewcomerOP
5 messages
joined Jan 2013
#10 ·
I honestly thought this was supposed to be a laid-back subforum where we could actually act like men, you know, trading insults and swearing a bit like a normal group of guys would... but apparently, you can't even mention this Quarkov without someone jumping in to defend his moderation style and stepping in to save him.

rustydrifter10, seriously, now that Aaron Harris2 has spoken his piece, why don't you go ahead and give me your actual take on my three posts and how Aaron Harris2 handled them? But this time, try being a little more direct and specific about it. In your last post, you claimed I was criticizing the moderation, but you didn't say where or how, and you didn't mention if I was actually trolling—which is the whole reason I got those penalties—or anything regarding the deleted posts, unless that's not relevant to you.
If you have questions or if anything is unclear, just say the word.

I want you to get your hands dirty too.
northernpilot2 northernpilot2 Active Member
201 messages
joined Oct 2013
#11 ·
Look, you brought up moderation issues in a space where that's just not allowed, so you got hit with cards—short and sweet.
If you actually want to file a formal complaint about something, you should be using the PŽK system for stuff like this, which is basically what you did by starting this thread. Trying to go hunting through PDFs or old threads just to call out a moderator? That’s not going to fly anywhere on this forum, not even over at MKu, regardless of whether it happened in the chat threads or not.

I took a look back at your posts, and honestly, I could see them as just straight-up trolling, which is why Aaron Harris2 handed out those penalties, or I could view them as breaking the specific rules of this sub-forum. Either way, you're breaking the rules. It’s ultimately up to the moderator to decide how many cards to hand out, so as far as I'm concerned, those cards are staying right where they are.
William Bennett53 William Bennett53 Regular
491 messages
joined Sep 2016
#12 ·
Every relevant agency has voiced its position, so we can consider this matter officially closed. 😉

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