2014 Monaco Grand Prix

stormybadger8 said:Then they wouldn't have acted so shady about it...

To be honest, it isn't even clear why there was a yellow flag in the first place.🤷
Nico Rosberg was way off the track—realistically, they could have just proceeded without waving anything at all...🤷

I honestly don't know either. 🤷 But in my opinion, he should have just left the car parked where it was; it looked more like an accidental mishap to me, so... I'm hearing now that there's an investigation underway, but I truly believe the verdict will just be a simple driver error rather than some intentional move to block anyone. As for that yellow flag? It seems pretty ridiculous to me, regardless.

Daniil Kvyat is completely in the dark about being under investigation—he hasn't heard a single word regarding any supposed "incident" yet 🤣🤣

stormybadger8 said:They wouldn't have had to wave it so frantically if things were handled correctly...

Bottom line? It’s completely unclear why they even threw out a yellow flag in the first place.🤷
Nico Rosberg was way off the track, and honestly, they could have cleared it without any waving at all...🤷

Look, the flag had to be waved, sure, but they could have just pulled it. All Rosberg needed to do was drive to the end and park the car. Instead, he dives down, stops halfway, and then—get this—actually puts it in reverse. For heaven's sake, you have to keep that yellow flying constantly if he's going to act like that.
My take? If he’d just parked it at the bottom of the runoff, we probably wouldn't have seen a yellow flag at all, or maybe just a very brief one.

And that's exactly why I'm thinking this wasn't an accident... it was totally intentional

ruggedfox28 said:—which is exactly why I suspect this wasn't just some random mistake, but actually a calculated move.

Maybe the spin was an accident, sure—but he clearly saw an opening and decided to take it.☕

It all looks a bit strange... he already made a huge mistake at Massenet, and then maybe he just thought he'd go for a Hail Mary lap or nobody would pull off a full circuit. Word is he braked about 20m later than his best lap, plus there was that weird line and the steering input... I guess I'm 50-50 on it.

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https://twitter.com/NotPoshPete/stat...157313/photo/1

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swifttiger75 said:So why are you suddenly acting like this is some huge tragedy?! Look, the history of Formula 1 is absolutely littered with this kind of nonsense—some of it isn't even that long ago, if you think about it.

I mean, I don't see why Nico Rosberg wouldn't try to make up for a perceived lack of raw talent or pure pace by playing it that way? I'm not saying he actually did, obviously, but it’s definitely a possibility in my book.

From that perspective, sure, you've got a point. Anything can happen. But honestly, I’m listening to the experts who argue it wasn't intentional. To me, the most convincing take comes from those veteran drivers—you can just tell by watching how they moved in Miami that it wasn't on purpose.

Look, I’m convinced that initial mistake was just a fluke, but what happened afterward? That was straight-up dirty and almost certainly intentional. For crying out loud, no kid would have thought that bringing it back meant anything once the clock had already run out.

If you ask me—and I mean this in the most casual way possible—the only thing I can't wrap my head around is why he actually bothered heading back out onto the track when it was already painfully obvious that the checkered flag had effectively waved for him.

jadeseal7 said:Maybe it was just a fluke exit, but they definitely saw an opening and decided to take it... ☕

I'd have to say I'm leaning toward that theory myself... ☕

ruggedfox28 said:and that's exactly why people suspect this wasn't an accident, but totally intentional.

If it actually had been on purpose, nobody would even be talking about it—there wouldn't be any debate at all.

I’d honestly penalize him—he shouldn't have even been heading back out onto the track when he didn't need to...

Mark Lewis54 said:Look, you've got a point there—anything can happen. But I'm listening to the experts who say it wasn't intentional. Honestly, the most convincing take comes from the veteran drivers; based on how Miami moved, they’re saying it wasn't on purpose.

If you're talking about Herbert and Hill, then Herbert thinks it was intentional, while Hill doesn't. So yeah—it's basically a 50-50 split.

There are just way too many coincidences at the Monaco Grand Prix for things to have gone this perfectly for Rosberg:

First off—he spins out in Monaco without even clipping a curb or dinging the car one bit...

Second—it happens at the exact moment he completely ruins their second shot
at a fastest lap (though honestly, the only guy who could even touch him is Hemić)

Third—he manages to spin out in such a way that triggers yellow flags. He could’ve easily just sailed straight into the runoff area and kept things moving without any yellows coming out.

Fourth—that exit looks super sketchy. Usually, when someone loses it, you see them actually lose control, but here it looks more like some kind of "adjustment" right before the "spin."

Fifth, I don't know... isn't there an unwritten rule or just common sense that says the leader goes last when setting times? Because if Hemić had been ahead of Rosberg, this guy could've spun out 658 times and Hemić wouldn't have cared one bit.

Anyway... regardless of all that... Hemić is really on himself for not being ahead of Rosberg on that first attempt. If he had, this whole mess with Rosberg probably wouldn't have happened anyway...😉

Mark Lewis54 said:Why would anyone call Kimi a fraud?

Because he didn't actually earn that 2007 title...

I don't want to just assume he did it on purpose, but Lujin's body language was—to put it bluntly—absolutely ruthless 🤣

He clearly knows him well enough by now that he isn't going to bother with any pathetic, half-baked excuses
And honestly? Maybe Nico is just settling an old score over something that went down in the past

neonfox65 said:That 2007 title definitely wasn't his to claim.

Do you guys really think Alonso deserves even one title won since 2007?

Hell no... why am I even asking such a stupid question... 🙂

neonfox65 said:That title back in 2007? Honestly, he didn't earn it.

Look, he won that last race with some seriously clean driving—completely legitimate—so let's not talk nonsense. Can we please leave the fanboy bickering for a different thread?

ruggedfox28 said:that four-time champion fraud makes the previous scam look like nothing... 😂

The four-time champion fraud is sitting in a lightning-fast car. Just like he has for the last five years since 2009.

jadeseal7 said:Look, he won that race fair and square on the track at the last GP—stop the nonsense and save the fanboy arguments for another thread.

Ferrari basically handed them both titles because of that spying scandal... Kimi didn't have anything to do with it, not even 1%...