When is the 14nm Intel CPU coming out?

We’ve all seen this headline floating around,
some people claim Intel just doesn't have any real competition—so they're basically dragging their feet with these 14nm chips indefinitely
while others argue they're actually hitting major production snags...
The current rumor mill says we might see something before the big holiday shopping season—maybe by late spring at the latest—but who knows??
Does anyone have more intel on this??

Are you thinking of Skylake? From what I've seen online, it looks like it might drop sometime late in 2015... though honestly, most of what people are saying right now is just pure speculation—you might as well ask God when Intel actually decides to release things. Besides, we have Broadwell coming out at the end of this year, so we really should see how that performs first before jumping into anything else. 😁

Broadwell should probably hit the market in Q4 2014 using the 14nm process, though I guess Skylake might end up getting pushed back to Q1 2016.

I was actually thinking about that first 14nm Broadwell
even though, looking at the specs, the chip is already 3 or 4 years old with all those various fixes
(being only the second nm process) I’m guessing it’ll run incredibly cool
and won't pull much power, while still giving me a nice boost over this mediocre Haswell chip
(I've got an early i3, a late-gen i5, and a newer i5 in my laptops—the difference is maybe 20% at most between the i3 and the i5h)

then I can finally let my current PC CPU retire 🙂

I don't think Intel is going to deliver any massive leaps on the CPU side; they seem way more focused on the integrated graphics right now. They might shave off 5-10W and potentially fix those overheating issues we saw with Haswell, but honestly, you should probably just expect a 5-10% bump at the same clock speeds, nothing more.

Ever since AMD stepped away from the high-end segment for a bit, Intel hasn't really felt the pressure to push the CPU further, which is why performance has basically been idling since Sandy Bridge back in 2011.

If you're currently running a previous-gen i5 (maybe Ivy Bridge?), upgrading just to an i5 Broadwell isn't going to be worth the money. Your only real move would be jumping up to a higher class of CPU, like an i7—and even then, only if you're actually doing some heavy lifting.

(since it's the second production run) I'm assuming it'll stay super cool.

That logic doesn't really hold up. A smaller component is actually more likely to overheat because all that heat is concentrated onto a much tighter surface area.

That’s what I’ve got in my laptop—and honestly, it’s strictly for work
my desktop is just this ancient relic with four cores at 2.66GHz
so yeah, the upgrade is definitely going to be an improvement 🙂

I made the jump from an i5 750 over to an i5 4670k, and honestly? I can't tell you if I actually noticed a difference in real-world use. Maybe it's a bit faster for gaming by like 5 or 6 fps... or maybe it isn't? I really don't know.

You’d definitely notice the difference in several titles, especially if you’re running a high-end GPU

And honestly, I’m running a 7870 myself and I’ve been perfectly happy with it...

Let's be real, you'd definitely notice some GPU usage spikes even with a 7870 when playing multiplayer in Battlefield 3 or Battlefield 4.

Timothy Kim60 said:That logic doesn't quite hold up to me. Smaller components will naturally run hotter because the heat is concentrated over a much smaller surface area.

Just to add my two cents here: we should see lower power consumption thanks to a more efficient manufacturing process—assuming they don't overhaul the architecture entirely, which I doubt given what we've already discussed. This means we won't need such massive cooling solutions. Since the coolers themselves aren't changing, and considering the contact surface between the die and the heat spreader, we're looking at significantly lower temperatures. 🙂
As far as I know, Intel is returning to the old method of applying thermal interface material between the core and the heat spreader starting with Broadwell. This change will likely result in a noticeable drop in temperatures.

Personally, I feel like the gap between Sandy, Ivy, Haswell, and Broadwell isn't actually all that massive—but I have a sneaking suspicion that Skylake might be the real deal here. Since we're looking at a move to a 14nm architecture, plus the introduction of the new Iris Pro integrated graphics and support for PCIe 4.0 and DDR4 memory, things are looking up. And, perhaps less crucially, they'll finally drop their first 8-core processor (the i7). It’ll likely be a similar story with Nvidia when they eventually roll out their Volta series of graphics cards, but that's a whole other conversation for another day...

So, DDR4 (first off, I typed DDR$, so let's just roll with that for a second)... man, those days when you could just take a single component for granted are long gone. Now we're back to this whole mess with transitions and crazy price hikes...

Looks like the Z97 chipset is finally making its way to us... and we should see those Haswell refresh processors hitting the market pretty soon too. 😁

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/M...Preview/1.html

Larry Ortiz5 said:So, we've got the Z97 chipset on the horizon—and get this, the Haswell refresh processors should be dropping shortly after that too.😁

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/M...Preview/1.html

It looks like both MSI and ASRock have their full lineups ready to go, so if anyone is planning an upgrade, you might want to take a quick peek at these.

MSI: http://wccftech.com/msi-9-series-mot...gaming-boards/

ASRock: http://www.techpowerup.com/200206/as...-detailed.html

I’m really curious—when we look at the next generation of processors, how much of a leap are we actually going to see compared to what's on the market right now? 😁

You won't notice a thing during actual day-to-day use unless you're staring at benchmarks or running specialized measurements. You even admitted yourself that you couldn't tell the difference between the first-gen i5 and the last one—and that wasn't even under heavy workloads, just gaming. If there was a noticeable jump between those two, the gap here is going to be even smaller, plain and simple.

Maybe we’ll see an extra 1 or 2 fps here or there 😁 Or perhaps it’ll just help with getting a better overclock... I guess we'll just have to wait and see 😁