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hiddenmoose16 hiddenmoose16 NewcomerOP
8 messages
joined Aug 2012
#1 ·
I reported a post on this forum over a day ago—probably closer to two, actually—so I’m starting to wonder if these reports even go anywhere.
Looking at the post I flagged, nothing has been done to it (not that I care about the specific outcome), which tells me the answer to my question is likely "no." In my book, it’s just basic courtesy to send a quick two-letter acknowledgment so people aren't left guessing.
Thanks for listening.
loneraven25 loneraven25 Active Member
77 messages
joined Jul 2013
#2 ·
hiddenmoose16 said:...I honestly feel like it’s just basic common courtesy to at least type out those two little letters and send a quick reply...
thanks for reading

Transparento, do you really think a moderator who takes a report
but decides there isn't enough ground to actually act on it
should be obligated to give the user who filed the report an actual response?
hiddenmoose16 hiddenmoose16 NewcomerOP
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joined Aug 2012
#3 ·
If you guys actually had an editorial team, I would’ve sent this over for a review before posting it 😁
The main thing is that you understood my point and saw exactly what I was trying to get across...
loneraven25 loneraven25 Active Member
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joined Jul 2013
#4 ·
From a purely technical standpoint, pulling that off is a bit of a nightmare.
It’s possible that the submitted post doesn't actually include a direct link back to the sender,
which leaves the system wondering exactly who to contact or where to send the reply.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#5 ·
We get all these reports sent straight to our inbox, and honestly, we don't usually bother replying to them individually. There are just way too many coming in, and if we tried to sit down and hash out every single one of them, we'd never get anything else done! So, here’s the deal: go ahead and file your report, we'll take a look at it, and then we'll step in and make whatever calls we feel are necessary. 🙂
hiddenmoose16 hiddenmoose16 NewcomerOP
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joined Aug 2012
#6 ·
Alright, I get it...
I think you’re off base regarding the report. If someone used that kind of tone on any other platform, there would be an absolute firestorm. But if this forum allows that kind of stuff—or if I have to follow some rigid set of rules just to stay civil—then I'm out. I'll just pack my bags and head for the exit; there's no point in wasting my energy getting worked up over nothing. 😁

Thanks for the reply.
Joshua Jones13 Joshua Jones13 Active Member
69 messages
joined Jun 2006
#7 ·
Look, Emily Ramos35, how many more identical posts are you planning to write and delete on this thread?
When I wrote this reply, there were three. I see we're already up to four.
Scott Rodriguez7 Scott Rodriguez7 Member
16 messages
joined Feb 2013
#8 ·
So, I filed a formal report yesterday regarding a post by Monica. I haven't heard back from the mods yet, so I figured I’d lay everything out here just in case, and I am definitely looking for some clarity on this.

The thread is titled My boyfriend saw my sex tape

Here is the problematic post:

Emily Ramos35 said:Look, I don't think my orientation really matters in this discussion.
And honestly... it's pretty obvious that videos like that wouldn't just bother asexual people.

Monica. said:Sorry, but I feel like your potential 😁 asexuality absolutely shapes how you're perceiving this topic.

In this discussion, this user is questioning my sexual orientation—something I have no desire to disclose— and since it isn't relevant to the subject at hand, I made that clear to her.
Her response was basically to double down and try to "conclude" that my supposed orientation is exactly why I view the topic the way I do.

Basically, she's dragging me into a side argument after I already asked her to drop it. She's insisting that my perspective is biased because of my orientation, without providing a single shred of actual evidence to back that up. 🤷
It’s an unfounded assumption that has nothing to do with the topic. It feels incredibly rude—just digging into my private life and making guesses about my intimacy just to discredit me as an "unbiased" participant. She's trying to paint me as someone whose views are skewed by their identity.

It seems like she's specifically targeted me. She keeps poking at my orientation for no discernible reason, yet she hasn't dared to question the orientation of other users who share my opinion or draw those same "conclusions" about them. 🤔

Even though she’s still claiming she wasn't implying anything about my bias, the quoted post makes it crystal clear what she's doing. I find this kind of speculation and prying into my personal life to be extremely inappropriate. Making baseless conclusions about someone based on assumptions, especially on a topic where it doesn't apply, is just wrong. I'm asking the moderators to please look into this.
Scott Rodriguez7 Scott Rodriguez7 Member
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joined Feb 2013
#9 ·
Michelle Phillips54 said:Seriously, Emily Ramos35, how many more of these identical posts are you planning to write just to delete them?
When I sat down to type this, there were only three. Looks like we're already on number four.

Sorry about that—my computer completely crashed on me, so I couldn't see any of the posts and was having a nightmare trying to edit without messing up the formatting. This is the final version. 🙂
Dennis Jackson38 Dennis Jackson38 Member
34 messages
joined Feb 2011
#10 ·
Emily Ramos35, since you and the individual in question have already hashed out her theory—and given that you explicitly asked her to drop it only to be ignored—I don't see any grounds for moderator intervention here. To my eye, nothing she said was particularly offensive, and I thought you handled the entire exchange with a great deal of poise and professionalism.

She hasn't responded since your last warning, which serves as a clear signal that the debate has reached its natural conclusion. Consequently, there is simply no justification for imposing any kind of sanction at this stage.
Scott Rodriguez7 Scott Rodriguez7 Member
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joined Feb 2013
#11 ·
Sarah Sanders34 said:Since you and the user in question already went back and forth on her theory—and even after you explicitly asked her to drop it, she just wouldn't listen—I don't see much ground for moderator intervention here. Especially since nothing she said was overtly abusive and you handled the whole interaction with total class.

So, according to this logic, it’s perfectly fine to speculate about someone's sexual orientation on a completely unrelated thread, even after they've asked you to stop?
By that standard, I guess it would be totally acceptable for me to take a little swipe at someone and call them "biased" on a random topic, just because they happen to be bisexual or into threesomes.

Look, repeatedly guessing about someone's private life without any actual argument, just to try and paint them as biased, feels insulting to me. In my book, that definitely warrants at least a formal warning from the mods. ☕

I’ll respect the decision, obviously, but I really have to wonder: how many more reports regarding people dragging out these kinds of ridiculous, nonsensical arguments do I need to file before the leadership actually sends a clear message?
That's my question. 🙂
Dennis Jackson38 Dennis Jackson38 Member
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joined Feb 2011
#12 ·
Her continued tendency to dwell on such an inconsequential assumption will, quite certainly, be brought to an end.
Sophia Thomas7 Sophia Thomas7 Active Member
183 messages
joined Aug 2015
#13 ·
Emily Ramos35 said:So, according to this logic, it's perfectly fine to speculate about someone's sexual orientation on some random thread even after they've explicitly asked you to stop.

That would mean I could just casually imply someone is biased on an unrelated topic simply because they happen to be bisexual or into threesomes.

If we follow your logic regarding warnings, does it mean User A warns User B, and suddenly User B isn't allowed to speak? If a post isn't outright offensive, there shouldn't be a penalty. (Unless things get out of hand.)

Emily Ramos35 said:Basically, repeatedly guessing at someone's sex life without any actual arguments—just to make them look biased—is insulting to me, and clearly doesn't even warrant a moderator warning. ☕

She brought up your asexuality once or twice in a couple of posts; no, that's not enough for a warning, let alone a ban.

Emily Ramos35 said:I'll respect that, but I have to wonder how many more reports about people dragging on nonsense topics I'll have to file before the mods actually send a message.
Exactly that much. 🙂

If it goes too far, then you issue a warning or a ban.
Scott Rodriguez7 Scott Rodriguez7 Member
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joined Feb 2013
#14 ·
I’m hoping I can still jump in here and weigh in on a few things regarding the moderators' side of things.

Sarah Sanders34 said:Emily Ramos35, since you and that lady already went back and forth on her theory—and even after you asked her to just drop it, she wouldn't listen—I don't think there’s anything particularly offensive about it. Honestly, I think you handled yourself really well when you were talking to her. There’s just no reason for a moderator to step in at this point.

Look, I’ve already made my point regarding the insults and the fact that we shouldn't be jumping to conclusions or making guesses on this thread without actual evidence to back them up. I thought I was pretty clear about that.
I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around this last part. It just isn't clicking for me. 🤔

Why would I need to hold my own here? Honestly, that’s a fair question. If you're asking why I should be able to navigate this community and really find my footing, I think it comes down to how much I value actual, meaningful conversation. I’ve always been the type of person who prefers to dive deep rather than just skimming the surface, you know? I don't want to just drop a comment and vanish. I want to actually engage, listen to what people like Michelle Phillips54 or Matthew Anderson are saying, and contribute something that actually adds to the thread. For me, "finding my way" isn't just about learning where the buttons are on the site—it's about finding my rhythm within the group, understanding the different perspectives, and being able to jump into a debate or a casual chat without feeling like an outsider. I tend to ramble a bit sometimes—I'll admit that much—but I try to make sure there's some substance behind the words. I think if I can stay true to that, and keep things respectful and thoughtful, I'll do just fine. It's all about finding that balance between sharing my own take and making space for everyone else's.
I honestly feel like it’s part of a moderator's basic job description to step in when things start getting personal. If someone starts throwing ad hominem attacks around or just pulling random assumptions out of thin air that have absolutely nothing to do with the actual topic—especially when they're jumping to conclusions without any real evidence—there should be a warning. From what I've seen, though, that doesn't always happen in practice.

Matthew Anderson said:If we were actually going to follow your logic regarding those warnings... Honestly, I’ve been sitting here thinking about this, and it really boils down to a simple question of accountability: wouldn't it be enough if a moderator just gave someone a heads-up? Like, if a moderator flags an issue and tells a user, "Hey, don't do that," shouldn't that be the end of it? It feels like there should be a clear line where a warning serves as the final boundary, and once that's drawn, the person just needs to respect it and move on. Sometimes things get unnecessarily complicated when they don't have to be. If a post isn't actually offensive, there really shouldn't be any reason to slap someone with a sanction. I mean, obviously, you don't want things to go overboard, but we have to draw a line somewhere before it becomes too much.

Nah.
It just boils down to simple logic, really. Matthew Anderson Look, when a moderator hands out a warning, it’s not because they’ve suddenly decided someone is being difficult or just having a bad day. It’s much more practical than that. It happens because certain threads veer off into deep dives about people's private lives, which honestly, has nothing to do with the actual topic at hand. When a discussion loses its way like that, you stop reaching meaningful conclusions and start spinning wheels. It’s just about keeping the conversation on track so we can actually get somewhere.
I don't think there’s even any debate about what we're talking about here. It's pretty straightforward.

Just so we can make sure the moderator's message actually gets through, though I totally get why you’d feel that way about the post itself. Emily Ramos35 It just doesn't carry that kind of weight, you know? So, in my opinion, there’s no way this could—or even should—be viewed as a substitute for a moderator actually stepping in and reacting when things happen in real-time.
Anyway, that whole moderator post about what’s actually allowed here? It’s basically just a repeat of stuff we’ve already heard.

She only mentioned your asexuality in one or two posts, didn't she? Honestly, that's nowhere near enough to warrant a warning, let alone a ban.

Sorry, maybe it's just asexualness. ☕
Look, I’m sorry, but I don’t know if you actually realize which thread you were speculating about my orientation on. 🤔 I started jumping to conclusions—"The guy saw my sex tape." 🙄

If that works for everyone, I don't have anything else to add. 👎

I’m honestly pretty baffled that even after I spoke up about this situation, the moderators didn't feel the need to step in with at least a formal warning. You’d think if they had issued one, they'd be a lot more on top of things when similar issues pop up down the road. It just feels like a missed opportunity to stay proactive. 🤔
If things get out of hand, you give a warning and then issue a card.
She’d probably argue that people were already overstepping right after my warning, but once again, the mods didn't step in. 😁

Sarah Sanders34 said:Her continuous dragging out of this irrelevant assumption will be shut down, so that

I'm really hoping I actually get to see that happen.

Anyway, I was also just wondering if anyone else thinks there’s actually any ground for a warning regarding this specific topic—you know, based on the direction the conversation took?
I would like to know. 🙂
Sophia Thomas7 Sophia Thomas7 Active Member
183 messages
joined Aug 2015
#15 ·
Emily Ramos35 said:No.
It just makes sense, doesn't it? Matthew Anderson Look, when a moderator steps in with a warning, it’s not because they’ve personally taken offense or because some user is having a bad day. It’s much simpler than that. We issue warnings when discussions veer too far into people's private lives—stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual topic at hand. If a thread turns into a gossip session where nobody can draw a logical conclusion or make a real point, we have to step in. It's just about keeping the conversation on track.
I don't think there's any debate about what we're actually talking about here.

Look, if something gets brought up on this forum or can be pieced together from the context of our chats, it’s not "private" anymore. Once that info is out there in the open, it’s public domain. That said, if someone starts using those details to derail a conversation or just acts like a jerk, the moderators will step in and shut it down.

Emily Ramos35 said:Just to make sure the moderator's message actually gets through, though I totally get why you'd want to post that. I think I've finally hit my limit with this whole situation. It’s one thing to deal with minor hiccups, but this? This is just exhausting. Honestly, I’m starting to wonder if anyone actually knows what they’re doing over there. It feels like we're just spinning our wheels while everyone else moves forward. I’m trying to stay positive, really, but it's getting harder to find the silver lining when the logic seems to vanish every single time we reach a turning point. Is it just me, or is this becoming the new normal? It doesn't carry that kind of weight, so I honestly don't see how it could—or even should—be considered a substitute for getting a timely response from a moderator.
Honestly, that moderator's post about what we can and can't tolerate? It’s pretty much just a rehash of stuff we've already heard.

She asked you, and you denied it. Honestly, I think the debate ends right there. There’s absolutely no need for a warning or any kind of disciplinary action.

Emily Ramos35 said:Sorry, maybe it's just the asexual thing. ☕
Look, I’m sorry, but I don't know if you actually realize which thread you were speculating about my orientation on. 🤔 I jumped to conclusions—"He saw my sex tape." 🙄

If that works for everyone, I’ve got nothing more to add. 👎

I honestly think it’s fine, mostly because it adds some necessary friction to the debate. It’s kind of like when someone from the vegetarian sub ever wanders over to the BBQ thread and tries to lecture the carnivores on the "correct" way to sear a ribeye—as if they actually know anything about grilling meat when they've never even touched a spatula or tasted a steak.

Emily Ramos35 said:It honestly baffles me that even after I flagged this, the mods didn't feel the need to drop at least a basic content warning. I really think they’d be a lot more on top of things if they actually used them. 🤔

We don't think a warning is necessary because Monica didn't cross the line. If this hit a nerve for you, that's strictly on you. If we set the precedent you're asking for, anyone could just claim they're "offended" and we'd end up sanitizing the entire forum. Besides, if this topic is just "potentially" asexual, as you put it, then there's no real reason for a warning, and nobody is oversharing private details here.

Emily Ramos35 said:By the way, I'm also curious if anyone else thinks there's actual ground for a warning regarding this subject matter, or at least the direction the conversation took?
I'd love to hear your thoughts. 🙂

No matter how many people chime in, it won't change how the moderators handle the forum.
Dennis Jackson38 Dennis Jackson38 Member
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joined Feb 2011
#16 ·
Emily Ramos35, please understand that the moderators oversee this thread just as we do all others; managing the flow and making these calls is our responsibility, not yours.

Furthermore, just because a user flags a post using the report icon doesn't mean a moderator is obligated to issue a warning or even that the report was valid in the first place.

In your specific situation, her comments didn't constitute an insult; she was simply referencing your asexual identity—a topic you have already discussed openly here on the forum. You two were engaged in a debate regarding it, and while you did ask her to stop, she hasn't responded since, which effectively ends the interaction.

The fact that you feel offended doesn't necessarily mean her remarks contained elements of actual harassment. We won't be issuing a strike here because, quite frankly, she hasn't earned one.

You did the right thing by flagging the post, and we appreciate the heads-up, but if the conversation veers off-topic again, leave that concern to us. It’s our job to police the boundaries, not yours.

A bit of advice for the future: anything you choose to disclose about yourself on this forum is subject to commentary, and you essentially take ownership of those details once they are posted. She commented on what you shared, but she didn't insult you, nor did she mock you.

Consider this matter closed; there is nothing left to debate.
Scott Rodriguez7 Scott Rodriguez7 Member
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joined Feb 2013
#17 ·
Matthew Anderson said:If anything gets brought up on the forum... Or maybe it was just taken out of context?Look, once that info hits the public domain, it isn't exactly "private" anymore, is it? It’s out there. That said, if someone decides to weaponize that information to derail the conversation or just starts being straight-up obnoxious, the mods will step in to shut it down. That's just how it works.

Are we really going this far now? Are we actually at the point where we're just pulling things out of context to make a point? 🤔

Look, I’ve never actually come out or even really touched upon my orientation or my private life on this forum. And even when I have shared things... honestly, I don't see how that should ever bleed into other topics that have nothing to do with it. I'm not sure who thinks they have any right to start drawing conclusions about one thing based on another.
She asked you directly, and you gave her a straight denial. Honestly, if you ask me, the debate ends right there. There’s absolutely no need for a formal warning or any kind of disciplinary action—it's a non-issue.

I haven't actually said anything to deny my orientation. ☕I’ve already made it pretty clear that there’s just no room for that debate anymore. It obviously wasn't the end of the road for Monica, though, because she just kept right on going with it. But you don't seem to see anything wrong with it.
I honestly think it’s fine, mostly because it can actually add some depth to the conversation. It reminds me of when someone from the vegetarian side of a forum pops over to the meat lovers' thread to lecture everyone on the "correct" way to sear a steak—acting like they're an expert on how it should be cooked, even though they've probably never even touched a grill or tasted a real cut of beef.

Come on, give me a break. What are you actually basing that on? Where's the proof?
Look, it doesn't really add anything to the conversation when people start playing the guessing game and jumping to conclusions without any actual evidence—especially when they're veering off on a tangent that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. Again...
I honestly don't think any kind of warning is necessary here. Monica didn't go overboard or cross any lines. If what she said hit a nerve for you, that's really on you, not her.

🤔

Is it just me, or is she overstepping? I feel like she’s constantly drilling me about my sexual orientation under the guise of some completely different topic, and then—get this—she starts making these totally baseless assumptions about how I perceive things. It feels like she's just fishing for conclusions without actually having any real arguments to back them up. Is it just me, or is that getting a bit much?
Wait, are you actually okay with that?😲
It’s good to know that I'm not the only one seeing how this plays out in the real world. It's helpful to have those other examples and see how everything actually applies when you put it into practice. 😛
If we’re calling asexuality just "possible" or "maybe," then I really don't see the point in issuing warnings. It’s not like I’m oversharing anything from my private life or anything.

On what basis does she think she has any right to speculate about my private life or start questioning me on it? What does that even have to do with the topic at hand? It’s pretty obvious there’s no room for that here. Since when did "ad hominem" attacks suddenly become acceptable?
If I recall correctly, making baseless assumptions used to be flagged as trolling in most discussions on this forum.

No matter how many people speak up, they aren't going to change how this sub is moderated.

I asked you for an answer 🙂, so who exactly would be responsible for reviewing this?

Sarah Sanders34 said:In your case, she wasn't insulting you because she brought up your asexuality (which you've already discussed on the forum)

Alright, let's go over this one more time.
I haven't actually talked about being asexual or shared any experiences regarding it on this forum; I just happened to be part of that specific debate.
The same logic applies to almost any other personal topic.
That's why I feel that probing into my private life—let alone jumping to conclusions about it—is totally unjustified. I really think the moderators should be calling this out, especially since I see them already doing it to the other side.
Joshua Jones13 Joshua Jones13 Active Member
69 messages
joined Jun 2006
#18 ·
phiber said:This reminds me of that whole "I won't talk to Nica, give me a different moderator" thing.

Me too.

Zoya, I honestly don't see anything problematic about the post you reported, especially since Alex and phiber already explained why it’s fine.
Monica brought up something you had basically hinted at through your own posts (maybe some asexual leanings?), and you made it clear you weren't a fan. Monica was ready to drop it and get back to the topic in her next post, but you're the one who kept pushing it.

We aren't going to sanitize this forum by banning posts that aren't even insults.
Scott Rodriguez7 Scott Rodriguez7 Member
16 messages
joined Feb 2013
#19 ·
Michelle Phillips54 said:Emily Ramos35, I honestly don't see anything wrong with the post you reported, and Alex and phiber already laid out why it’s fine.
Monica just brought up something you had basically hinted at through your previous posts (maybe regarding being asexual), but you made it clear to her that it bothered you, and by her next post, Monica was perfectly willing to drop it and get back to the actual topic. You're the one who kept pushing it further.

I'm going to risk a warning here (even though I didn't mean to), because what's being said is simply not true.

After I reacted and clarified that those details don't belong in this specific thread, Monica went right back to making the same baseless assumptions based on a supposed orientation (see the attached posts, which clearly show where the issue lies).

Look, I get the mods' message and I understand the guidelines. I have every right to my own opinion, and I know exactly what's on-topic and what isn't,but please, let's not 😉...insist on things that clearly aren't factual. We're all adults here. That's all I have to say.🙂

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