Double standards or what?

First, I'm here complaining about the Cardboard I received, and after more than a month, I get this response, only for everything to end up right here.

That is, while the moderator suggested this
implying that I am "turning a discussion about a topic into a discussion about an interlocutor, which constitutes trolling" 🤷

And all of this is explained by

rezon@tor said:Do you really think there is much difference between mentioning someone or explicitly referencing what an interlocutor said a few posts ago, versus slapping labels like "post-communist delusions" on them?

It is blatant trolling—just like the message you requested a sanction for.

Then I read this 😲

rezon@tor said:It’s not that they aren't different.
The distinction lies in reading things into someone else's posts that simply weren't written there. .

the edge said:Exactly. They build these arguments and stir up debates about things that don't exist anywhere.

... and I see that people are being punished here for reading things into others' posts that aren't there, yet I was penalized for "personal attacks" when none were made 🤷

The Cardboard doesn't matter anymore, though I would appreciate some clarity on this subtle distinction—where you can read things into posts and get away with it, while others are punished for the exact same thing 😕

Double standards. It’s a massive problem with a certain segment of the forum elite, specifically over on Zipline. Honestly, it's pretty interesting because I haven't run into this kind of hypocrisy on other boards—and trust me, I’ve been active on plenty of them.

So, I've been getting some comments directed my way over on Zipline lately:
What does a guy like him even want to be doing hanging around this chicken coop talking about beautiful women? He should just head over to Microsoft—that’s where he’ll find nothing but that kind of topic anyway.
He claims he's a guy, yet he writes about "feminine" topics with more passion than most women I know. Just imagine how much "manhood" someone has to be lugging around to comment on women's bodies with that kind of unhinged intensity. Seriously, give me a break! 😁)
A guy who spends all his time hanging out with women is just... well, you know. Honestly, a man should be spending his time at Microsoft, where it’s 99% guys.

And all the other comments look exactly like that.

You’ll see this exact kind of commentary popping up from users like Tina, Barbie, hannah3, and never more. Just wanted to give you a heads-up on who you're actually dealing with if you ever decide to join that crowd. 😁

So, here’s the deal... I’ve noticed that my posts are being systematically reported by a small group of users over on Chicken—specifically within those threads about "The Most Beautiful Women" and "Most Beautiful Female Bodies"—and I'm getting sanctioned for it regularly. Yet, here’s the kicker: not one single post (and I mean absolutely none) that carries the same sentiment—basically arguing that men have no business participating in "women-only" discussions—has ever faced a single sanction.

The whole "the moderators didn't see those posts" excuse just doesn't fly with me. They had to have seen them. There’s no way they weren't watching the discussion, especially since things were getting heated and the tone was frequently spiraling out of control.

It’s nothing but a blatant double standard. Period. It all stems from the fact that so many of my cartoons were actually based on— It’s a classic move, isn't it? When someone realizes they can't actually win an argument on the merits, they just start throwing punches at the person instead. It's the ultimate white flag. Instead of tackling the logic or the data, they pivot to attacking character, motives, or personality. It’s lazy, it’s predictable, and frankly, it's a sign that the conversation is officially dead in the water. If you have to resort to insults to make your point, you've already lost. Basically, people aren't just looking at the posts themselves anymore. They’re viewing everything through this filtered lens of who I am, my track record here, and all the times I’ve clashed with certain users on this forum.

hiddenotter98 said:Look, I’m first to admit that I’m complaining about getting flagged here, especially since after waiting over a month, this was the response I got, and now everything just ends up right here.

Actually, you got an answer immediately.
The truth is, you spent a whole month asking for a second opinion.

If you actually took a close look at the messages the moderator was replying to—and really looked at the flagged message itself—you'd see that what he's citing isn't even written in those posts.
You got flagged because of something explicitly stated in your own message where you clearly addressed the person you were talking to.

Ad 1

I reached out to administration immediately for an answer and received nothing. Your response—well, it didn't mean much since I wasn't actually addressing you...
So, the idea that an immediate answer was provided is simply incorrect.

By the way:
When you claim I spent a month seeking a second opinion, are you implying the fault lies with me for being unable to find one?
If I requested it and waited thirty days... what exactly are we discussing?

Ad 2

Where exactly are you seeing a specific interlocutor in my post? I am speaking—and thinking—in terms of a collective...
Regarding those ideological communists found across the board, including the Republican Party, the military, and the state apparatus... 🤷

You seem to be reading an attack on Judolin in my text, which I couldn't care less about. His own post—among others—which includes yours, provoked such a reaction, but I wasn't targeting him, nor was he my direct focus.
In short, I was responding to anyone advocating for "verbal offenses," as I view all such individuals as mental communists.
Yet here, when people (if there is a better word) rant against the Financial Times, the Green Party, AG, the Socialist Party, or the Democratic Party, they claim everyone is entitled to an opinion.
It seems to me that, in my case, I am not.

Ergo,
I don't give a damn about Judolin. He chose to see himself in my post and began shouting at me personally.
Perhaps that's how it works... doesn't matter to me.
My goal was merely to point out the double standards—
especially since you are involved (and I assume I won't get a strike for this 🤔 )!

Also, please point out where I clearly refer to a single individual and specify exactly who 😲

hiddenotter98 said:I went straight to the admins looking for an answer, and I didn't get one. Your response doesn't really mean much to me since I wasn't even asking you anything in the first place.

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Also, please point out where I’m actually addressing someone specifically, because I don't see it.

Look, I am part of the administration here. Admins step in whenever they feel it's necessary to keep things moving.

I'm not going to keep repeating myself; everything that needs saying has already been laid out.
You could have just ignored me, or better yet, actually engaged in a conversation.
Now you want me to waste thirty minutes digging through threads from over a month ago? Honestly, I've got way more important things to deal with, both here on the forum and in my actual life.

A simple "okay" would have done the trick...

Sam Green73 said:I am part of the staff—admins step in only when they deem it necessary.

I don't see why you're being evasive 🤷
I made it clear I wanted an opinion from an administrator, which you are not.

Sam Green73 said:I have no intention of repeating myself; everything was settled long ago.
You should just ignore me instead of trying to engage.
Now, I'm not going to waste thirty minutes catching up on this... I have much more important things to attend to, both here and in my actual life.

A single word should suffice...

No one asked you to spend thirty minutes on this topic...🤷
If you aren't interested... just hit the ignore button.

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Besides, what exactly was said that clearly targeted you? I wasn't referring to you at all...

hiddenotter98 said:Nobody actually asked for your input on this so don't waste half an hour of your life here 🤷
If you aren't feeling it... just hit ignore

🙂
First, you quote me in the intro, and then you follow it up with "Nobody actually asked for your input on this."

I'm not ignoring you, I just don't see any point in repeating myself. 😉

I’m pointing out the double standards in the introduction 🙂
It isn't my fault you're using double standards—and you certainly aren't the only one...