Condensation issues with water cooling loops

Water hoses tend to burst right at the couplings sometimes.

Look, this isn't rubber... it's straight-up plastic.
.The actual rubber is supposed to go underneath the clamp,

Look, where the tubing meets the plastic is the actual junction. You’re right that a drip wouldn't typically show up above that point—unless water is somehow spraying from above the fitting itself. In reality, that's more likely since the seal ends at the top of the fitting, definitely not the bottom.

On another note, water cooling is way overrated. Sure, you might shave off a couple of degrees compared to a high-end air cooler, but that's about it. No game-changing results there. Besides, the hardcore enthusiasts and competitive overclockers are all using liquid nitrogen anyway, so water cooling isn't going to be breaking any world records or pushing chip limits to the absolute max.

Are you talking about an all-in-one water cooling loop, or just liquid cooling in general?

Generally speaking, it’s unnecessary. It acts more like a status symbol—a bit of flair to go along with a high-end PC—rather than a genuine requirement for most users. I’d bet my life savings that a huge chunk of their customers never even touch their CPU overclocking settings. Most people just buy it because they can, and naturally, they want to brag about having liquid 😁

Kimberly Gomez34 said:Generally speaking, it’s unnecessary. It acts more like a status symbol—a bit of flair to go along with a high-end PC—rather than a genuine requirement for most users. I’d bet my life savings that a huge chunk of their customers never even touch their CPU overclocking settings. Most people just buy it because they can, and naturally, they want to brag about having liquid 😁

Plus, if we're talking custom loops, there's definitely a certain fun in the assembly process. 😁
And while I have your attention, what's the verdict on GPUs? Can a water block actually outperform a solid aftermarket fan setup? By that, I also mean, can it be significantly quieter under heavy load—assuming a little overclocking is involved, of course?

NVIDIA cards, for sure, though I don't really keep tabs on the specific overclocking benchmarks and all that. From a pure price-to-performance standpoint, they just aren't worth it. It feels like most people buy them more for the aesthetic or just as a hobby. It’s the exact same logic as someone spending a fortune on custom rims and neon lights for their Ford Mustang.

If my memory serves me right—and it’s been quite a while since I last looked into this—there are certain advantages to running a waterblock, mainly because you get much more efficient cooling for the GPU core, the memory modules, and all those other little components that matter. It essentially gives you more headroom to push the voltage higher if you're feeling ambitious. Personally, I couldn't care less about the aesthetics; my rig is tucked away in a closed chassis where nobody can see it anyway. However, the prospect of better overclocking potential combined with a whisper-quiet system during heavy loads? Well, that sounds incredibly appealing to me. 😁
But let's be honest, once you start adding up the costs, you could probably build an entire secondary PC for what you'd spend on a high-end liquid setup. 😁

Kimberly Gomez34 said:Generally speaking, it’s unnecessary. It acts more like a status symbol—a bit of flair to go along with a high-end PC—rather than a genuine requirement for most users. I’d bet my life savings that a huge chunk of their customers never even touch their CPU overclocking settings. Most people just buy it because they can, and naturally, they want to brag about having liquid 😁

That's the truth... looks nice on paper, sure...
But honestly? The dealbreaker for me would be the fact that if there’s a technical failure in one of their cooling systems, they won't even bother compensating people for the damage it causes to their hardware...

driftingdrifter88 said:That's the truth... looks nice on paper, sure...
But honestly? The dealbreaker for me would be the fact that if there’s a technical failure in one of their cooling systems, they won't even bother compensating people for the damage it causes to their hardware...

Are you suggesting that people have already dealt with leaks from them multiple times and had their gear ruined?

Look, I'm not trying to defend them—I don't own any of their products, nor do I have the slightest clue how they actually stress-test their finished goods—but if you really want to see if a seal is going to leak, you have to push that radiator with a decent load to drive up the water temps, run it for a while, and monitor it. Then, if it does leak, you're stuck unscrewing everything, reseating the gaskets, tightening it back up, and checking it all over again.
If they aren't performing that kind of rigorous quality control, then well... this stuff is going to happen more often than it should. And even then, there's no absolute guarantee, is there? A component could easily work itself loose during shipping, or perhaps you tighten a hose in your own chassis just enough to trigger another leak down the road.

Tell me, did you perhaps try tightening that seal a bit?

I’m not sure whose equipment they were running, but you have to factor in potential leaks and the resulting property damage—that’s just one more major downside to using water-based systems.




Keep in mind, too, that these guys aren't exactly rookies...

Angela Flores4 said:Are you suggesting that people have already dealt with leaks from them multiple times and had their gear ruined?

Look, I'm not trying to defend them—I don't own any of their products, nor do I have the slightest clue how they actually stress-test their finished goods—but if you really want to see if a seal is going to leak, you have to push that radiator with a decent load to drive up the water temps, run it for a while, and monitor it. Then, if it does leak, you're stuck unscrewing everything, reseating the gaskets, tightening it back up, and checking it all over again.
If they aren't performing that kind of rigorous quality control, then well... this stuff is going to happen more often than it should. And even then, there's no absolute guarantee, is there? A component could easily work itself loose during shipping, or perhaps you tighten a hose in your own chassis just enough to trigger another leak down the road.

Tell me, did you perhaps try tightening that seal a bit?

YES, unfortunately, they had leakage issues back in 2014/2015... and from what I gathered browsing through some old US tech forums, they just sent an email to everyone telling them to return the coolers, and quite a few people already had their hardware fried... so they released a 1.1 revision with metal components and everything...

Sadly, the hose/seal is tight, so it's not leaking at the gasket itself (as soon as I sent the photos, they told me not to touch a thing, to just take it off, and pick whether I wanted a replacement or a refund after they test it). This leak is coming from the plastic part above (the section that's integrated with the housing rather than the tubing)... probably some micro-crack (you can't see it with the naked eye, a droplet just starts forming), and it only happens after the PC has been running for about 2 hours.

According to their instructions, the cooler arrives 100% ready to go.

Kimberly Gomez34 said:I’m not sure whose equipment they were running, but you have to factor in potential leaks and the resulting property damage—that’s just one more major downside to using water-based systems.

Keep in mind, too, that these guys aren't exactly rookies...

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Amateur? Please. If these guys actually knew what they were doing, wouldn't they have used high-quality copper piping that could actually withstand a few atmospheres of pressure once soldered? 😁

Sent the cooler back to the manufacturer, just waiting on that refund now.

Picked up this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835608018

Angela Flores4 said:🤣
Amateur? Please. If these guys actually knew what they were doing, wouldn't they have used high-quality copper piping that could actually withstand a few atmospheres of pressure once soldered? 😁

Or you could just shove that liquid cooling setup right up your ass. 🙂They just grab some high-end liquid cooling setup and suddenly they don't have any issues whatsoever. It's quite simple, really. 👍.

High-end air cooling performance is truly in a league of its own. You can pick up units that deliver that level of quality for around $400.$167 And everyone’s happy.

driftingdrifter88 said:Sent the cooler back to the manufacturer, just waiting on that refund now.

Picked up this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835608018

That thing is a beast, honestly. It’ll chill everything out just fine.😁

I'm running an Arctic A30 myself—absolute unit.😬

Robert Rodriguez2 said:That thing is a beast, honestly. It’ll chill everything out just fine.😁

I'm running an Arctic A30 myself—absolute unit.😬

And let's not forget how sharp those things are... I actually sliced my finger open just trying to get it out of the box

driftingdrifter88 said:And let's not forget how sharp those things are... I actually sliced my finger open just trying to get it out of the box

LOL
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My absolute wet dream is picking up a Noctua cooler.😁

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Kimberly Gomez34 said:

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