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Zgsaše (I know you guys are "crazy" about reading)

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Participants coppergardenerhollowtrucker77Nicholas Kingrestlesssurfer6Richard Perez3fadedsailor57Joshua Hughes4
coppergardener coppergardener Active MemberOP
137 messages
joined Jun 2006
#1 ·
Good day to you all.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank you in advance for granting me just a few extra minutes of your attention.

First—regarding that "controversial" snippet that sparked such a massive debate over my post on the Chicago Cubs forum—it was merely a tiny fraction of the entire thing, so I truly cannot fathom why the whole post was purged. Did you honestly interpret the entirety of my writing as hate speech, or was this simply a reaction from those who seem to wish they could see me burned at the stake? *Off with her head!* Truly, what is the harm in a bit of classic cartoonishness, if you insist on labeling it hate speech (even though, naturally, I see none of it here)?

Second: let me be quite clear—this was neither foreign propaganda nor did I have any intention of speaking against anyone based on their nationality. That specific part of my post served solely as an illustration of how collective hatred and condemnation are manufactured. Perhaps it was a poor choice of illustration—and I did admit afterward that I am not above being mistaken—but there was genuinely no reason to delete the entire message. I had no desire to incite further off-topic, politically charged bickering, nor did I attempt to engage in it. The heart of my post wasn't about some ethnic conflict; I simply chose one of those current, widely known issues as a passing example. Does that bother you? If so, then please just delete that, specifically that portion. By the way, I was actually one of the rare voices pointing out the very core of the subject, yet even that was scrubbed away despite having nothing to do with the minor controversial segment. So much for democracy, I suppose.

Third: if we are going to discuss hate speech, perhaps you should consider deleting that baseless, paranoid headline used by the thread starter. I am not spreading propaganda, whereas that particular forum member has repeatedly emphasized on this site how her blood boils at the mere mention of a certain group—and clearly, she couldn't resist doing it again this time. Furthermore, I find this fragmentation of my post to be absolutely unacceptable, especially since the original version can no longer be found. Does its very existence on the forum bother you (as you claimed), or does it not? I suggest you make a decision: either delete it entirely or stop playing this game of "yes there, but no here." 🤣

It is a good thing no one asked me to produce my birth certificate; I imagine some people would be terribly disappointed to discover I am not from that side of the pond. 🤦

Thank you!
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
681 messages
joined Nov 2007
#2 ·
As far as I’m concerned, we’ve already hit the limit—actually, we’ve gone well past it—especially regarding that little line where you ask, "well, what would those grieving American war widows even have to do with this..."
Now, even though that’s just one fragment of the whole thing, I’m really not interested in playing editor for someone else’s posts, and if deletions were actually necessary, the reactions to it would make that pretty obvious enough.
Besides, I couldn't care less about anyone's background, race, or whatever else; my focus is strictly on what is being said and how it's being written on this forum.
And look, on an American forum in America, obviously Americans are going to have the upper hand, and nobody is going to sit there questioning why they’re participating.
They live here, they exist here, and they aren't some kind of surplus presence, much less are the mothers of fallen American service members some sort of excess.
If anyone finds that hard to swallow, they are more than welcome to head wherever they please and hang out with whoever they want.
Nicholas King Nicholas King Regular
716 messages
joined Jan 2023
#3 ·
hollowtrucker77 said:And we’ll just be sticking to America and the American forum, I suppose. I suppose one could argue that Americans have the upper hand here—though, honestly, I’m not entirely sure if that’s a blessing or a curse. It feels like there's this inherent advantage built into the system, or maybe it's just how things are structured in this country, but it definitely leans in our favor. I guess you could say we're starting from a position of strength, provided we don't completely blow it through sheer incompetence.

It might actually be wise to take another look at—or perhaps more accurately, re-examine—this specific sentence. I’m only suggesting this because I wouldn't want you to inadvertently stumble into a legal minefield regarding Constitutional protections and guaranteed equal rights... or whatever other technicalities might arise from such an oversight. 🙂
coppergardener coppergardener Active MemberOP
137 messages
joined Jun 2006
#4 ·
Wasteful? 😕 Honestly, I was expecting a somewhat more substantial response from someone holding such a high-level position—but oh well. I suppose you can just close the case then.
Thanks anyway!
restlesssurfer6 restlesssurfer6 Member
17 messages
joined Sep 2010
#5 ·
Nicholas King said:Maybe we should take another look at this sentence—just to be safe—so you don't end up tripping over some constitutional technicality regarding equal rights or whatever else. 🙂

How would you even say, "nobody gives a damn about me"?
Richard Perez3 Richard Perez3 Active Member
215 messages
joined Dec 2014
#6 ·
coppergardener said:Look, I wasn't trying to start some off-topic political flame war, nor was I actually aiming to get into it. The whole point of my post wasn't about those messy border disputes or whatever; I just grabbed a current, well-known issue as a quick way to illustrate my point. Is that really such a problem?

Hey there. 🙂

Yeah, it’s a massive problem. On the Chicago Cubs boards, we have zero tolerance for any kind of political posting, especially when it's this sensitive and provocative. Honestly, if I hadn't been there to moderate it, I'd probably just shut this entire thread down right now. I'm done playing judge and jury.

It's just pathetic.
fadedsailor57 fadedsailor57 Member
11 messages
joined May 2013
#7 ·
hollowtrucker77 said:As far as I'm concerned, that part where you ask "what would the mothers of war veterans have to do with any of this..." is already more than enough.
Furthermore—even though that’s just one snippet of the post—I’m not about to spend my time editing someone else’s words. If the post needed deleting, the reactions to it should make that obvious enough.
Also, I don't care about anyone's race or background. I only care about what's actually written here on the forum.
And look, on an American forum, in America, obviously Americans are going to have the advantage and nobody is going to question why they're here.
They live here, they exist here, and they aren't some outsiders who don't belong, much less the mothers of fallen American service members and veterans.
If someone doesn't like it, they're more than welcome to go wherever they want and hang out with whoever they please.

Just when I think nothing on this forum can surprise me anymore, hollowtrucker77 shows up to prove me wrong. 🙏
Joshua Hughes4 Joshua Hughes4 Member
13 messages
joined May 2013
#8 ·
coppergardener said:hey there.

Glad nobody asked for my birth certificate... some people would’ve had a massive meltdown if they realized I’m not actually an American patriot. 🤦

thanks!

🙄

Look, I’ll happily upload my birth certificate if that’s what it takes.
But let’s be real, your post was pure malice.
You didn't just miss the mark on the topic, the file format, or this forum... you missed the mark on the whole damn country.
Honestly, you deserve a partial ban on this site. People have been kicked off here for way less than this...
What's actually scary is seeing the mods patting you on the back and praising your "wit."

And yeah, those same mothers won't be saying "good morning" to you tomorrow, or ever again.
Next time, maybe think twice before trying to pull teeth without any anesthesia...🙂
Richard Perez3 Richard Perez3 Active Member
215 messages
joined Dec 2014
#9 ·
Look, let's not drag this out any further. We don't need this drama here. You guys can just take it to the DMs. 😁

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