2010 Spanish Grand Prix (Circuit of Americas)

Keith Rodriguez27 said:Not only are Red Bull's convincingly faster than everyone else on track (during qualifying), but what makes it worse is that their massive gap isn't just because the rest of the field is mediocre or bad. Luckily, Formula 1 is decided by races, not just qualifying sessions. And of course, assuming Red Bull's "lucky" unreliability during races (for whatever reason) is the only thing that might actually keep this season uncertain after 10-15 rounds. Besides, since Red Bull's race pace doesn't quite match their qualifying pace, I don't think we'll see dominance like Brawn's last year, mainly due to a "weaker" driver lineup compared to Brawn's. To me, Sebastian Vettel is still too inexperienced and prone to mistakes compared to other elite drivers. Plus, Mark Webber isn't exactly top-tier either.

Basically, it feels like compared to Brawn's dominance this time last year, there's a better chance Red Bull will blow their speed advantage during the race, allowing one of the other title contenders to capitalize. But for now, Vettel and Webber look like the clear favorites to win, provided it doesn't rain (or some other weather nonsense happens).

Yeah, this post is basically a summary of everything I've written before. Please, God, let it rain or let the Red Bull cars break down. Let them show some mercy to the others. It's pathetic.
I'm sick of it.
As far as I'm concerned, I don't care about how "exciting" the championship is. I like seeing the strongest and the best win.
So, I'd actually prefer if Red Bull just crushed everyone in their path (since Ferrari isn't even in the hunt right now) and took the championship the way Michael Schumacher did in 2002 or 2004.

If they are this brutally powerful (like they were today in qualifying), they should be winning the race by at least half a minute.
That's the only outcome that would give me any reason to compare them to Ferrari in the early 2000s (or McLaren from a decade ago).

Bottom line: I'm expecting an execution. Anything less would leave me feeling a little disappointed.

I suppose I’m still holding out a shred of hope for tomorrow:
1. That we see a collision at the start, forcing at least one Red Bull to drop back about ten spots.
2. That the skies actually open up and it rains, or at least
3. That Mark Webber manages to finish ahead of his Red Bull teammate, just for the sake of the championship standings.

Might see some rain hitting around 2 PM today
http://www.accuweather.com/world-ind...P008|BARCELONA

Keith Rodriguez27 said:Beyond the fact that Red Bull's are convincingly faster than everyone else on track during qualifying, what makes it even worse is that their massive advantage isn't just because the rest of the field is mediocre or downright terrible. Luckily for us, the Formula 1 championship is decided by races, not just qualifying sessions. And of course, assuming Red Bull's "lucky" unreliability in races—for whatever reason—is the only thing keeping this season from being a total blowout after 10 or 15 rounds. Plus, since Red Bull's race pace doesn't actually match their qualifying speed, I don't think we'll see a dominance quite like Brawn's last year, mostly because their driver lineup is "weaker" compared to Brawn's. To me, Sebastian Vettel still seems too inexperienced and prone to mistakes compared to other top-tier drivers. Then again, Mark Webber isn't exactly world-class either.

Basically, it feels like compared to how much Brawn dominated this time last season, there's a better chance now that Red Bull will blow their speed advantage during the actual race, giving one of the other contenders a shot at the top spots. But for now, Sebastian Vettel and Mark Webber are the clear favorites to win, provided it doesn't rain (or some other weather chaos hits) during qualifying or the race.

Like Stinger suggested—just install some sprinklers and hook them up to a timer that goes off randomly. Every single race would be a thrill ride... 🙂

http://www.accuweather.com/world-for...ELONA&metric=1

🙂 🙂 🙂

mistybear87 said:At best, he's seeing what's happening directly behind him. When you're exiting the pit lane, you don't exactly have time to check blind spots, even if you could actually turn your head. 🤣🤣
That's four seconds where he's just staring at the lollipop man, and the moment they signal, he floors it and gets out. Checking mirrors? That's what the guy holding the sign is for. ☕

He’s pulling out perpendicularly, not parallel, so looking left shouldn't be an issue. The idea that they can just rely on someone else to handle this is nonsense. You don't need to hunt for blind spots or obsess over mirrors; just look left and don't pull out like an idiot. Most of these situations would be avoided entirely. It's not like they're in a massive rush during practice or qualifying.

Bradley Nelson2 said:They should be pulling out vertically, not drifting diagonally; looking left shouldn't be an issue at all. This whole argument about how they're just "staying out of someone else's way" is honestly nonsense. You don't need to worry about blind spots or checking mirrors if you just look left and exit properly instead of driving like an idiot. These situations could easily be avoided. Especially during practice and qualifying sessions, there’s really no reason to be in such a frantic rush.

Let's be realistic here—it's not like this guy is driving a beat-up old sedan through a dark suburb, trying to zip out of a Dunkin' Donuts onto a busy highway and frantically checking who's in the next lane.🙏

If an F1 driver can't even look left, they might as well stay home and play rFactor.

Bradley Nelson2 said:If an F1 driver can't even look to his left, he might as well just stay home and play rFactor.

👍

I mean, they seriously should know how to glance over and react differently if there's some kind of mess up!! He doesn't need to stare like a total idiot!! This isn't the first time someone has slammed into someone else after waiting forever!!!!
Glancing left definitely isn't checking a blind spot, and honestly, just looking left would have been enough to see someone coming!!! Exiting a garage is anything but flooring it... while turning, his rear end would've ended up right in the barrier.... Even though we're talking about Formula 1, let's not overreact; he wasn't pinned to the floor exiting the garage. ☕

Here we go again, back to the usual nonsense...
To all you McLaren fans out there: just ask yourselves, would you be making these same complaints if it were Hamilton?

When a driver is exiting the pits, their job is simple: get moving and make sure they don't stall the engine. Checking left, signaling, or making sure pedestrians have the right of way at a crosswalk—that’s the responsibility of the lollipop man. If they didn't penalize Hamilton or Sebastian Vettel for that blatant parallel driving through the pit lane and shoving their way through, I fail to see why Alonso should be penalized for moving. There is an official on the ground—someone who isn't the driver—whose entire job is to assess the situation and signal when it's safe to go. 🤷

Roger Wright94 said:Yeah, this post basically summarizes everything I’ve been saying lately. Honestly, I'm just praying for rain or for Red Bull's engines to give up. Just hoping they show a little mercy to the rest of the grid. It's kind of sad.
I'm totally fed up with it.
As far as I'm concerned, I don't really care about "keeping the championship interesting." Personally, I love seeing the strongest and most dominant force take the win.
So, I'd actually love to see Red Bull just steamroll everyone (since Ferrari isn't even in the fight for the top spot right now) and secure a championship similar to how Michael Schumacher did back in 2002 or 2004.

If they are truly this overwhelmingly powerful—just look at today's qualifying session—they should be winning the race by at least thirty seconds.
That's the only outcome that would give me any reason to compare them to the early 2000s Ferrari era (or even the McLaren dominance from a decade before that).

Bottom line: I'm expecting an absolute execution. Anything less would leave me feeling a bit disappointed.

You can't really compare this to Ferrari's dominance or the Renault years. In the last ten years at the Spanish Grand Prix, neither a Ferrari (even with Michael Schumacher leading the charge) nor a Renault (with Fernando Alonso) nor any other car has shown this level of sheer brutality during practice sessions. Back then, those teams had to fight tooth and nail to build up that kind of gap during the actual race. Now, you have Mark Webber jump into the car and immediately clock a lap time a full second faster than his closest competitor, and he usually does it on his very first attempt.
This marks the fifth race in a row where Red Bull has absolutely decimated the competition in qualifying. If this keeps up, it'll go down in history as the most superior car anyone has ever seen.👍👍

Joshua Newman2 said:Let's get back to talking nonsense, shall we?...
To all you McLaren fans out there, I mean, would you even think to complain if this had happened to Lewis Hamilton?

When a driver is leaving the pits, they basically just need to move and make sure they don't stall the engine. Checking left, signaling, letting pedestrians cross—all that stuff is the responsibility of the lollipop man. If they didn't penalize Lewis Hamilton or Sebastian Vettel for that intentional parallel driving through the pits and squeezing people out, I really don't see why they'd penalize Fernando Alonso for moving when there's someone else (who isn't the driver) responsible for judging the situation and releasing the car at the right time. 🤷

Everything in its right place. 😁

I was actually just discussing this with an old friend, and he said exactly what you did. It's the driver's job to drive, and other people are supposed to handle the rest, like how this guy shouldn't have been released. Luckily, there wasn't any contact, so everything turned out fine. 🙂

Joshua Newman2 said:Here we go again with the nonsense...
You McLaren fans need to take a second and ask yourselves—would you be complaining this much if it were Lewis Hamilton?

When a driver is leaving the pits, they just need to move and make sure they don't stall the engine. Checking left, signaling, letting pedestrians cross... I don't know, that's basically the lollipop man's job. If they didn't penalize Lewis Hamilton and Sebastian Vettel for that intentional parallel driving through the pits and shoving, then I don't see why they'd penalize Fernando Alonso for moving when there's literally a non-driver responsible for watching the situation and releasing them in time. 🤷

Well, I'm definitely not some die-hard McLaren fan!!!
And yeah, you totally forgot to mention tractors, cyclists, and all the other stuff actually in real traffic...
The guy who released him is at fault, but I'm telling you, this isn't an isolated incident, and I've seen smarter people stop in those exact situations!! It's also pretty obvious Alonso was playing dumb just to get out onto a cleaner line... I'm not saying he should be penalized either, but I'm insisting that officials can look at it and react. People are totally overreacting with all this talk about exit speeds and how you "can't look" while driving. ☕

I'll be listening in, eagerly awaiting the 2:00 PM start.🙏

Morgan Murphy7 said:I guess I'll just be sitting here counting down the hours until 2 PM. 🙏

Man, you really hit the nail on the head there. 😁

I honestly can't wait—it feels like it's taking forever. I've already got my popcorn and a soda ready (maybe a beer later, haha 😁). 🙂

I'm just really hoping we get an exciting race that isn't a total snooze fest. 😢

Matthew Wilson50 said:Man, you really hit the nail on the head there. 😁

I honestly can’t wait—I just can’t. I’ve already got my popcorn and a cold soda ready to go. 😁. 🙂

As long as we don't end up watching a snooze-fest of a race, I'll be happy. 😢

... it might be 😁

Joshua Newman2 said:Here we go again with the nonsense...
You McLaren fans need to take a look in the mirror—would you actually be complaining if this happened to Lewis Hamilton?

When a driver is exiting the pits, their only job is to get moving and make sure they don't stall. Looking left, signaling, making sure pedestrians clear the crosswalk—that’s the lollipop man's job. If they didn't penalize the Hamilton-Vettel situation where they were intentionally driving parallel and squeezing each other through the pit lane, I don't see why Alonso should get hit for moving when there's literally a non-driver responsible for watching the gap and releasing people safely. 🤷

It’s definitely stupid to penalize Alonso for this without more info.☕
The lollipop man is at fault here, but he could have easily seen what was happening.
Penalizing him would be pure idiocy. He didn't gain an advantage, didn't hurt anyone; it's just pointless shoving for no reason.

And saying this has anything to do with the Hamilton-Vettel situation? Please. Stop comparing apples to oranges.🙄

Lewis Hamilton exiting the pits and the shoving match between him and Sebastian Vettel was a fight for race position. It matters who gets out first.😉

You can't even theoretically compare a qualifying exit to that. It barely matters if Lewis Hamilton hits the track slightly before or after Nico Rosberg; nobody cares.

Honestly, I’m fine with them letting Fernando Alonso walk without a penalty; the fine they slapped on Ferrari was such a joke it felt like a judge sentencing me to nothing more than a single deep breath🤣🤣
In the end, everything settled itself out... I have no idea why everyone started making such a massive scene about it🤣 🤣

Roger Wright94 said:Yeah, this post is basically just a summary of everything I've been saying lately. Honestly, I’m just praying for rain or for Red Bull to completely fall apart, just so they might show some mercy to the rest of the field. It's pathetic.
I'm sick of it.
As far as I'm concerned, I don't care if the championship stays "exciting." I like seeing the strongest, most dominant force win.
So, I actually want to see Red Bull steamroll everyone—since Ferrari isn't even in the hunt anymore—and take the title the way Michael Schumacher did back in 2002 or 2004.

If they're truly this dominant (like we saw during qualifying today), they should be winning the race by at least thirty seconds.
That's the only outcome that would give me any reason to compare them to the early 2000s Ferrari era (or the McLaren run from a decade before that).

Bottom line, I'm expecting an absolute execution; anything less would honestly leave me feeling a bit let down.

See, I look at it differently; when someone is sitting in a car that's clearly in a league of its own and just demolishing the competition, sure, they deserve an A, but I'm not going to worship them or turn them into some kind of deity, mostly because I find myself rooting for the drivers more than the geniuses who designed the car... For instance, you have one car leading the pack while the two drivers behind them are putting in some of the best drives of their lives—which is exactly what we've seen this season, especially with Lewis Hamilton—so I'm certainly not going to tip my hat to Mark Webber just because he managed to limp his car across the line half a second ahead of everyone else while the guys chasing him were actually giving this new era of F1 some hope. Of course, I'm just talking about how things have played out so far... I'm not trying to predict the future. 😁

man, I’m just sitting here wondering—is it actually gonna pour or what? 🙂
based on this forecast, rain is pretty much a done deal 😉
http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/SPXX0015

but then you look at the live cam and all you see is just a bunch of clouds, even though it's supposed to be dumping by now 😉

http://www.camvista.com/usa/texas...tre-webcam.php