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bluemarlin19 bluemarlin19 MemberOP
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#1 ·
This is a killer documentary that pulls back the curtain on how our food is actually made, the massive industry driving the whole machine, and—more importantly—how we can actually shape the future just by being picky about what's on our plates.

A few things they dive into:
- The meat industry, the fast food giants, and the shady lobbies backing them up,
- The sheer danger of industrial food production and the toll it takes on both our wallets and our health,
- GMOs—specifically the legal nightmare of patenting living organisms and the mess that creates.

While the film focuses on the situation here in the USA, the issues are just as real across Europe and all over America. We need to know what kind of future we’re walking into... unless we decide to change course now.

IMDb rating: 7.9/10
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Ryan Parker38 Ryan Parker38 Member
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#2 ·
bluemarlin19 said:It’s an excellent documentary that breaks down how our food is actually produced, the massive industry driving it all, and how we can shape the future of food production simply by making different choices at the grocery store.

A few key themes covered:
- Industrial meat production, the fast food industry, and the powerful lobbies backing them,
- The dangers of industrial food manufacturing and its impact on both our economy and our health,
- GMOs—specifically the licensing of living organisms and the legal headaches that follow

While the movie focuses on the state of affairs in the USA, the issues are just as relevant here in America and across Europe if we want to be informed about what lies ahead... unless, of course, we decide to change course.

IMDb rating: 7.9/10
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Truly a great documentary. It covers much of the ground that Enghdal discussed in sjeme uništenje.
I definitely recommend this to everyone. For those who aren't big on documentaries, there is also a solid feature film based on this subject called Fast Food Nation.
bluemarlin19 bluemarlin19 MemberOP
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#3 ·
Hannah Hill said:That was an incredible documentary! It really hits on a lot of the points Enghdal made in sjeme uništenje.
I’d highly recommend it to everyone. And hey, if documentaries aren't really your thing, there's also a solid Hollywood movie about this subject called Fast Food Nation.

P.S. You definitely need to check out Fast Food Nation 👍
Grace Newman2 Grace Newman2 Newcomer
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#4 ·
I finally sat down to watch it today. Honestly, I was absolutely floored—it truly gave me goosebumps. I am just incredibly relieved that we don't live in the USA.
Terry Mendoza80 Terry Mendoza80 Member
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#5 ·
Raymond Davis73 said:I watched it today—honestly, it made my skin crawl. Thankfully, we don't live in the USA.

Do you really think we’re eating any healthier over here? 🤔
bluemarlin19 bluemarlin19 MemberOP
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#6 ·
Terry Mendoza80 said:You really think we’re eating anything remotely healthy over here? 🤔

Man, nothing beats life back in the States. 🤣
Jeffrey Martinez2 Jeffrey Martinez2 Member
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#7 ·
bluemarlin19 said:man, everything is just perfect here in America 🤣

yeah right... garlic from China!!!!!👍
Robin Walker Robin Walker Member
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#8 ·
It’s a shame that even documentaries like this—which are nothing but pure truth and hard facts—get ignored by the masses and lumped into the "conspiracy theory" bucket. It’s sad, really, but people just act like sheep. They passively wait to get screwed over, and even when it happens, they just carry on with their lives like nothing changed.

The best part about this film is how clearly it shows the pipeline for people who start out working at corporations like Monsanto and similar outfits, only to land high-level jobs in the government, the Senate, Congress, or various consumer watchdog groups.

We're talking about the same people who, until yesterday, were doing everything possible to alter animal physiology just to fatten them up faster under horrific conditions. Or those who patent corn seeds and stuff like that to grab a monopoly on corn or wheat farming (I watched a similar one a while back). These folks will do literally anything to sell a product to the public, regardless of quality or the health consequences, as long as the price point works for them.

A farmer in the film made a great point: how do you think someone capable of treating animals that way is going to treat people once they step into a political office? And that goes for anyone who grabs a political role or joins a regulatory agency meant to protect consumers. They'll treat people just like those animals—like sheep. But seeing how many actual sheep there are on this planet, I honestly find it hard to wrap my head around. Some people simply don't deserve better because of their own ignorance. Unfortunately, most people are going to have to suffer for it.

This movie is a solid 10/10.

By the way, you should check out the documentary The Cove about that dolphin, Flipper. Remember him? The guy who was his trainer has become the leading advocate against the slaughter of those dolphins, and the movie plays out like a thriller. They head over to Japan with a massive crew of camera operators to film the massacre that the Japanese government has been hiding for ages. Those dolphins are loaded with mercury and other heavy metals. It’s been an established fact for decades, and they even run tests in the film showing that the Japanese government serves that meat to school kids and such. Also a total 10/10.
Grace Newman2 Grace Newman2 Newcomer
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#9 ·
Terry Mendoza80 said:Do you really think we eat healthier food here? 🤔

I can't speak to your specific diet, but personally, I refuse to touch meat raised under those industrial conditions. Back home in the States, if you have a relationship with a local butcher, you actually know where your meat comes from, and we aren't constantly bombarded by all those "organic" labels designed to jack up the price by 300%.

As far as seeds are concerned, I certainly agree that most are genetically modified these days. However, you still have the option to stick to seasonal eating. If you just head down to a local farmers market, you'll find a selection of seasonal produce that many high-end American chefs would kill for right outside their own doors.
fadedseal8 fadedseal8 Active Member
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#10 ·
Raymond Davis73 said:I don't know what your diet looks like, but I won't touch meat raised that way. In the States, if you have a local butcher you actually know, you know where your meat comes from. We aren't yet drowning in all those "organic" labels that jack up the price by 300%.

As for seeds, I agree most are modified. Still, you have the choice to eat seasonally. Just head to a local farmers market; many American chefs would kill for the kind of seasonal produce selection we have right outside our doors.

I partially agree. Thank God we still have variety and quality, but I fear we're headed toward that same "it's organic" nonsense, especially once more regulations kick in. Compare market prices today to ten years ago. My mother used to come home from the market stunned by the prices—"Good grief, fresh cheese $8.25 is actually affordable! I remember when it was $10," etc.
But yeah, the documentary is excellent. 😛
Grace Newman2 Grace Newman2 Newcomer
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#11 ·
Things are only going to get worse, and frankly, I don't see any way out of this mess. The only real solution, if you ask me, would be to buy a house out in the countryside and start growing all your own food from scratch.
bluemarlin19 bluemarlin19 MemberOP
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#12 ·
Ugh, please, just stop. Has anyone actually been to a farmer's market lately? If you're calling that stuff "locally sourced," then I'm from Mars. They’re selling the exact same produce you find at Whole Foods, just with a massive markup. Americans have the same selection right at their local grocery stores without having to shell out a fortune. I mean, why on earth would you pay $8 for a single carton of soy milk or $12 for a loaf of whole grain bread at a boutique market like $3.25!!!!! And don't even get me started on those pretentious "health food" spots—you know, those places run by people like Macron serving up tiny little salads made of $13. Honestly, everyone involved should be embarrassed, especially the people actually handing over their cash for this nonsense...
Daniel Fisher7 Daniel Fisher7 Newcomer
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#13 ·
I was watching the program last night, and if I have to pick one thing that truly stood out to me, it would be the sheer, unadulterated courage shown by certain farmers who stood their ground against those corporate executives, even though it meant sacrificing their own immediate profits. It was quite moving, really. And then you see those same suits demanding all these expensive new technological upgrades for the farms—upgrades that seem designed specifically to make life more difficult for the local growers and ensure they never even consider breaking away from the family business. It’s a calculated way to maintain control, isn't it? Honestly, it’s just plain tragic to witness... I’d give it a 9/10.
Austin Collins5 Austin Collins5 Member
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#14 ·
I have to admit, watching that was pretty rough. But from what I’ve gathered online, they're starting to get those farmers markets popping up in all the major cities, so maybe things are finally looking up.
fadedseal8 fadedseal8 Active Member
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#15 ·
bluemarlin19 said:Give me a break. Has anyone actually stepped foot in a farmers market lately? If you think that stuff is "local," you’re dreaming. They’re selling the exact same produce you find at any grocery store, just at a premium. Americans have the same selection at their local supermarkets, except they aren't paying a fortune for a carton of soy milk or a loaf of whole grain bread at a place like a high-end urban market $3.25!!!!! Then there are all those "health food" spots inspired by people like Macron with their overpriced salads $13... honestly, everyone should be embarrassed, especially the people lining up to pay for it.

It's true. You'll run into plenty of vendors trying to pass off imported tomatoes as local for an insane markup—you only realize it once you actually taste them. But decent local food does exist if you know where to look. The best move is to stick with the same vendors you've used for years; then you can actually trust what you're buying.
Ultimately, prices are going up regardless. Between the economy and European Union regulations, most people will end up stuck buying processed goods from big-box retailers like Walmart, while the "wealthy" class gets to claim they're eating organic. 🙄
Robin Walker Robin Walker Member
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#16 ·
It’s honestly not hard to figure them out. There’s an entire army of people out there just swallowing whatever they're fed—whether it’s food brands, pharmaceutical ads, or those lectures about spreading democracy globally. Truth be told, most of these folks get exactly what they deserve. Their own ignorance and apathy basically hand them the results.

On the flip side, you can see people starting to wake up. Movies like this are hitting the mainstream, winning Oscars, and actually grabbing people's attention. That matters. Maybe one day the ratio of sheep to thinkers will finally tip in favor of the thinkers, and making real progress won't be such an uphill battle.
velvetdrifter86 velvetdrifter86 Member
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#17 ·
Robin Walker said:The best part about this movie is how it really nails the way those people... They usually start out working at big corporations like Monsanto. Same here, honestly. And then they land themselves a sweet gig working for the government, the Senate, Congress, or one of those consumer watchdog groups. It's a pretty smooth ride.

I think it’s pretty clear this hits organizations like the World Trade Organization too. It's just more proof that chasing a profit never really lines up with the public good. Human greed always seems to win out in the end.
They’re even claiming these mega-corps aren't just about the money anymore—since they've already got plenty of that—but instead, it's this sick obsession with total control and power. It honestly feels like a modern-day replay of some pretty dark historical tactics.
Robin Walker Robin Walker Member
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#18 ·
velvetdrifter86 said:I think they unfortunately impact organizations like the World Trade Organization too. It’s just more proof that chasing profit doesn't play nice with the public good. Human greed always wins out.
Some people have even argued that these mega-corps aren't even about money anymore—since they have plenty of that—but rather a sick obsession with control and power. It's almost like seeing Nazi-style tactics playing out in modern society.

Exactly. The biggest issue is that certain corporations basically hold an absolute monopoly in their industries. As this documentary shows, there's nobody actually keeping them in check because those regulators are often part of the same circle. These associations basically act as PR shields for the public, much like how politics serves as a front for big banks and industry.

There isn't a cure for this as long as people stay uneducated and uninterested. People should be the ones dictating how things work, but most just want someone to hold their hand through life. That "parental" figure ends up being whatever professors say, what they hear on the news, or whatever the government decides to implement.
If you're one of those people who rebels or suggests that maybe killing Afghans isn't the smartest move, you just get labeled an outcast or an anti-American. If you don't want GMO food, you're called ignorant because scientists say it's fine. It goes on forever. Mommy and Daddy say it'll be okay, and so people believe it. It's honestly funny watching how people function. Hardly anyone uses their own brain these days.
velvetdrifter86 velvetdrifter86 Member
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#19 ·
I’d definitely suggest checking out The Corporation too. Monsanto plays a role in this as well.

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