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Amanda Ruiz54 Amanda Ruiz54 NewcomerOP
2 messages
joined Sep 2007
#1 ·
The fact that this conversation is being forced into a new thread through the senseless closing of the previous one is clearly not going to silence me—heaven forbid—because the core issue remains unresolved, and it will stay that way as long as it continues to be ignored. Just because you can’t delete my user account doesn't mean the matter is settled, despite what Mr. Nex seems to believe... Mr. Nex, might I ask if your actual profession is a locksmith? Because the purpose of moderation isn't to lock down a thread just so it "doesn't turn into a kokošinjac," but rather to manage the discussion and penalize those who attempt to turn it into one. I assume you aren't some kindergarten teacher deciding whether or not I've said enough in my posts. Nor am I your punching bag for frustrations, your plaything, or some little chick from the kokošinjac... It appears that you, much like a handful of your close moderator colleagues, have forgotten the fundamental reality that I am not here for your benefit, but rather you are here for mine; I am the client, you are the service provider, and your job is to ensure client satisfaction, is it not? 🙂

And at this moment, I am quite dissatisfied, given that by swiftly shuttering the previous thread and ignoring my explicit request to reopen it, you have effectively coerced me into starting this new topic—which, let’s be honest, was entirely unnecessary. But since we are here, let us begin anew;

The conduct of the moderation team on the Women's Corner is, to put it mildly, unacceptable. Despite being a long-standing member of this community, I have never encountered such behavior, nor do I intend to tolerate it moving forward. A few days ago, I initiated a potentially compelling discussion on the Women's Corner regarding the very existence of gender-segregated sections, with the intent of sparking a broader, more serious debate about gender dynamics and primary discrimination. From my opening post, it is perfectly evident that;

- I did not insult anyone
- I did not violate any forum rules
- and any intelligent participant would likely understand that it was never my intention to dismantle the forum's social order, even if that order itself is highly debatable as it stands.


Following the launch of the topic, I experienced technical issues with your server (as I noted in one of my posts), which prevented me from immediately engaging in the "debate" that, aside from a few infantile provocations, had barely even begun. In the meantime, without a single word of explanation from the moderators, my topic was moved to "kokošinjac" with the clear intent of reducing it to mindless babbling—presumably because certain amateurish moderators failed to grasp the point of the topic, which, I must reiterate, was NOT to abolish gendered spaces. (And even if it were, I fail to see why that would be an issue, other than perhaps bruising the egos of those who rely on the moderator's stick to maintain control).
Naturally, after that, the "party" began, where a frenzied mob—bolstered by enthusiastic moderator approval—attacked and insulted me using every means at their disposal, while completely trolling the thread.
After I, having no real hope of defending myself against such a hysterical crowd and receiving no response from the moderation to my public inquiry as to why the thread was relegated to the kokošinjac, finally returned an insult to one (1) forum member, I AM the one receiving a warning??!! issued by that very same moderation team, which did everything in its power to allow everyone to "caste" me with their vast arsenal of vitriol, a situation that continued well beyond my further participation.
In short: I simply opened a discussion that, with the blessing of the moderators, devolved into exactly what it became—uncultured, primitive, and outright rude behavior.

It is made all the more egregious by the fact that one of the moderators, redmarlin3, took the liberty of publicly disclosing my personal information by stating my age in a post. First of all, my age is private data, and without my express permission, the moderation of this forum has no right to disclose anything regarding my real life—including my age, which is entirely irrelevant to this forum or this specific topic, whether I am twenty-one or fifty-one; that is my business. However, perhaps you require a reminder of your own rules:

On this platform, you define your own level of anonymity. The site administration guarantees that all data you choose not to disclose will be kept strictly confidential. The sole exception would be a legal mandate, such as a police warrant or a court order, which compels us to provide a user's IP address during an active investigation.

It’s a shame, really. This used to be a high-quality forum... But since you seem incapable of addressing my previous request, I am certain you can manage to fulfill the following requirements instead;

- that the Women's Corner moderation team offers me a public apology for undermining my threads and inciting other users to engage in trolling, mockery, and insults.

- that I receive a specific apology from that chicken-brained redmarlin3, who was largely responsible for the "unhinged chaos" currently unfolding here.

- that my thread over on Kokosinjac be purged of all this mindless clucking and moved to the Psychology section, where I intend to develop it into a coherent discussion.


There. I trust my demands aren't excessive, considering the mistakes you've made and your utterly biased, unprofessional conduct, for which there was clearly no legitimate reason. Of course, it is your prerogative to ignore my concerns or continue moving and locking my threads, but please bear in mind that I have archived everything... and if necessary, I will be forced to take this directly to the owner of the parent network, or more precisely, the Editor-in-Chief.
I am hoping for a constructive resolution, and therefore, Mr. Nex, if you find yourself struck by that uncontrollable urge to lock a thread again, I suggest you exercise some restraint and leave the matter to a higher authority...
cosmicskipper39 cosmicskipper39 Active Member
71 messages
joined Jan 2012
#2 ·
Look, Amanda Ruiz54, I think you’re taking these little forum bickering matches way too seriously.
Anyone who starts a thread—whether it actually makes sense or not—is basically signing up for the risk of getting mocked or poked fun at.

Honestly? I highly doubt the mods are ever going to apologize for how they handle things, and don't expect anyone to go trolling your thread over on the psychology board either.
Just start looking at this forum like it's some kind of playground. If you do, you won't feel the need to write these massive essays about moderation issues or how "unfairly" you've been treated.

Besides, in the real world, it's pretty much "do what your boss tells you," and you can pretty much expect the same vibe here.
Amanda Ruiz54 Amanda Ruiz54 NewcomerOP
2 messages
joined Sep 2007
#3 ·
cosmicskipper39 said:Dear Amanda Ruiz54, it seems you’re taking these little forum bickering matches far too seriously...
Anyone who starts a thread—whether it makes sense or not—is essentially inviting the "danger" of being mocked or ridiculed by others.

I highly doubt the mods are going to issue any apologies for their actions, nor will anyone be trolling your thread over on the psychology board.
Just think of this forum as a playground; if you do, you won't feel the need to write these massive manifestos about moderation issues and the perceived injustices being dealt to you.

Besides, in the real world, there's that old saying about following orders from your boss, and you can pretty much expect the same dynamic here...

Dear cosmicskipper39,

thank you for the unsolicited advice... 🙂 Rest assured, I am perfectly aware of what this forum is and what it isn't— it isn't some lawless wasteland where moderators can just act out against female users at will. Or, to put it more bluntly, if you (or anyone else) choose to tolerate that kind of behavior, that's your prerogative, but I certainly won't. Whether they decide to apologize and attempt a constructive resolution to fix their mistakes remains to be seen, as they are clearly in the wrong, but I will absolutely take further action if they do not make things right.

Srdacan regards,
Aaron Harris2 Aaron Harris2 Member
41 messages
joined Jan 2008
#4 ·
Should we clear out the coop to stop all the clucking? 🤔

And then what will be left... truly? 🤷
😁

In any case, you should go ahead and start a proper thread over in Psychology, because this is actually a fascinating question—why do people feel such a desperate need for their own little corner? Is it born from insecurity, or perhaps a sense of self-satisfaction (though I won't say self-gratification, lol), or maybe it’s driven by a desire to engage in certain internal sexist rhetoric, or whatever else might be the cause? It would be quite revealing to see how people react.
Or better yet, move it over to Men's Corner if the ladies refuse to migrate it from Women's Corner.

As for me, I shall ensure the discussion is handled with proper decorum. FER? 😉
(disclaimer: this is not a Trojan horse)
cosmicskipper39 cosmicskipper39 Active Member
71 messages
joined Jan 2012
#5 ·
Amanda Ruiz54, you better watch what you say on MK because 😂Aaron Harris2
basically dropped a massive middle finger right in my face over that topic.
And honestly? You know what? I wasn't even mad about it. 🙂
Aaron Harris2 Aaron Harris2 Member
41 messages
joined Jan 2008
#6 ·
The subject at hand was Handsome Men. 🙂

I must say, attempting to glorify the physical perfection of Bruce Willis and Orlando Blum is simply beneath the standards of Kokosinjac, if you'll excuse my bluntness. 😁
cosmicskipper39 cosmicskipper39 Active Member
71 messages
joined Jan 2012
#7 ·
The main thing is that I handled closing this thread properly without throwing a fit at the mods, and honestly, everything else is just splitting hairs. 😁
Amanda Ruiz54 Amanda Ruiz54 NewcomerOP
2 messages
joined Sep 2007
#8 ·
Aaron Harris2 said:Should we finally clear the coop of all that incessant clucking...? 🤔

Not Kokosinjac. This is strictly my own topic...

Well, why don't you just go ahead and start a proper thread over in the Psychology section...

I appreciate the constructive suggestion, but this isn't about some rigid sense of principle on my part. My issue isn't with the act of opening a thread itself, but rather with a specific error made by the moderation team that needs to be rectified. Is that truly such an insurmountable issue, or have a few certain moderators simply convinced themselves they’re sitting up on Olympus...🙄

Because that really is an interesting question...

It’s a fascinating question, I’ll give you that. But honestly, it isn’t my burden to shoulder when someone possesses a mind far too primitive to grasp the complexities of such a matter...
cosmicskipper39 cosmicskipper39 Active Member
71 messages
joined Jan 2012
#9 ·
Amanda Ruiz54 said:Of course it’s an interesting question. Honestly, it’s not my fault if a chicken brain is way too primitive to grasp something like this...

With an attitude like that, you won't last five minutes even on a farm in Iowa. 😢

I wish you luck regardless, but honestly? You're just tilting at windmills. 😘
Amanda Ruiz54 Amanda Ruiz54 NewcomerOP
2 messages
joined Sep 2007
#10 ·
cosmicskipper39 said:With an attitude like that, you won't last five minutes even on Kokosinjac... 😢

Well, I’m actually looking forward to it, considering I was dragged there against my will, remember?... 🙂

And as for "surviving" in a general sense... just wait and see who's actually left standing... ☕
cosmicskipper39 cosmicskipper39 Active Member
71 messages
joined Jan 2012
#11 ·
Amanda Ruiz54 said:Ugh, I’m actually counting down the minutes. Like I had a choice being stuck there against my will, remember? 🙂

And as for survival in general? Please. Just sit back and watch who's still standing when the dust settles. ☕

Hang in there, girl. Goodnight! 🙂
Amanda Ruiz54 Amanda Ruiz54 NewcomerOP
2 messages
joined Sep 2007
#12 ·
cosmicskipper39 said:Hang in there, honey, and have a good night...🙂

Well, that’s what happens when you try to play nice with a fox—you end up as nothing more than its dinner...😢
redmarlin3 redmarlin3 Active Member
132 messages
joined Apr 2010
#13 ·
Your age isn't some confidential secret; you actually went ahead and shared it yourself in one of your other threads.

As for the rest of this... I'm not even going to bother commenting. Honestly, the way you framed this whole topic, it was always bound to spiral exactly where it's heading right now.
placidmarlin3 placidmarlin3 Member
45 messages
joined Apr 2013
#14 ·
Aaron Harris2 said:So, we're supposed to clean out the coop to stop all the clucking? 🤔

And then what's left behind... what exactly? 🤷
😁

Honestly, you should just start a proper thread over in Psychology, because this is actually an interesting question—why do people feel the need to have their own little corner? Is it driven by insecurity, or perhaps self-indulgence... or let's call it what it is, self-gratification, lol, maybe it's a desire for some internal sexist chatter, or whatever the reason may be. Let's see how people react to that.
Or better yet, move it to Men's Corner if the ladies refuse to migrate it from Žkokošinjac.

As for me, I'll make sure to moderate it decently. FER? 😉
(Disclaimer: this isn't a Trojan horse)

I suspect this is just a bit of humor in the local style that would probably reach its peak if it were moved over to Men's Corner.
The only guys on Men's Corner who could remotely be considered halfway decent ended up swarming the Women's Corner at one point just to mislead the author—whether that was due to chauvinism, sheer primitivism, or a touch of malice simply because she happens to be from the USA.

In my personal opinion, the only subforums where this topic stands a respectable chance are Psychology or perhaps Philosophy.
Amanda Ruiz54 Amanda Ruiz54 NewcomerOP
2 messages
joined Sep 2007
#15 ·
redmarlin3 said:Your age isn't exactly some protected piece of private information, considering you went ahead and shared it yourself in one of those threads you started...

Am I? If I ever mentioned them, that’s my business, not yours to regulate... Your freedom doesn't grant you authority over mine... You simply have no right... I am telling you now, do not even think about bringing my personal information into this conversation, under any circumstances whatsoever... nor should you attempt to project your own deep-seated insecurities onto me by playing at being some sort of "authority figure" while you spend your time chasing chickens around the coop; frankly, I find the whole display utterly unimpressive. As for the concept of a competent moderator, it is clearly a standard that none of you are even remotely capable of reaching...

The way this thread was framed has steered the entire conversation exactly where I knew it would end up...

The way this entire topic has unfolded, truly, is all thanks to you... It’s just treated that way... From the very beginning, this individual has been nothing short of primitive and utterly disrespectful. If you lack the basic decency to admit to that fact, then you can expect to find yourselves—complete with copies of every single one of these posts and a full record of your conduct—facing a formal grievance regarding the culture of this forum right on the owner's desk. The choice is yours...
redmarlin3 redmarlin3 Active Member
132 messages
joined Apr 2010
#16 ·
Every single word you’ve ever posted on this forum is public record. Any member here has every right to bring up something you said in another thread if they feel like it. If you can't wrap your head around how a community works, I honestly don't know how else to put it for you...

Secondly, you got your answer to the question pretty damn fast. Again, if you're having trouble processing that, that's really not my problem.

As for that little threat of yours... geez, my knees are shaking. I'm absolutely terrified. ☕
Michelle Alvarez8 Michelle Alvarez8 Regular
299 messages
joined Nov 2015
#17 ·
Amanda Ruiz54 said:The way the moderators are acting over at Women's Corner is—to put it lightly—totally unacceptable.

Do me a favor and head over to Fashion—tell them how absolutely unhinged it is when a mom posts a photo kissing her five-year-old daughter on the mouth, only for everyone in the comments to act like it’s totally normal? Just let me know how that goes! 😁

By the way—maybe ask the admin how they manage to have clones while the rest of us just get stuck being ourselves? Seriously, how does that even work?
Michelle Alvarez8 Michelle Alvarez8 Regular
299 messages
joined Nov 2015
#18 ·
Aaron Harris2 said:The topic was supposed to be about handsome men. 🙂

I mean, obsessing over how good Bruce Willis and Orlando Blum look? That’s definitely more of a Kokosinjac thing—sorry! 😁

It's nothing like Men's Corner, where everyone is just swooning over curvy poker players or fit gym rats. 🎉
Jason Gonzalez7 Jason Gonzalez7 Member
19 messages
joined Nov 2007
#19 ·
Amanda Ruiz54 said:The way this thread has been handled by all of you from the very beginning is incredibly primitive and rude. If you don't have the decency to admit it, you'll end up facing a formal complaint regarding forum conduct sent directly to the owner, complete with copies of every single post. That's your choice...

Let's be honest, this thread is being harassed. Instead of everyone just being genderless, we actually want to do things. Some people even want to do them at the dinner table... 😲

I am fully in favor of abolishing gender categories altogether. Honestly, the only reason I ever identified as a woman was because of Clive Owen (who is a man). When I sent him a letter (a brief prenuptial agreement), his response was:

Thank you for your letter, Catros. I'm very proud to have you as my fan.

He thinks I'm just a fan, and he'll never realize how much I truly love him or actually follow through on things... 😕

That's why, as a fan, I support getting rid of genders. I'm backing this movement on the complaints board, the one over on Women's Corner, more efficient labor forces, and subsidized exports of American tech to the United Kingdom...
Amanda Ruiz54 Amanda Ruiz54 NewcomerOP
2 messages
joined Sep 2007
#20 ·
redmarlin3 said:nonsense blah blah

Look, Kokodicna Herp, we aren't living in some , so I’d appreciate it if you would refrain from throwing around such baseless accusations... As for understanding actual capacity, I fear that particular concept might be a bit too advanced for those gray cells of yours to grasp... And regarding your dignity, you might want to hold onto it a little tighter...

Brenda Carter96 said:Let’s be honest, this topic is being unfairly targeted. Instead of everyone acting like they have no desires, we should just get on with it. Some even prefer doing it on the table. 😲

That is a rather pathetic attempt to justify your incompetent sub-moderators, if not yourselves... You could certainly do much better than that, Castro...

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