Classical music: Psychopath energy before a massacre!

coastalhawk13 said:just head over to the synth thread if you want to see how gay it really is🥳

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But honestly, what's actually more gay:



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I guess I'm undecided on this one, so I'll let the music make the call. And the answer is...

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MOZART!

P.S. yeah, his Requiem is solid, no lie.

http://earsucker.com/wp-content/uplo...yn_manson1.jpg

He’s just the gayest...

As for the whole "classical music equals psychopath" trope, movies are definitely responsible for pushing that narrative. I agree, it's all about how they amplify the effect...
Still, there is something much more unsettling about being hunted by an intellectual acquaintance who tracks your every move and knows your exact whereabouts, rather than some low-level thug who barely finished middle school...🙄
Just imagine the sheer number of ways someone like that could kill you, and exactly how much they could prolong your agony... 😍

Charles Manson isn't gay, he's just a total nerd.

And the second part is facts. It's all just those irritating Hannibal Lecter spikes.

Adam Moore said:don't sweat it, Mozart is the devil and he totally ruined the Youth movement 😈

What youth movement?! Most kids these days are just obsessed with mainstream pop junk..
Not even worth my breath. I'm staying out of this one.

Linda Kim30 said:What Youth movement?! Most kids today are just obsessed with populist politics...
Not worth my breath. I'm staying out of this.

Mozart was essentially the catalyst for Beethoven's descent into madness. Even as a kid, he planted those morbid, anarchic notions about broken musical structures right in his head. Mozart was a corruptor of the Youth movement, plain and simple—this case proves it. Young people need structure and stability in their lives, not pure anarchy.

placidlynx23 said:Mozart was basically the reason Beethoven lost his mind. He planted these twisted, anarchic ideas about broken musical structures right in his head when he was just a kid. Anyway, Mozart is a total corruptor of the Youth movement, and this is proof enough. Kids need structure and stability, not total anarchy.

😂 Mozart inspired Beethoven to develop an entirely new musical language..

So you're basing that whole theory on one pathetic example that isn't even true?! You're totally out of arguments...

placidlynx23 said:Mozart was essentially the catalyst for Beethoven's descent into madness—he planted these morbid, anarchic musical concepts in his head while he was still just a young man. In my view, Mozart acts as a corruptor of the Youth movement, and this is a perfect illustration of that. Young people need structure and stability in their lives, not pure anarchy.

So, are we saying Mozart was a punk rocker? 😕

Brandon Kim96 said:So, was Mozart basically a punk rocker? 😕

placidlynx23 clearly thinks so.

Mozart’s sheer flamboyance has been driving people insane for generations. It’s just a plain fact.

And like I said, those anarchic ideas of his were enough to rattle even Beethoven.

P.S. That decadence and anarchy is baked right into the musical structure itself—it's fundamentally "incorrect." Looking at it now, postmodernism basically started with Mozart; most people just didn't catch on (which is probably for the best, otherwise they would have lost their minds).

By the way, Mireille, you didn't actually say anything to disprove my original point.

placidlynx23 said:Mozart’s sheer campiness has been driving people insane for generations. And that's a FACT!

And like I said, his anarchist vibes totally messed with Beethoven's head too.

P.S. That whole decadent, anarchist streak is baked right into the musical structure—it’s fundamentally "incorrect." Looking closer, postmodernism basically started with Mozart; most people just didn't catch on (which is probably for the best, otherwise they would've lost their minds).

Anyway, Mireille, you haven't actually said anything to disprove my original point.

1. Who even are you to decide what a "correct" musical structure is?
2. Mozart was a straight-up genius and there's no way around that, and
3. You don't even know what you're talking about.

1. Any structure harboring elements of chaos is fundamentally broken, standing against both God and the State
2. And what does one even mean by "genius"?
3. You haven't actually proven that yet

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placidlynx23 said:1. Any structure that lets chaos creep in is broken. Plain and simple. It’s an affront to God and the State.
So, what does "genius" actually mean? Like, seriously. Everyone throws that word around these days, right? It’s become this cheap, empty label you slap on anything that isn't totally mediocre. People act like if someone can solve a math equation or play a few chords on a piano, they’ve unlocked some divine secret. It’s nonsense. Most people think being a genius is just about having a high IQ or being some kind of walking encyclopedia. They see someone like Mozart and think, "Oh, he was born with a cheat code." But that's not it. It's more about that weird, obsessive drive that borders on insanity. It’s the ability to see patterns where everyone else just sees noise. Honestly, most "geniuses" I've encountered are just people who refused to stop staring at a problem long after everyone else went home to grab a beer. It's less about brilliance and more about a specific kind of relentless, borderline annoying fixation. But hey, that's just my take. Probably wrong. Whatever.
3. You still haven't proven that to me.

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Are you even reading what you're typing?! This makes zero sense. Like, what does the State have to do with any of this? 😲

Look, it doesn't matter what I say to you. Nothing I drop is ever going to be "enough" for your standards, so why even bother? You’re just going to dig your heels in and stick to your script anyway. Honestly, I don't have that kind of time to waste on a debate that's already decided. I'm out.

It’s actually been scientifically proven that most serial killers throughout history have cited Tchaikovsky's 'Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy' as their absolute favorite track. ☕

If we want some actual peace and quiet in this world, everyone just needs to start listening to MP THOMPSON, amen!

Extreme violence inspired by Beethoven

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xdQNrk9lcI

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AAAhhhh, the glory of the ninth 😎

I find myself listening to Dvorák most of the time—he just really hits the spot for me! On the flip side, I find Chopin pretty incredibly boring, to be honest ☕
Hopefully I’m not some kind of psychopath 😁

Dana Robinson7 said:It’s basically a scientific fact that most serial killers in history picked Tchaikovsky's 'Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy' as their favorite track. ☕

If we want actual peace and stability on this planet, everyone just needs to start listening to MP Thompson. Amen.

Personally, Tchaikovsky is the goat, especially that Nutcracker suite.

Hard not to love it.

Scott Davis32 said:I mostly listen to Dvorák lately. He just hits different for me, whereas Chopin feels pretty mind-numbing, honestly.☕
hopefully I'm not a total psychopath😁

Only time will tell..😁 😉

Linda Kim30 said:Do you even realize what you're typing?! That just doesn't make any sense at all. What does the State have to do with this at all?! 😲

Just because you listen to serious music doesn't mean you have to be such a serious person yourself...
You really ought to try tapping into that sense of humor a bit more...

And yeah, back in his 8mm days, Machin used to get all revved up listening to Aphex's Come to Daddy, which honestly feels like much more fitting music for him, though he still had that whole boy-next-door vibe where you'd never suspect a thing...

placidlynx23 said:Mozart was the reason behind Beethoven's madness because he instilled morbid, anarchic ideas about poorly structured music into his mind during his youth. In any case, Mozart is a corrupting influence on youth, as evidenced by this example. Young people require structure and stability in life, not anarchy.

It has been quite some time since I have encountered this much nonsense in a single thread.
How exactly did Mozart cause Beet's insanity?
What specific ideas supposedly planted in his head?
And what does being a "corruptor of youth" even mean in this context?
Finally, provide a legitimate source for these claims, as I am genuinely curious to see the explanation behind such absurdity.
Furthermore, it is interesting that you label his music as Mozart gay simply because it is cheerful, which is factually incorrect. Listen to his repertoire before passing judgment instead of making baseless assertions. By your logic, anyone who enjoys anything upbeat is gay, while only somber, grim individuals are considered "legitimate."
Additionally, where is the data suggesting that all or most psychopaths listen to classical music? Your comparison implying that "intelligent" psychopaths favor classical while gangs listen to rap—suggesting the former deserve admiration—is flawed. A psychopath is a psychopath regardless of their musical preference, and they do not deserve admiration for it. Besides, what difference does it make what people listened to prior to the twentieth century?
If you are going to post such nonsense, at least listen to some classical music beyond just a Requiem or the Ninth Symphony before commenting.