Psychology mods: Discussion thread on sexual assault

Topic: sexual assault, subject: all posts by Characterless.

I see she was slapped with a warning, but her posts are still up there.

There's a woman in the sexual assault thread arguing that it isn't a trauma, but actually a pleasure. Meanwhile, an actual survivor wrote that such depraved comments made her weep. 😢

Frankly, any decent person would feel sick to their stomach reading this verbal diarrhea, let alone someone who has actually endured those horrors and carries the resulting trauma. It’s honestly nauseating to realize there are people out there who actually think like Characterless, and a little digital warning flag in the corner of a post doesn't make that reality any easier to swallow.

http://forum.us/showpost.php?p=13101236&postcount=12
http://forum.us/showpost.php?p=13101531&postcount=14
http://forum.us/showpost.php?p=13102133&postcount=25
http://forum.us/showpost.php?p=13102226&postcount=27
.... (and plenty more)

Characterless said:I don't really get why sexual assault leaves traumas. I mean, I know everyone's going to attack me now, but I truly don't understand, please don't blame me. If someone could explain...

Characterless said:Whether it's an object or a toy... it's a pleasurable sensation. Something women crave...
If things turn violent, then we can talk about a crime. But that falls under physical abuse, not sexual. Sex itself isn't abuse; it's pleasure.

Characterless said:Well, people force things on me every single day—things I don't want to do—and I'm just someone else's object daily, so I don't have "trauma" and I'm not running to the police to report it. Why is entering intimate areas such a terrifying thing when, in reality, sex is meant to be pleasurable and a woman can experience an orgasm during a rape. Not to mention how they dress just to provoke men, and then act like victims.
They say women have lower drives than men, but if I were a man, I'd rape a woman like that because her behavior and clothing are asking for it. But whatever, it's hard to rape a man.

Children are a different topic.

And I won't even repeat the other delusions...

Please, delete these posts.

The whole subject has completely veered off course, and honestly, the number of jerks out there just keeps climbing. 😢

What Characterless is writing here is likely just a psychological defense mechanism stemming from some form of childhood trauma or ongoing abuse. It is entirely possible she uses this approach to cope with her own narrative, but for the sake of everyone else involved, she needs to be removed from the conversation.

mistyangler46 said:I suspect what Characterless is doing is likely just a defense mechanism stemming from some childhood trauma or abuse she endured—and maybe still is dealing with. It might be her way of processing things personally, but for everyone else involved, she really needs to be removed.

Honestly, I don't care about her motivations at this point; we're just going to end up alienating people who haven't even done anything wrong.

Where are the psychology mods? 🤷

Psychology allows for all sorts of perspectives, even the ones that stray far from the norm. Characterless isn't the only user who's held a different take on the nature of trauma or sexual assault itself. When those posts crossed the line, they got flagged or deleted. Personally, I don't think it's such a bad idea to let some of them stay up; we're talking about people's actual thoughts, the kind you encounter in the real world. It's better to counter them with logic and arguments rather than just pretending people with extreme views don't exist.

Gary James88 said:In psychology circles, you’re bound to run into all sorts of perspectives and attitudes, including views that deviate significantly from the norm. Characterless isn't the only user who has voiced a non-traditional take regarding the nature of sexual assault and its psychological impact. In instances where posts actually crossed the line, they were flagged or even deleted. Personally, I don't think it's a bad idea to let some of those discussions breathe; after all, we're talking about people's actual thoughts—the kind of stuff you encounter in the real world every day. It feels more productive to counter extreme viewpoints with solid arguments rather than just turning a blind eye to the fact that people around us hold beliefs we might find radical.

Can you really break the rules on the forum just because it's a psychology discussion? 😠

It is prohibited on the forum:
...to justify or glorify criminal acts

Gary James88 said:I think we should just let some of these posts stay up since they’re just people's thoughts. You run into this kind of stuff in the real world anyway, so it's better to hit them with logic instead of just ignoring the fact that there are people out there with views we find totally extreme.

Oh, so would you let people post that victims of domestic abuse basically asked for it?
Or on a thread about child sexual abuse, would you leave up comments saying kids actually enjoy being touched inappropriately?

Because hey, those are just more "thoughts" people have in the "real world."

Gary James88 said:...maybe some of those posts should just stay up. Since they're just people's thoughts—the kind of stuff you run into in the real world—it might be better to counter them with actual arguments rather than ignoring the fact that there are people all around us who hold views we find extreme.

Look, victims of sexual assault already know evil exists. So, if the only reason to leave comments from toxic or even mentally unstable people up is to "warn" potential victims that the world is full of creeps... I guess that's just pointless.
These "views" aren't extreme because of any deep ideology; they're just extreme in their sheer stupidity. You'll always find groups of losers who want to blame a victim's outfit for what happened. There’s plenty of them. You can't use logic to convince that crowd that clothing doesn't justify assault. They'll just keep reading threads like this, fantasizing about hurting women.
Do you really think they deserve a platform to satisfy themselves?

This is absolutely appalling.
Comments like these are completely spineless and I am honestly at a loss for words; I find it hard to believe that this kind of rhetoric is even tolerated in our society.
It is a direct insult to every survivor who has endured sexual assault, to the immense pain they’ve carried, and to the lifelong traumas they have had to navigate.
While I recognize that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I don't even know how to categorize this; it transcends being merely extreme—it is pathological and profoundly callous.
It is truly disheartening that anyone could hold such a worldview. 👎

spineless said:why is penetration considered such a horror now, when sex is inherently pleasurable and women can experience orgasm during an assault? Not to mention how they dress just to provoke men and then act surprised when things happen.
I've heard people say women have less drive than men, but if I were a man, I would rape a woman like that because her behavior and clothing are practically asking for it. But then again, it's pretty difficult to rape a man.

If someone views this as nothing more than an extreme opinion, then I am truly speechless...

It’s honestly pathetic that this kind of content even makes it onto a forum. And the fact that posts like this aren't being scrubbed immediately? Just sad.
It isn't just sad, though. It's downright ugly. 👎

Clearly, this topic is too sensitive for us to be dissecting everyone's biases and attitudes right now—it's just not the right time or place. After everything that’s been said here, any problematic posts will be removed...

Gary James88 said:Clearly, this subject is far too volatile for us to sit here dissecting biases and viewpoints; it’s neither the right venue nor the right moment for such a debate. Given the arguments presented, the controversial posts will be removed...

Brilliant.