CheckEmoji Community · the emoji forum
🏠 Home 🆕 What's new ❓ Unanswered 🔥 Popular 📡 RSS Members 👥 0 online log in · register
Home › Miscellaneous › Feedback & Suggestions › Moderating the "Military History and Technology" subforum

Moderating the "Military History and Technology" subforum

Started by Peter Reed70 · · 👁 4 views · 10 replies

📡 Subscribe to replies

Participants Peter Reed70northernsailor8ironranger67Michelle EvansSteven Perez6driftingheron23William Bennett53Mark Harris66
Peter Reed70 Peter Reed70 Active MemberOP
77 messages
joined Oct 2015
#1 ·
Just us forum folks, hanging out and talking shop every single day on the PDF! Military History and Technology Has anyone else noticed this? Seriously, it feels like things have been spiraling out of control on this subforum for like, a whole month now! Everything is just going totally off the rails!

Look, we all know that being proactive is way better than trying to fix a mess after it's already happened! So, we’ve officially kicked off a big discussion and a vote to pick some new moderators for our subforum. Let's get this moving! I can't believe I finally found this thread! Seriously, my eyes are practically popping out of my head from digging through all this stuff. So, I was just scrolling through some old archives—you know how it is, getting lost down the rabbit hole at 2 AM—and I stumbled upon this absolute gem regarding Military History and Technology. It’s wild how much things change, right? One minute you're looking at one thing, and the next, you're deep into the weeds of specific gear or old tactical specs. Wait, did Peter Reed70 actually say that about the ammo types? I remember seeing a similar take on a different board, but man, his reasoning was... something else. 😂 Anyway, back to the point! I've been obsessing over this lately. There's just something about those old technical manuals—those Military PDFs are like gold mines if you have the patience to sift through them. It’s not just about the guns or the planes; it’s the whole vibe of the era. It’s like stepping back in time. Anyway, I’m rambling. I totally am. But seriously, what do you guys think about the transition in tech during that period? Is it just me, or does it feel like everything moved way faster than we give it credit for? Let's talk! Look, if we all get on the same page and actually reach a consensus, I really think we can come in here and start pushing for some real changes!

Look, just to be crystal clear—this isn't some kind of hit piece on the current moderator! Seriously! Hollow Point! I mean, honestly, he’s been killing it so far! No issues at all, just smooth sailing right up until now. The thing is, that guy totally went MIA right after Christmas!

Man, I gotta say, those other two mods aren't even showing their faces in our Military PDF lately. Like, zero participation in the actual discussions! Total ghost town from them.

Mark Harris66 So, I was just digging through the archives and stumbled upon this one post on our subforum from all the way back in 2015: I honestly can't even deal right now! 😂 Seriously though, I was just scrolling through some old threads and man, some of these discussions go deep. Like, way deeper than they need to. Anyway, speaking of things going deep—did anyone catch that piece in The Morning News about the latest updates on military tech? It’s wild how fast everything changes. One minute you're looking at old gear, the next you're reading a whole Military PDF about stuff that sounds like pure sci-fi. It makes all those talks about History and historical themes feel so much more intense when you realize how quickly the "cutting edge" becomes yesterday's news. Oh! And I saw what Peter Reed70 was saying earlier about the ballistic specs. Honestly? He's onto something, even if he is being a bit extra about it. But hey, I love the energy! It's kind of like when you're prepping for Christmas and suddenly realize you forgot the most important thing, and then you spend three hours researching the "best" way to wrap a gift instead of actually wrapping it. Total rabbit hole. We've all been there, right? Anyway, just my random rambling for the day! Stay awesome! 🙌 ... Everything else belongs over in "History and historical themes"!

I can't believe I'm even seeing this right now! Seriously, my brain is actually melting. 🤯 Just scrolling through the threads and—BAM—there it is. Wait, hold on, let me grab my coffee first... okay, much better. ☕️ So, I was just reading what Peter Reed70 was saying earlier, and honestly? He’s kind of onto something, even if it sounds totally wild at first glance. But then you look at the actual data—you know, that stuff from the Military PDF we were all obsessing over last week—and everything starts to click. It’s like, oh, *now* I see it! Anyway, back to the point! I’m feeling super pumped about this discussion today. There’s just something about diving deep into History and historical themes that gets my adrenaline pumping, you know? It's like being a detective but without the boring paperwork. 🕵️‍♂️✨ What do you guys think though? Is it just me, or is everyone else seeing the same pattern here? Let's get a debate going! Don't be shy! 🙌 He’s hanging around the "History and historical themes" and "American War of Independence" sections, which is totally fine by me, but he isn't really a regular part of our Military PDF discussions lately... his last post was... 03.07.2015., 13:52

Honestly, we can totally justify asking why this subforum is basically 95%... Modern times, man! Everything is just moving so fast these days! We’re talking all things guns, aviation, the Navy, and all those crazy military conflicts popping up around the globe right now! It’s where you’ll find active-duty soldiers, actual Mig pilots, and all sorts of tactical experts hanging out and sharing what they know. This subforum is basically the ultimate source for exclusive military intel... I mean, seriously, sometimes we’re digging up stuff in our own Military PDF way before it even hits the headlines in The Morning News, The Evening News, or those fancy specialized military mags like Defender! It’s tucked away like some hidden sub-forum or something! Totally easy to miss if you aren't looking! History and historical themes! 🤔

We’re basically just looking for some more folks to join the forum crew! an_02 I'm ready! Send over the first post you want me to rework. I'll make sure it sounds like a real person—rambling, high-energy, and totally American—while following all those specific entity swaps you laid out. Standing by! I can't even begin to explain how much I love diving into this stuff! Honestly, just looking at the latest updates on Military History and Technology gets my heart racing. It’s like, how do you even wrap your head around how far we've come? One minute you're reading about old tech, and the next, you're deep in a rabbit hole of modern specs. It's wild! Anyway, I was scrolling through some threads earlier—shoutout to Mark Harris66 for that killer take the other day—and it got me thinking about the sheer scale of everything. Like, seriously! It’s massive. Sometimes I feel like I’m just rambling, but I can’t help it when the topic is this good! Just pure excitement over here! So, they actually went and did it—they made the subforum moderators! Finally! 🚀 Honestly, about time, right? It’s about time someone stepped up to help keep this place from turning into total chaos. I’m stoked! 🙌 Just feels like things are finally getting organized around here. Let's see how they handle it! Military History and Technology Man, if only they’d just pull the resonator and Mark Harris66 off that function! Then maybe—just maybe—we could actually see some third party step up in the future. Fingers crossed! active member Man, if we ever need our Military PDF guy to step up and become a mod, I am 100% down! Just saying!

An_02 is a total aviation geek, and pp5d6 knows everything there is to know about the Navy.
The guys over at Obdvojca are super active on this subforum—honestly, they're some of the best members around!

If we end up needing a third moderator, we could totally pull someone from the ground forces side of things—or honestly, just let the members decide however they want! We’ve been chatting about all this over in our dedicated thread, so feel free to jump in and check it out:
I can't believe I'm actually sitting here typing this out, but man, let’s talk about that recent deep dive into Military History and Technology! Seriously, my brain is buzzing. I was scrolling through some old threads and saw what Peter Reed70 was saying—and honestly? He's onto something, even if he's being a bit dramatic about it. But then you look at the actual data, the stuff you find in those specialized Military PDFs, and it’s a whole different story. It’s like looking at two different worlds! Anyway, I was thinking about how much things have changed since the era of the American War of Independence. Everything feels so high-tech now, right? Back then, it was all grit and basic gear, and now we're talking about advanced tech that sounds like it's straight out of a sci-fi flick. Speaking of tech, did anyone catch that piece in The Morning News about the new ballistic developments? They were mentioning Hollow Point rounds and how they're evolving. It’s wild. Wait, I just remembered something! I was chatting with ironranger67 the other day about how certain tactical setups just don't hold up under pressure. He’s always got such a sharp take on this stuff. We were debating whether the newer models are actually better or if they're just flashy marketing fluff. Actually, hold on—tangent alert! I almost forgot to mention that I finally picked up that new book on History and historical themes I've been eyeing. It's awesome. Total page-turner. But yeah, back to the point! Does anyone else feel like we spend way too much time arguing over specs and not enough time looking at the big picture? Like, sure, the performance of a specific round or a piece of hardware matters, but the context is everything. It's like when people argue about sports stats instead of watching the actual game. You know what I mean? Anyway, I'm just rambling now. Just wanted to throw that out there! What do you guys think? Is the hype around the new tech real, or are we just getting distracted by shiny objects? Let's get a debate going!

I mean, honestly, there’s zero reason why Hollowpoint shouldn't just stay on as a moderator until we actually figure out what went down with him. Who knows? Maybe he's dealing with some health stuff or something... either way, let's just let things ride for now!

I'm noticing that, like, this forum... Parents and kids, man... what a wild ride! It’s such a trip watching them grow up, isn't it? One minute you're teaching them how to tie their shoes, and the next they're basically running the house. It's pure chaos, but honestly? I love it. Such a rollercoaster! There are six moderators on this board, but honestly, half of them seem like they're just his buddies! Subforums Man, they’ve even got like 9(!) moderators on there... talk about overkill! So yeah, those numbers we're hunting for? They're looking pretty tiny compared to that.

Look, we really feel like what we're asking for is totally fair, so we’re just hoping everyone can step up and meet us halfway on this one! 🙂
northernsailor8 northernsailor8 Active Member
64 messages
joined Jun 2015
#2 ·
It seems you might have missed the update in the relevant VPT thread: as of today, I’ve stepped in as a new moderator here.

As for everyone else, I suppose we'll just have to see how things unfold in the near future regarding the current moderator status on the forum and whether there's any actual need to expand the team.
Peter Reed70 Peter Reed70 Active MemberOP
77 messages
joined Oct 2015
#3 ·
northernsailor8 said:It seems you might have missed the update in the relevant VPT thread: as of today, I’ve stepped in as a new moderator here.

As for everyone else, I suppose we'll just have to see how things unfold in the near future regarding the current moderator status on the forum and whether there's any actual need to expand the team.

Man, I only just caught your post, but honestly? I think the request should stand. I mean, nobody really voted for you either, just like nobody voted for Tim Orešković... 🤷

I’m not saying you’re bad at this or that you shouldn't be a mod, but right now? It just feels a little rigged, you know?

The folks who actually show up and drive the conversation here on the Military PDF—the ones who make this place their home base—should be the ones calling the shots.
The whole voting thing for mods was basically a move to stop everyone from jumping ship to some other forum.

If that happens, you’ll see The Morning News, The Evening News, and even Defender—hell, maybe even Aleksandar Vučić himself—scouring the web and digging through old threads just to scrape exclusive news from that other site...
ironranger67 ironranger67 Active Member
52 messages
joined Oct 2018
#4 ·
Great intro, Peter Reed70. 🙏🙏

You make some fair points, though I suspect most of the moderators you mentioned—aside from Hollow—weren't actually tasked with managing the "VPT and technology" Military PDF. There was likely a specific agreement behind the scenes regarding who handles what.

Honestly, I think it’s only right that we back our standout contributors, an_02 and pp5d6, and ask them to take over the editing for the PDF. If pp5d6 ends up being too busy or just isn't interested, I'd say electric rabbit would be a solid alternative choice as well. 🙂

I'm all for it. 👍
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
320 messages
joined Jan 2013
#5 ·
Peter Reed70 said:Just us forum folks, hanging out and talking shop every single day on the PDF! Military History and Technology Has anyone else noticed this? Seriously, it feels like things have been spiraling out of control on this subforum for like, a whole month now! Everything is just going totally off the rails!

Look, we all know that being proactive is way better than trying to fix a mess after it's already happened! So, we’ve officially kicked off a big discussion and a vote to pick some new moderators for our subforum. Let's get this moving! I can't believe I finally found this thread! Seriously, my eyes are practically popping out of my head from digging through all this stuff. So, I was just scrolling through some old archives—you know how it is, getting lost down the rabbit hole at 2 AM—and I stumbled upon this absolute gem regarding Military History and Technology. It’s wild how much things change, right? One minute you're looking at one thing, and the next, you're deep into the weeds of specific gear or old tactical specs. Wait, did Peter Reed70 actually say that about the ammo types? I remember seeing a similar take on a different board, but man, his reasoning was... something else. 😂 Anyway, back to the point! I've been obsessing over this lately. There's just something about those old technical manuals—those Military PDFs are like gold mines if you have the patience to sift through them. It’s not just about the guns or the planes; it’s the whole vibe of the era. It’s like stepping back in time. Anyway, I’m rambling. I totally am. But seriously, what do you guys think about the transition in tech during that period? Is it just me, or does it feel like everything moved way faster than we give it credit for? Let's talk! Look, if we all get on the same page and actually reach a consensus, I really think we can come in here and start pushing for some real changes!

Look, just to be crystal clear—this isn't some kind of hit piece on the current moderator! Seriously! Hollow Point! I mean, honestly, he’s been killing it so far! No issues at all, just smooth sailing right up until now. The thing is, that guy totally went MIA right after Christmas!

Man, I gotta say, those other two mods aren't even showing their faces in our Military PDF lately. Like, zero participation in the actual discussions! Total ghost town from them.

Mark Harris66 So, I was just digging through the archives and stumbled upon this one post on our subforum from all the way back in 2015: I honestly can't even deal right now! 😂 Seriously though, I was just scrolling through some old threads and man, some of these discussions go deep. Like, way deeper than they need to. Anyway, speaking of things going deep—did anyone catch that piece in The Morning News about the latest updates on military tech? It’s wild how fast everything changes. One minute you're looking at old gear, the next you're reading a whole Military PDF about stuff that sounds like pure sci-fi. It makes all those talks about History and historical themes feel so much more intense when you realize how quickly the "cutting edge" becomes yesterday's news. Oh! And I saw what Peter Reed70 was saying earlier about the ballistic specs. Honestly? He's onto something, even if he is being a bit extra about it. But hey, I love the energy! It's kind of like when you're prepping for Christmas and suddenly realize you forgot the most important thing, and then you spend three hours researching the "best" way to wrap a gift instead of actually wrapping it. Total rabbit hole. We've all been there, right? Anyway, just my random rambling for the day! Stay awesome! 🙌 ... Everything else belongs over in "History and historical themes"!

I can't believe I'm even seeing this right now! Seriously, my brain is actually melting. 🤯 Just scrolling through the threads and—BAM—there it is. Wait, hold on, let me grab my coffee first... okay, much better. ☕️ So, I was just reading what Peter Reed70 was saying earlier, and honestly? He’s kind of onto something, even if it sounds totally wild at first glance. But then you look at the actual data—you know, that stuff from the Military PDF we were all obsessing over last week—and everything starts to click. It’s like, oh, *now* I see it! Anyway, back to the point! I’m feeling super pumped about this discussion today. There’s just something about diving deep into History and historical themes that gets my adrenaline pumping, you know? It's like being a detective but without the boring paperwork. 🕵️‍♂️✨ What do you guys think though? Is it just me, or is everyone else seeing the same pattern here? Let's get a debate going! Don't be shy! 🙌 He’s hanging around the "History and historical themes" and "American War of Independence" sections, which is totally fine by me, but he isn't really a regular part of our Military PDF discussions lately... his last post was... 03.07.2015., 13:52

Honestly, we can totally justify asking why this subforum is basically 95%... Modern times, man! Everything is just moving so fast these days! We’re talking all things guns, aviation, the Navy, and all those crazy military conflicts popping up around the globe right now! It’s where you’ll find active-duty soldiers, actual Mig pilots, and all sorts of tactical experts hanging out and sharing what they know. This subforum is basically the ultimate source for exclusive military intel... I mean, seriously, sometimes we’re digging up stuff in our own Military PDF way before it even hits the headlines in The Morning News, The Evening News, or those fancy specialized military mags like Defender! It’s tucked away like some hidden sub-forum or something! Totally easy to miss if you aren't looking! History and historical themes! 🤔

We’re basically just looking for some more folks to join the forum crew! an_02 I'm ready! Send over the first post you want me to rework. I'll make sure it sounds like a real person—rambling, high-energy, and totally American—while following all those specific entity swaps you laid out. Standing by! I can't even begin to explain how much I love diving into this stuff! Honestly, just looking at the latest updates on Military History and Technology gets my heart racing. It’s like, how do you even wrap your head around how far we've come? One minute you're reading about old tech, and the next, you're deep in a rabbit hole of modern specs. It's wild! Anyway, I was scrolling through some threads earlier—shoutout to Mark Harris66 for that killer take the other day—and it got me thinking about the sheer scale of everything. Like, seriously! It’s massive. Sometimes I feel like I’m just rambling, but I can’t help it when the topic is this good! Just pure excitement over here! So, they actually went and did it—they made the subforum moderators! Finally! 🚀 Honestly, about time, right? It’s about time someone stepped up to help keep this place from turning into total chaos. I’m stoked! 🙌 Just feels like things are finally getting organized around here. Let's see how they handle it! Military History and Technology Man, if only they’d just pull the resonator and Mark Harris66 off that function! Then maybe—just maybe—we could actually see some third party step up in the future. Fingers crossed! active member Man, if we ever need our Military PDF guy to step up and become a mod, I am 100% down! Just saying!

An_02 is a total aviation geek, and pp5d6 knows everything there is to know about the Navy.
The guys over at Obdvojca are super active on this subforum—honestly, they're some of the best members around!

If we end up needing a third moderator, we could totally pull someone from the ground forces side of things—or honestly, just let the members decide however they want! We’ve been chatting about all this over in our dedicated thread, so feel free to jump in and check it out:
I can't believe I'm actually sitting here typing this out, but man, let’s talk about that recent deep dive into Military History and Technology! Seriously, my brain is buzzing. I was scrolling through some old threads and saw what Peter Reed70 was saying—and honestly? He's onto something, even if he's being a bit dramatic about it. But then you look at the actual data, the stuff you find in those specialized Military PDFs, and it’s a whole different story. It’s like looking at two different worlds! Anyway, I was thinking about how much things have changed since the era of the American War of Independence. Everything feels so high-tech now, right? Back then, it was all grit and basic gear, and now we're talking about advanced tech that sounds like it's straight out of a sci-fi flick. Speaking of tech, did anyone catch that piece in The Morning News about the new ballistic developments? They were mentioning Hollow Point rounds and how they're evolving. It’s wild. Wait, I just remembered something! I was chatting with ironranger67 the other day about how certain tactical setups just don't hold up under pressure. He’s always got such a sharp take on this stuff. We were debating whether the newer models are actually better or if they're just flashy marketing fluff. Actually, hold on—tangent alert! I almost forgot to mention that I finally picked up that new book on History and historical themes I've been eyeing. It's awesome. Total page-turner. But yeah, back to the point! Does anyone else feel like we spend way too much time arguing over specs and not enough time looking at the big picture? Like, sure, the performance of a specific round or a piece of hardware matters, but the context is everything. It's like when people argue about sports stats instead of watching the actual game. You know what I mean? Anyway, I'm just rambling now. Just wanted to throw that out there! What do you guys think? Is the hype around the new tech real, or are we just getting distracted by shiny objects? Let's get a debate going!

I mean, honestly, there’s zero reason why Hollowpoint shouldn't just stay on as a moderator until we actually figure out what went down with him. Who knows? Maybe he's dealing with some health stuff or something... either way, let's just let things ride for now!

I'm noticing that, like, this forum... Parents and kids, man... what a wild ride! It’s such a trip watching them grow up, isn't it? One minute you're teaching them how to tie their shoes, and the next they're basically running the house. It's pure chaos, but honestly? I love it. Such a rollercoaster! There are six moderators on this board, but honestly, half of them seem like they're just his buddies! Subforums Man, they’ve even got like 9(!) moderators on there... talk about overkill! So yeah, those numbers we're hunting for? They're looking pretty tiny compared to that.

Look, we really feel like what we're asking for is totally fair, so we’re just hoping everyone can step up and meet us halfway on this one! 🙂

I've noticed that a forum like Parenting & Kids has 6 moderators, and some of its sub-forums even have up to 9(!) moderators... compared to that, the numbers we're asking for are quite modest.

By default, the moderators of a main forum also moderate all its sub-forums.
You can't remove someone from a sub-forum if they were appointed at the root level. However, on such large forums, moderators often make internal arrangements about who handles what. Having 9 people listed doesn't mean all 9 are active in that specific sub-forum.

Peter Reed70 said:Man, I only just caught your post, but honestly? I think the request should stand. I mean, nobody really voted for you either, just like nobody voted for Tim Orešković... 🤷

I’m not saying you’re bad at this or that you shouldn't be a mod, but right now? It just feels a little rigged, you know?

The folks who actually show up and drive the conversation here on the Military PDF—the ones who make this place their home base—should be the ones calling the shots.
The whole voting thing for mods was basically a move to stop everyone from jumping ship to some other forum.

If that happens, you’ll see The Morning News, The Evening News, and even Defender—hell, maybe even Aleksandar Vučić himself—scouring the web and digging through old threads just to scrape exclusive news from that other site...

Moderators aren't chosen through a forum vote. You can certainly submit a suggestion, and the super-mod or admin will review candidates, but ultimately, even the admin doesn't decide—it's up to the owner.

Also, users don't get to decide if there's sufficient cause to remove someone from moderation. That's handled privately between the admin and the moderators. Regardless, the forum shouldn't be left unsupervised, and that's being sorted out this week, likely by the end of today. From there, it's up to the admin to monitor the situation.
Steven Perez6 Steven Perez6 Member
12 messages
joined Oct 2017
#6 ·
Michelle Evans said:
I've noticed that a forum like Parenting & Kids has 6 moderators, and some of its sub-forums even have up to 9(!) moderators... compared to that, the numbers we're asking for are quite modest.

By default, the moderators of a main forum also moderate all its sub-forums.
You can't remove someone from a sub-forum if they were appointed at the root level. However, on such large forums, moderators often make internal arrangements about who handles what. Having 9 people listed doesn't mean all 9 are active in that specific sub-forum.

Moderators aren't chosen through a forum vote. You can certainly submit a suggestion, and the super-mod or admin will review candidates, but ultimately, even the admin doesn't decide—it's up to the owner.

Also, users don't get to decide if there's sufficient cause to remove someone from moderation. That's handled privately between the admin and the moderators. Regardless, the forum shouldn't be left unsupervised, and that's being sorted out this week, likely by the end of today. From there, it's up to the admin to monitor the situation.

There hasn't been any actual moderation on this forum for weeks—honestly, I doubt even one moderator has been reading the threads, because if they had, they surely would have stepped in by now. That's why Peter Reed70 brought this idea forward, and I think most of the subforums are actually on board with it. As for the specific rules or how realistic this all is... well, I don't know, but I'm glad northernsailor8 spoke up and is going to moderate the subforum.
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
320 messages
joined Jan 2013
#7 ·
We always review all five suggestions from the community; we certainly don't just ignore them. I'm simply clarifying how our moderator selection process works...
It wouldn't be ideal to have only one moderator managing the PDF. However, Nice will continue to handle this matter...
driftingheron23 driftingheron23 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Apr 2013
#8 ·
I’m moving this thread over from that long-winded discussion elsewhere, assuming that’s where the debate regarding moderation for "Military History and Technology" and "History and historical themes" is destined to continue.

Hawk75 As said:Not exactly a shocker, is it? 😵

I'm all for it. AirBag

With all due respect to AirBag and his staggering depth of knowledge, experience, and sheer analytical thoroughness—if that’s even a word you can use—I have to say... 🕺I honestly don't think he’d make a very good moderator. Even though he makes these grand "efforts" to prove otherwise, he still comes across as incredibly biased at times. On top of that, he has this habit of talking down to people quite frequently without any real reason—which, granted, doesn't necessarily mean he'd act that way if he actually held a position of authority, but one can only assume.
To be perfectly honest, I suspect he lacks that necessary touch of democratic spirit required to be a truly effective moderator—not that we could prevent any particular lack of transparency from occurring, given that several of our current moderators suffer from the exact same issue, but there isn't much we can do about it at this stage.
I would much rather see "forumaris vulgaris" remain an active and highly valued member of this community, just as they have been up until now.

northernsailor8 said:Good day, everyone. I’m northernsailor8, and I'll be stepping in as your new moderator. 🎉

Moving forward, I’d like to ask everyone—and I am looking particularly at our more seasoned veterans here—to please exercise a bit of restraint when faced with provocations. Let’s try not to let things spiral into petty personal attacks. While I certainly respect different communication styles and the kind of unfiltered, wide-open debate this Military PDF has become notorious for—we all know the reputation of this particular document, don't we?—I still believe these should be my baseline expectations for our discussions.

I can't exactly promise that I'll be able to keep every thread perfectly categorized by topic. As many of you have likely noticed, we’ve been dealing with some rather persistent server issues lately, and there's always that nagging risk of losing entire discussions to the digital void. That being said, I'll make sure to give you a heads-up whenever things start veering too far into off-topic territory.

I sincerely hope we can steer clear of any unnecessary bickering and make a genuine effort to return to the level of discourse we enjoyed just a week or two ago, before certain topics triggered these rather tiresome personal vendettas. It actually reminded me that I should probably head off and perform some light preliminary housekeeping. ☕


With all due respect to you, northernsailor8, and the genuine value you’ve brought to this community, I can't help but feel it’s somewhat unfair—if not outright unjust—to disregard the collective perspective of our members when it comes to selecting new moderators. It seems a bit shortsighted to ignore the input of the broader group, both those who post daily and those who simply observe, when deciding who should lead us.

I’m honestly not entirely sure what kind of backroom maneuvering led to your appointment as a moderator, but I have to say it again: ignoring the collective sentiment and the actual will of this forum's community is simply unfair.

In that regard, I find myself once again throwing my support behind an_02 and pp5d6. Honestly, if they were looking to appoint a moderator, they really ought to consider picking one of those two.
Personally, though perhaps more by gut instinct than by any rigorous logical deduction, I think I would actually prefer an_02 to be the choice, if only to grant pp5d6 a little more breathing room to go out and secure some more "insider info." 🤷

I honestly think the most decent way to handle this would be to launch a poll—maybe run it for about seven days?—to elegantly clear up the confusion. That way, we could officially bring northernsailor8 on board as another moderator, allowing them to pair up and complement each other perfectly. 😁

Up until about a week or two ago, things were actually going relatively smoothly around here. Then "dangerz0ne" showed up—along with a few of his cohorts—and everything went sideways. Whether he was assigned this role or just decided to take it upon himself to ruin things (I honestly can't decide which is worse), I’m holding him personally responsible for the current state of this forum. Ever since he started spamming and trolling every single thread in sight, the quality of discussion has plummeted by at least two notches.
Of course, we have to admit that a certain degree of shared responsibility lies with the moderators—or rather, their lack of action—regarding these specific threads.

I don't have anything against the man personally, but I have to admit, this is the first time someone has actually managed to strip away my enthusiasm for visiting this forum. It’s become quite a chore.

I’ll say this once more to everyone on the board: if you encounter one of those self-important types—the kind who clearly believes they are the smartest person in the room, yet proceeds to spout nothing but mindless nonsense and endless, empty rants—the best course of action is simply to ignore them. Until a moderator steps in to handle things according to protocol, just let them shout into the void. Honestly, there is no harsher punishment for a forum troll than being met with absolute silence.

@northernsailor8
So, to wrap this all up—is there any chance we could actually get organized, put together a proper poll, and somehow convince you to let us bring another high-quality moderator on board?

If I were to put together a list, just off the top of my head, it would look something like this:
an_02
2. pp5d6
3. Grga-OS
4. AirBag
5. 9aplus
I’m almost certainly certain I've overlooked something important and skipped right over it, so I'll just leave this space open for Miscellaneous.

Edit:
It appears that the administrator—or whoever it is that Michelle Evans happens to be—has already weighed in on the other thread in the meantime.
Regardless, I’m sticking to my guns on this one, and I’d kindly ask the moderators, supermoderators, administrators, and the rest of the staff to please... Of course, the forum owner. They should probably take the consensus of this subforum into account before making any moves—maybe run a poll to decide on additional moderators. We could look at bringing on An_02, pp5d6 (though I see he’s already offered his thanks), Grga-OS, AirBag, 9aplus, or whoever else we might collectively agree upon.
We all share a common interest in elevating the quality of this forum, and while I certainly respect private property rights and the owner's prerogative, I would humbly ask that you reconsider the request above. It feels like a small step toward preserving the very spirit of what we’re trying to build here.


And a special little addendum, specifically intended for the executive branch of this forum: Set a precedent for once—act like adults, find some backbone, admit you were wrong, reach out to Marasovac, and invite him back to the forum.
I’m fully aware that doing this would be considered against the rules, and frankly, most would say it’s beneath the dignity of this community. However, users like him are such a rare breed that losing someone of his caliber would be a genuine blow to the soul of this forum.
It seems to me that regardless of how much the vast majority of you—including the moderators, super-moderators, administrators, and whatever other titles exist in this hierarchy—might have bristled at Marasovac's particular views, one cannot deny the man was easily one of the most high-quality contributors I’ve had the pleasure of reading on this forum; every single assertion or opinion he voiced was meticulously argued and, more often than not, backed up by a reliable link.
I feel somewhat ridiculous playing the role of his defense attorney here, yet I find it equally absurd that we might lose one of the top three most insightful contributors this forum has ever seen, all because someone couldn't swallow their pride or handle a bruised ego.
William Bennett53 William Bennett53 Regular
491 messages
joined Sep 2016
#9 ·
Marasovac recently took a trip over to the KSB site. If you head over there, everything will become perfectly clear to you.

As for everything else, I think the initiative by the Military PDF forum members to propose their own moderators is quite commendable. However, as previously noted, we don't actually have a public election process on this forum; the scope of such initiatives is limited to merely suggesting candidates to the owner, the admin, and the current moderation team.
Mark Harris66 Mark Harris66 Active Member
158 messages
joined Oct 2016
#10 ·
I was originally just supposed to be a backup moderator for the main root section—not for Military History and Technology or the American War of Independence. I really just stepped in with one post to help out when nobody was around to handle reports. Michelle Evans explained that once you're added as a moderator for the root, your name automatically gets applied to all the subforums too
I actually agree with Peter Reed70’s suggestion that I shouldn't be moderating Military History and Technology—I'm just not an expert in those areas (well, maybe a little bit regarding World War I, but that's not exactly the most exciting topic 😢)—but Michelle Evans already cleared up why things turned out this way.

We'll do our best to get this sorted out so everyone posting in those sections is happy.
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
320 messages
joined Jan 2013
#11 ·
The thread is titled VPiT subforum moderation, focusing on proposing new moderators for this section. Honestly, shouldn't one of us handling the VPiT subforum moderation be the one explaining what’s unnecessary in your post?

EDIT: nixolino, my colleagues tell me everything was already cleared up in the message, yet you keep posting the exact same thing without any changes. Because of that, I'm stripping your 30-point card and replacing it with a 100-point penalty for repeated rule violations, and I'm deleting the post.

You must log in or register to reply here.

Log in Register

🔗 Similar threads