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Hashtag: Failed Artists

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cosmichawk5 cosmichawk5 Newcomer
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#21 ·
granitecrane said:It's because the music industry and all those managers just churn out instant superstars who have to make ultra-commercial tracks just so the suits can get filthy rich off them. These "stars" only last as long as whatever musical trend they're riding. It's sad, but it's the truth. That’s why there’s been so much garbage music over the last decade or so. It’s all about the money! There's zero love for the art. The people actually making something real don't even have the luck to get an album released by a label today, let alone get airplay on the radio or MTV. And even IF they did release something, nobody would know who they are. Nowadays, you need a massive amount of luck just to succeed with actual quality. (I get that for some, getting into the industry means breaking onto MTV and stuff... but honestly, the market is already totally saturated with all these manufactured products...)
The other thing is, if you're already an established name from back in the day, labels will keep releasing your stuff, but if you're the new kid on the block, you're looking at a pretty bleak future that basically doesn't exist.

I'm with you on everything except the part about good bands not getting on MTV or lacking the cash to get signed... sorry, but I don't consider any band currently on MTV to be actually good. It's all artificial music designed for kids and the masses to consume. I know plenty of killer bands that never got played on MTV or any other network, yet they still put out albums today... so... it's not a deciding factor. You just need to be in the right place at the right time for someone to notice you, or just stay true to yourself and do your own thing... everything else falls into place eventually... heh... but yeah—you definitely need luck. And like you said... the future is grim for those who used to be famous, because their time has passed. They live on in fans' memories, and most of them, in my opinion, crawl back once they run out of money... but the real bands who make music out of pure love? They'll know when their time has passed and when to exit the stage with dignity. Respect to them...
Ethan Perez28 Ethan Perez28 Active Member
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#22 ·
My band actually made it onto MTV 🙈 😬 and look, we aren't out here churning out manufactured pop hits just to chase trends or please some mindless crowd; we do this because we genuinely love the music 😍 🙂

😛
cosmichawk5 cosmichawk5 Newcomer
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#23 ·
Look, I’m not saying you guys don't play music out of pure love... you totally misread me, haha... It's just about MTV... those guys turn music into mass-produced products. I never said the people in those videos don't love what they do or that it isn't their life's passion—hell no. It's just that MTV makes insane amounts of money off them through all that promotion, and when teenagers fall for it, it starts causing issues with Psyche, various views, and all that stuff. But hey, I don't want to get into all that right now 🙂 .. hope you understand me...
Ethan Perez28 Ethan Perez28 Active Member
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#24 ·
cosmichawk5 said:it’s just that MTV makes a killing off them through all that promotion, and since teenagers eat that stuff up, you end up with all these issues regarding the Psyche and various views and whatnot...

😢
Drew Adams58 Drew Adams58 Regular
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#25 ·
🙂
Ethan Perez28 said:😢

😬

Someone brought up Sandi Thom—she belongs on a bonfire.
Ethan Perez28 Ethan Perez28 Active Member
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#26 ·
What the hell are you laughing at? I’m out here actually feeling for these misguided kids, while I’m stuck dealing with the fact that MTV is sitting on a mountain of cash and I’ve got nothing... not to mention all the drama in Various views, my own Psyche, and everything else falling apart.

🙂
cosmichawk5 cosmichawk5 Newcomer
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#27 ·
Guess someone missed my point again... oh well, it is what it is 🙂
Drew Adams58 Drew Adams58 Regular
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#28 ·
Ethan Perez28 said:Why should I laugh? I actually empathize with those lost teenagers. It hurts seeing how much money MTV has while I have nothing... plus all the issues within Various views, Psyche, and everything else.

🙂

Because everyone knows you're only playing for the paycheck, which is why your music sounds so sugary sweet.😛
Kevin Chavez3 Kevin Chavez3 Veteran
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#29 ·
And then there's this starving artist playing nothing but American reggae just to get a reaction from the crowd 🙂
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Drew Adams58 Drew Adams58 Regular
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#30 ·
Kevin Chavez3 Megan Torres said:And what about this starving artist playing that North American reggae? It seems like he’s performing exclusively for his wife. 🙂

That leans more toward progressive rock, don't you think? 😬
Joshua Williams82 Joshua Williams82 Member
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#31 ·
Why does everything commercial that gets played on MTV have to be absolute garbage?!😕

It’s almost as if the only thing worth listening to is some niche, underground alternative music....🙄

And regarding Sandi Thom, I mentioned her before as someone with a genuinely original approach—she actually managed to break through to the public by recording at home and hosting concerts online (even if her music isn't really my cup of tea). Sure, her mentor back in school was Paul McCartney, but the girl made it happen. From here on out, it's entirely up to her.
Drew Adams58 Drew Adams58 Regular
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#32 ·
Someone needs to throw this one on the bonfire, especially since they’re grouping hippies and punks together in the same breath.
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Joshua Williams82 Joshua Williams82 Member
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#33 ·
Drew Adams58 said:She should be burned at the stake for grouping hippies and punks together like that. P

Oof, we're being pretty harsh here, aren't we?

She used to be all hippie, and now she's singing about how she would've been a punk, but I mean, who actually takes any of this seriously???😬

Maybe she’s just mocking both sides...
Drew Adams58 Drew Adams58 Regular
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#34 ·
There’s no mocking the punk scene here, nor is there any room for those who just daydream about being some kind of punk-meets-hippie hybrid. Burn the hippies at the stake.
Joshua Williams82 Joshua Williams82 Member
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#35 ·
Jesus... I guess you're just one of those types who hates everything around them, especially anyone who dares to be different from you, right?!🙂
Ethan Perez28 Ethan Perez28 Active Member
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#36 ·
Nah, he’s just being an absolute idiot today 🙂
Drew Adams58 Drew Adams58 Regular
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#37 ·
The answer to both claims is that
Joshua Williams82 Joshua Williams82 Member
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#38 ·
Drew Adams58 said:The answer to both points is basically


People who admit it... well, you know how it goes.
But seriously, tell us, what kind of songs are actually in your karaoke rotation? 🙂
Drew Adams58 Drew Adams58 Regular
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#39 ·
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analogharbor442 analogharbor442 Member
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#40 ·
Ugh, that song where she sings about wishing she was a punk rocker? Honestly, it’s hands down the most atrocious track ever written. Eww, just gross. It’s so sickeningly sweet and tries way too hard to be "modern"—it’s a total assault on the senses. Just... AAAH!
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