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California health officials warn: chemicals in chips could cause cancer

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Sean Rodriguez59 Sean Rodriguez59 MemberOP
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#1 ·
Chemicals in potato chips might be linked to cancer
Public health officials here in California have started looking closely at chip manufacturers because several store brands aren't clearly labeling a chemical that can trigger cancer. It's called acrylamide—an industrial chemical usually found in things like plastics, pesticides, and sewage treatment, but it can also show up when foods like chips are cooked at high temperatures. According to the World Health Organization, acrylamide could potentially account for a third of all diet-related cancers. Even though this chemical is on California's list of carcinogens, some chip makers haven't included it on their packaging despite what the rules require: specifically brands like Lay's, Pringles, Kettle Chips, and Cape Cod chips.

http://www.news10.net/storyfull.asp?id=11508
James Newman4 James Newman4 Member
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#2 ·
So, basically, food products are chemically engineered just to trick people into eating way more than they actually need.
Like, if you were just eating a ton of bananas or apples or whatever fresh, unprocessed stuff, your body—using your taste buds—would eventually signal you to switch things up and try a different kind of food.
But why doesn't that happen when you're hitting up chocolate bars, baked chips, or that fast food junk they whip up at McDonald's...? I mean, why is it that the more you eat that stuff, the more you just crave it?

The whole thing is that chemical processing drives you to overeat, which leads to massive overconsumption, and honestly, it’s all just a way for companies to boost their profits by exploiting consumers.

This entire industry keeps churning out basically the same types of products (just in different packaging), and this lack of actual variety in what we eat causes terrible nutrition, which then fuels obesity and all sorts of diseases.

Even cigarette manufacturers have used chemical tweaks on tobacco to make it even more addictive.
Back in 2001, Philip Morris bought up some of the biggest names in kid-friendly snacks (including brands like Ritz and Philadelphia). That move turned Philip Morris into the second largest food company in the world, right behind Nestlé.

And the fallout from all this is pretty wild: in the USA, about 61% of the population (around 184 million people), and in Europe, about 50% (roughly 175 million people), are overweight, while 27% (that's 77 million people!) are clinically obese.

According to data from the World Health Organization, out of every 10 doctor visits, 7 of them are related to illnesses caused by poor diet!
Amanda Lee42 Amanda Lee42 Member
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#3 ·
Well, there is actually a certain amount of logic to it—chips are essentially just potatoes cooked at extremely high temperatures, after all.
I recall reading somewhere that even baked potatoes might not be the healthiest option because they can develop certain carcinogenic compounds during the process,
so, following that bit of information, I immediately decided to scale back my potato intake—limiting baked potatoes strictly to birthday parties where they serve as one of the side dishes.
James Newman4 James Newman4 Member
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#4 ·
Amanda Lee42 said:I mean, I guess there’s actually some logic to it if you think about it, since chips are basically just potatoes being fried at really high temperatures anyway.
I think I read somewhere that baked potatoes aren't actually that great for you, like they develop some kind of carcinogenic compounds or whatever during the cooking process, I guess.
So, after all that, I guess I just immediately cut back on my fried potato intake, like, only letting myself have them as a side dish during birthday parties or something.

I mean, at the end of the day, we’re really just talking about all those different additives—you know, the nasty stuff—that they pack into everything just to crank up the flavor and basically make it impossible not to get hooked. It’s kind of wild how much they rely on that junk to trigger an addiction, I guess. 😢
Peter Taylor63 Peter Taylor63 Member
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#5 ·
Amanda Lee42 said:I mean, it kind of makes sense. Chips are made from potatoes at really high heat.
I read somewhere that baked potatoes aren't even that healthy because they can develop certain carcinogens,
so I basically cut back on my potato intake, maybe just having them as a side dish during birthday parties.

I guess it isn't just about the potatoes, though. It’s more about anything fried or burnt... like those black charred bits.
Amanda Lee42 Amanda Lee42 Member
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#6 ·
I was reading something recently,
regarding this phenomenon involving acrylamide—it shows up in just about any food that’s been heavily fried or toasted, especially when you're looking at potatoes and grains.
Certain doses of the stuff can actually be toxic to the nervous systems of both animals and humans.

So far, it hasn't been detected in foods prepared at temperatures below 120 degrees, nor in boiled dishes.

The general rule of thumb? Don't overcook your food, and try to avoid blasting it at maximum heat.
Apparently, you might be exposed to this compound through smoking cigarettes as well.
Now, polyacrylamide is actually used as a cleaning agent during water filtration processes, but in that context, the acrylamide levels are extremely minimal.
http://www.who.int/foodsafety/public...en/index3.html

Basically, it forms when the amino acid
"asparagine" reacts with certain sugars, like glucose—for instance, potatoes contain starch (I don't recall the exact technical distinction between the two) which, when subjected to high cooking temperatures, triggers the reaction.
James Newman4 James Newman4 Member
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#7 ·
here is a slightly more detailed version of that news story:

"Public health lawyers over in California are sounding the alarm, basically saying all chip manufacturers should be forced to put a massive warning label on their packaging if their products contain chemicals that trigger tumors.

The culprit here is acrylamide, which is this substance you find in cookies, certain types of rusks, coffee, and obviously chips and french fries. It’s been around forever in stuff like plastics, dyes, and adhesives, but it was only recently realized that it's actually baked right into a ton of everyday foods.

The World Health Organization claims that acrylamide is responsible for about a third of all tumors linked to poor diet. Even back in animal studies, they found it causes thyroid, male reproductive, and breast tumors in rats. Now that testing on various popular snacks—like those famous Pringles—shows it's everywhere, I guess it might be time to maybe stop eating this stuff altogether.

They ran tests on several brands: Lay's Baked!, Lay's Stax BBQ, Lay's KC Masterpiece, Lay's Natural country Barbecue, Lay's light KC Barbecue Masterpiece, Pringles snack Stacks (pizza flavor), Pringles sweet Mesquite BBQ, Kettle Chips Lightly Salted, Kettle Chips Honey Dijon, Cape Cod Robust Russet, and Cape Cod Classic Chips. And yeah, every single one of them had that dangerous chemical in it.

Even with the risks, food companies are pushing back, asking Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger not to slap that '65' label on potato products, which would basically flag the food as carcinogenic. The governor's office should be making their final call in a few days."
dustycanyon6 dustycanyon6 Active Member
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#8 ·
Honestly, I find all of this a little ridiculous... I don't think the main reason they're labeling chips and fries is because of some cancer risk. It feels more like a way to try and curb consumption since we're talking about some of the absolute worst food out there. If they're going to slap warnings on chips, then they really ought to be putting them on every single McDonald's sign and everywhere else you can grab fast food... It’s funny how chips are suddenly the big villain now—it’s like nobody has thought to put warning labels on candy yet, telling people it makes you gain weight, or that sugar is addictive, or causes all sorts of health issues... Apparently, for Americans, the chip industry isn't quite as "exciting" (read: profitable) as the massive industry behind sweets, chocolate, and those other vices.
James Newman4 James Newman4 Member
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#9 ·
dustycanyon6 said:I mean, honestly, I find this whole thing kind of hilarious. I guess my take is that the main reason they’re slapping warning labels on chips and fries isn't actually because there's some massive cancer risk, but more about trying to curb how much people eat since, let's face it, it's basically bottom-tier food. Like, if we're going to label chips like that, then you really ought to be putting warnings on every single McDonald's restaurant and everywhere else you can grab junk food. It feels like suddenly chips are the ultimate villain, but it's weird that nobody has thought to put warnings on sweets yet—you know, telling people they'll gain weight, or that sugar is super addictive and causes all sorts of health issues and stuff. I suppose for Americans, the chip industry just isn't quite as "exciting" (if you want to say profitable, I mean it doesn't bring in nearly as much cash) as the massive candy and chocolate industries are.

I mean, I don't know, I'm kind of feeling like you might not actually have the full story here, if you know what I mean. You might be a little out of the loop on this one, I guess.

So, I guess lawsuits are just flying left and right across the USA lately, targeting basically anything that might contribute to obesity, and honestly, they’re even coming after the big players—like, specifically aiming at McDonald's, which is pretty wild if you think about it.

I mean, I guess Americans were really the first ones to actually feel the burn and deal with the fallout firsthand, you know? It’s like we were the guinea pigs in this whole situation, and honestly, we're the ones paying the price now.
Back in 2002, I feel like a massive chunk of Americans started getting really worked up about their weight, you know? It was one of those times where everyone seemed to be spiraling over body image and stuff.
And they did exactly what they do best: they sued those bastards. 😁
So, I guess people are out here actually blaming fast food chains for being the reason they’re overweight, which is kind of wild if you think about it, I mean, maybe it's a thing, but honestly? It feels like everyone just wants someone else to point a finger at so they don't have to deal with their own choices, you know? Like, sure, McDonald's makes stuff that's obviously not a salad, but at the end of the day, it's kind of on the individual, I guess, though I suppose the marketing is pretty aggressive and all... anyway, it's just this whole massive blame game happening where everyone's looking at the big corporations instead of just looking in the mirror, but who am I to say, right?

So, I was reading about this case out in New York where the court actually sent two teenage girls in for some kind of medical evaluation, and man, it’s just wild how things have shifted lately. One girl was only 14, standing about 5 feet tall but weighing around 235 pounds, and the other one was 19, maybe 5'5", but she was pushing like 297 pounds. It’s one of those things that used to feel like an extreme outlier or just something you'd see in a movie, but now? It feels like this heavy, unavoidable reality we're all just living through. And honestly, people are already starting to point fingers at McDonald's, filing lawsuits because they're convinced the stuff they're pumping out is basically designed to do this to kids. It's getting pretty intense, I guess.
Everything is just loaded with calories, I guess, which is why everyone’s struggling so much with their weight lately. It's like, one out of every four Americans hits up a fast food joint every single day, which is wild when you think about it. And honestly, this isn't even just an American thing; it's happening all over the world, everywhere really. I mean, look at McDonald's—they've got locations in something like 100 different countries across six continents, feeding roughly 46 million people every single day. That's actually insane because that's more people than the entire population of Spain.
So, I was looking at some stats earlier and it turns out McDonald's basically owns like 43% of the fast food market here in the States. It’s kind of wild when you actually think about it, because they really are everywhere, isn't it? Like, you can't escape them. They're at every local farmers market, popping up at airports, hanging out at vacation spots, even right there at the gas stations... it feels like they've got a footprint on every single corner of the country.
...you know, like those train stations, the big shopping malls, or even those local carnivals and amusement parks, Wait, you mean even in hospitals?! I guess that’s just how things go now, isn't it? It feels like there's nowhere left to escape it, maybe even in places where you'd actually expect some level of sanity or standard, but I suppose everything is changing. Yeah, totally true! It’s all happening in the hospitals. I mean, if you get stuck in one of those places, you're basically living around the corner from it anyway, I guess. 😉
So, the McDonald's lawyers basically tossed the whole lawsuit aside, calling it completely baseless, which I guess is just how they roll. They’re out here claiming that their food is like, globally famous—which, yeah, obviously—but they also had the nerve to argue that those girls in the study weren't actually overweight or dealing with any health issues caused by what they were eating. Then, get this, the verdict comes down and they basically told everyone that if people choose to eat there for every single meal, day in and day out, and if the food really is that bad for them, then well, that's on them. Like, it's your own responsibility at that point, I suppose.

If these massive fast food corporations aren't going to step up and take any responsibility for the obesity epidemic, then I guess we’re left wondering who actually deserves the blame for this whole mess, right? Like, does fast food really cause that much damage, or is it something else entirely? I mean, just imagine if someone actually sat down and ate nothing but McDonald's for thirty days straight... would they just end up blowing up, or would it be legitimately dangerous for them? Honestly, I don't know, maybe it's more complicated than people think, but you can find the answer in the movie Super Size Me. So, I was thinking about that documentary *Super Size Me* again, and man, it really sticks with you, doesn't it? It’s one of those movies that just kind of sits in the back of your head, making you second-guess everything when you're standing in line at McDonald's. I guess it's easy to forget how much things have changed since then, but looking back, it’s pretty wild how much it laid out the whole mess with fast food culture here in the States. It makes you wonder if we ever actually learned anything, or if we're all just stuck in the same loop, I don't know. Maybe I'm just being cynical, but there's definitely something heavy about it. .. 😎 😁

So, I guess the new lawsuits are already moving through the system... things are getting messy again, I suppose. 🙂

So, I was reading about this thing happening over in Italy, and it’s kind of wild how they’re handling things. They actually set up this whole dedicated wellness ministry, and they’ve basically declared war on the chemical industry and started going after smokers hard. It’s all coming from the fact that they realized they were blowing through something like $23 million a year on healthcare, and they finally had that "aha!" moment where they figured out it’s way cheaper and just plain easier to invest in prevention rather than constantly paying for the fallout later on. I mean, it makes sense, right? Like, why pay for the damage if you can stop it before it starts? To get the word out, their government printed millions of these brochures that basically teach people how to eat better and make smarter food choices to dodge a bunch of diseases, and they’ve been handing them out all across the country. It's a pretty smart move, I guess, if you think about it. 👍

With this whole wellness movement blowing up, I feel like a lot of governments are starting to see things the same way, and it’s probably just a matter of time before they start slapping big, bold "dangerously unhealthy" warnings on all that junk—you know, stuff like McDonald's or bags of chips and whatever else... kind of like how they do with cigarette packs nowadays 🙂

In the States, there was even talk about passing laws to ban fast food commercials from airing on TV before 10 PM when kids are still wide awake... and I think they have something similar going on over in France too 🙂

There’s actually even a World Day Against McDonald's out there, though I guess it was honestly kind of stupid how the protests around here focused more on protecting miserable cows rather than actually looking out for people 😕 😠 🙂

I mean, a day is definitely coming where everyone is going to be talking openly about how much sugar absolutely wrecks your health, I can see it happening, it's just... I don't know, the timing feels a bit fuzzy to me right now 😉 😁
dustycanyon6 dustycanyon6 Active Member
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#10 ·
James Newman4 said:If these fast food giants refuse to take any responsibility for the obesity epidemic, then who exactly are we pointing the finger at? Is fast food really the massive culprit behind all this... or is there more to the story? I mean, just imagine if someone actually sat down and ate nothing but McDonald's for thirty days straight. Would they end up gaining a ton of weight? Would it actually be dangerous for them? ... You'll find the answer in the movie. Super Size Me... .. 😎 😁

A little off-topic here, but that movie... honestly, it’s just bad. It’s pretty primitive, really. You can't take much away from it, other than the obvious stuff that goes without saying... it feels like it was made specifically for mindless Americans who will just swallow whatever they're fed. Was it supposed to win an Oscar? Not in a million years. I mean, the guy was always ordering Super Size meals—if he had just eaten those massive portions of food he normally eats anyway, he would've gained weight, sure, but it wouldn't have been quite so extreme. His blood work wouldn't have been that trashed... though he still would've felt the effects. And besides, it wasn't even just about the food. He was slamming Coca-Cola all day, which is basically pure sugar. Between the sugar, the caffeine, and the phosphoric acid in Coca-Cola... he didn't even need to step foot in a McDonald's to ruin his health. That stuff is everywhere...
James Newman4 James Newman4 Member
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#11 ·
MaxB said:Going a bit off-topic here, but honestly, that movie is just trash—it’s super primitive and you can't really take much from it besides stuff that's just common sense. It was basically made for mindless Americans who will swallow whatever they're fed. Like, should it have even been up for an Oscar? Not in a million years.

I don't know if you even actually watched the thing, but he was only eating three meals a day (breakfast, lunch, dinner—nothing skipped) and there wasn't any "binging" like you're implying... 🙂

It feels like you totally missed the point of the whole movie.. 😕

It doesn't matter if he was eating "super-sized" portions or smaller ones, and it doesn't matter whether someone sees the effects of bad diet in a single month or over ten years; the point is simply that we don't have enough time to wait ten years for results (ten years? 😕 🙂 ), and plenty of people today are basically just the visible consequences of 10-20 years of terrible eating habits.. 😢

If you manage to eat one McDonald's Big Mac once a week or once a month, or grab a Coke once a week or once a month, then hey, good for you, maybe you've got some willpower, but this movie was made for the people who have turned that stuff into a habit, the ones eating that junk EVERY SINGLE DAY, just so they can see what happens to them REALLY FAST.. 😢

I probably know more about nutrition than some "primitive American," and I don't feel primitive at all for being blown away by the film—blown away in the sense that it gave a direct answer to the question, "Is this food actually toxic to the body?" ... 🤔

The weirdest part of the whole thing is that even the doctors, the nutritionists, and the entire medical team following this "guinea pig" couldn't believe it when they saw the end results, which pretty much says a lot about how much medical science actually knows when it comes to how bad food affects your health.. 👎

"Besides, it wasn't just the food—he was drinking Coca-Cola sodas which are loaded with sugar..."

And you think that food doesn't have sugar in it? .. 😕 😁

ps: I saw this insane documentary on Discovery Channel one day about industrial food and how they raise livestock for meat (stuffing them full of growth hormones and antibiotics), and honestly, anyone who felt indifferent watching that probably isn't worth feeling sorry for.. 🙂 🙂 🙂

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