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#22 ·
Hannah Rogers93 said:If you're eating eggs, dairy, and maybe some fish once in a while, you don't actually need meat.
Yeah, clearly not... not when I'm dealing with all these issues myself.
#24 ·
mistybear4 said:The issue is actually your knee—and honestly, eating a mountain of steak every day isn't going to fix that. You should probably grab a second opinion from a different doctor to see what can actually be done or if there's any rehab you can do for that knee.
But look... the whole idea is that if I want to build up my quad muscle, I need to eat enough protein—like meat
or take supplements. Once that muscle is actually strong,
it won't put all that stress directly on the knee!!! That's really the point here.
#25 ·
Hannah Rogers93 said:Look, if I want my quads to actually get stronger, I need to be eating meat
or taking supplements. Once those muscles are strong enough,
the pressure won't just be hitting my knee anymore—that’s the whole idea.
You're missing part of the picture; it's really both, strengthening the muscle while also nourishing the joint itself with things like omega-3 fatty acids. 🙂
That "vege fuel" stuff seems fine on paper—it's mostly soy proteins, which you definitely need if you aren't eating meat—but I'd honestly suggest talking to a sports medicine specialist before committing to it. There are other options out there:
http://www.agram89.com/?tgb=sportske_ozljede
Also, don't just eyeball your daily protein intake; you should probably get a professional opinion on exactly how much your body needs. 😉
#26 ·
mistybear4 said:I think you're missing part of the picture—it’s really about both things at once. You need to build up that muscle strength while also supporting your joints (like your knees) with those unsaturated fatty acids—you know, omega-3s... 🙂
That "vege fuel" stuff seems decent enough at first glance—since it's soy-based, which is huge if you aren't eating meat—but honestly, maybe run it by a physical therapist or a sports specialist first.. there are other options out there too:
http://www.agram89.com/?tgb=sportske_ozljede
Also, definitely check with a pro about your actual daily protein needs—don't just wing it based on a hunch.. 😉
I'm not just winging it, I drink that powder after every single workout!!
#27 ·
Hannah Rogers93 said:I don't just eyeball it; I take that powder every single time right after my workout!!
Well, that's still basically "eyeballing it"... 😉
Since you aren't getting enough protein through your regular meals—you know, things like chicken, eggs, or tofu—just relying on a shake after the gym isn't going to cut it, which is really the whole point here... 🙂
PS: How tall are you and what do you weigh? I can run the numbers for you to figure out the absolute minimum daily protein intake you actually need... 🙂
#28 ·
mistybear4 said:you're kind of missing the mark here—it’s actually both... you gotta strengthen the muscle AND nourish the joint (like the knee) with those unsaturated fatty acids (omega-3s)... 🙂
Look, you're tripping a little bit... the whole point is that it's both—strengthening the muscle while feeding the joint with omega-3s. But here's the thing: all amino acids have a peptide bond, which includes a carbonyl group—that's just oxygen bonded to an sp2 carbon... so technically, they're all "unsaturated." And for the love of god, omega-3s ARE NOT amino acids. You clearly skimmed the article... we're talking about fatty acids here, not proteins.
#29 ·
rustymoose54 said:Every single amino acid has a peptide bond involving a carbonyl group—that's oxygen double-bonded to an sp2 carbon—which makes them all technically "unsaturated." Besides, omega-3s aren't amino acids at all, so you clearly just skimmed the surface there. We're talking about fatty acids.
You’re right, I’m losing my edge because I’m trying to juggle five different projects on my monitor at once; omega-3s are unsaturated FATTY acids, something I’ve pointed out a thousand times already, but somehow I typed amino acids this time... I know the science, it’s just this constant exhaustion and the jet lag from jumping time zones that's throwing me off my game. 😁
🙏
#30 ·
mistybear4 said:Look, you're totally right... I'm losing my grip because I’m basically juggling five different jobs on this computer at once—my brain is fried. Omega-3s are unsaturated fatty acids, I've typed that out a million times already, but this time I accidentally wrote amino acids... I know my stuff, I swear! It's just this exhaustion and the whole jet lag thing from switching time zones that's throwing me completely off my game... 😁
🙏
unsaturated fatty acids.
fats are a whole different thing... 😉
#31 ·
rustymoose54 said:unsaturated fatty acids.
fats are a different category entirely 😉
Yeah, you're right, unsaturated fatty acids... 🙏
I think I'll go step outside for some air now. 😁
#32 ·
mistybear4 said:To get enough Omega-3, you need to eat fatty fish or seafood at least three times a week.
Get real. Nothing here is mandatory. If what you’re claiming had to be true, I would have been dead years ago. And not just me. 🙄
Nobody has to do anything. Everyone seems to feel the sudden urge to lecture others on what the meat, dairy, and fishing industries—whatever they call themselves these days—decide is "required." Try looking up some actual research from this century that wasn't funded by those very same corporations. See for yourself.
People survive without drinking two glasses of milk a day, eating bacon and eggs every morning, or consuming fish three times a week. In fact, many are living much healthier lives without any of it.
Maybe I'm losing it, but I've had enough.
I haven't touched fish in six years, let alone oily fish. So far, I'm doing just fine.😎
Whatever. Just my two cents.👋
#33 ·
The whole point is ensuring you actually get enough Omega-3 into your system, and at the end of the day, it’s just a matter of whether you choose to act on that or not... and look, don't worry, you'll survive without taking any supplements, but when you eventually hit old age, you'll be as senile as my grandmother was, assuming you even make it that far. 😁
#34 ·
No, the point was that you need to eat this specific food at least three times a week because it's the only source of essentials without which
I can actually read, despite my chaotic, unhealthy lifestyle. I'm thrilled to have been given a glimpse of my future—and for free, no less. Maybe try finding a job as a fortune teller if you're so gifted.
I find myself wondering again: if all these nutrients are so vital and only found in animal products, why do vegetarians and vegans on average live longer and stay healthier? How many "experts" on this thread
life isn't even possible, let alone good health.
I can actually read, despite my chaotic, unhealthy lifestyle. I'm thrilled to have been given a glimpse of my future—and for free, no less. Maybe try finding a job as a fortune teller if you're so gifted.
I find myself wondering again: if all these nutrients are so vital and only found in animal products, why do vegetarians and vegans on average live longer and stay healthier? How many "experts" on this thread
#35 ·
madwoman said:No, the point was that you absolutely have to eat a specific food at least three times a week because it’s the only thing providing those essential nutrients without which
I can barely even read, despite my chaotic, unhealthy lifestyle. I'm just thrilled to have been given a glimpse into my future—completely free of charge, too. Maybe you should try working as a fortune teller; you might actually make some money off that "special gift" of yours.
I find myself wondering again, though. If all that stuff is so vital and only found in animal products, how is it that vegetarians and vegans on average live longer and stay healthier? Honestly, how many weird phenomena are we seeing on this thread
Look, there’s nothing to argue about here. You’re just dropping in out of nowhere.
Nobody said you had to be a vegetarian or vegan; they were just saying you need to pay more attention to getting enough protein and such...
Who are you even fighting with? 😕
#36 ·
madwoman said:just go see a different doctor.......
p.s. protein is practically everywhere—it's hard to run low if you're actually eating a varied diet. just up your intake of beans, peas, corn, or oatmeal. simple enough.🙂
p.p.s. don't go getting fish poisoning. if you absolutely have to eat it, don't overdo it like some people suggest. It’s actually "healthier" than milk.🙄
Regarding point one, everything was covered—variety means eating all sorts of things. That includes meat, fish, veggies, fruit... basically everything.
BUT this part under point two? I am completely lost.
Fish poisoning.?????????????
I know there are poisonous fish out there, though obviously far fewer than, say, venomous snakes or toxic mushrooms.
Please, back that claim up with some actual facts, because I eat fish at least three times a week and I'd really rather not die from it.
#37 ·
Ha, what can I say? Step one, however futile it might be.😉
I’ve always been fascinated by skydiving, though I didn't realize I was actually doing it myself. 😵
And no, I’m not picking fights with anyone. You all just seem to live for the argument, don't you?😛 🙂
Not really—it just caught my eye how much everyone thinks they're an expert, so I figured I’d give it a shot too.😉
I’ve always been fascinated by skydiving, though I didn't realize I was actually doing it myself. 😵
And no, I’m not picking fights with anyone. You all just seem to live for the argument, don't you?😛 🙂
Not really—it just caught my eye how much everyone thinks they're an expert, so I figured I’d give it a shot too.😉
#38 ·
Hannah Rogers93 said:That’s clearly not the case... not when I'm dealing with these issues myself.
A friend of my brother had to get knee surgery because her cartilage was totally worn down—layman's terms, anyway, I don't know the medical jargon—she's an athlete, obviously. And she eats meat like it's going out of style. Then there was this girl I went to elementary school with who couldn't even participate in PE because her knees were shot and "unlubricated" or whatever. She ate meat too.
And honestly? I'm not buying that being vegetarian or vegan is inherently a "better" way to eat than having meat. Give me a break. People drop dead from eating fish and dairy just as fast as they do from a greasy cheeseburger wrecking their liver. If we started pouring Coca-Cola over everything instead of beer, you'd see real problems.. 🙄
#39 ·
Of course I care about my health.
If you actually value your health, then you really ought to be eating meat.
There isn't much of an alternative—you should probably start eating meat regardless of how much it might turn your stomach... you mentioned that you eat fish, so perhaps if you started doing that more often, you might eventually grow to prefer it.
#40 ·
alexxx said:A friend of my brother’s had to get knee surgery because her cartilage was basically worn down to nothing—I don't know the medical specifics, she’s an athlete, you know how it goes—and she eats meat like there's no tomorrow. Then there was this girl I went to elementary school with who couldn't even participate in gym class because her joints were shot and lacked lubrication or whatever, and she was eating plenty of meat too.
The thing is, when you eat meat, you're mostly getting saturated fats, which aren't exactly helping anyone, whereas those Omega-3s—those unsaturated fatty acids—come from things like fish or flaxseed oil, and that stuff is actually vital for keeping your joints lubricated and healthy, among other things...
Athletes really need to be mindful of that balance, especially since their joints are constantly taking a beating. 🙂
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