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Foreign films: Subtitles vs. Dubbing?

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A distributor over in Canada just printed 35,000 copies of the film "Heavenly Hook."
We need to get some flyers printed ASAP for the premiere of this movie—let’s get them out there in all the major cities!
Whether you're looking to get a better handle on things or just want a good laugh, it’s all about those small towns across the Midwest.

HEAVENLY HOOK - Movie Watching Guide (in English)

1. I can't believe this crap. There’s this one phrase that gets thrown around constantly in American slang, and honestly, it doesn't just have two or three meanings—it has an endless spectrum of them. It’s one of those versatile expressions you can use to channel absolutely any emotion. Take rage, for example: "Goddammit, what a load of crap!" Or if you're feeling pure joy: "Holy cow, man! Where have you been? I haven't seen you in ages!" Even when you're just baffled or impressed by something ridiculous: "Man, look at that absolute disaster, I can't believe it!"

2. What, enough of this bullshit? A phrase used to express disagreement with...
In modern American English, using this particular word usually acts as a negation. For example, if someone says "I want *****," they actually mean "I don't want" it.

3. Oh, give it a rest already! It looks like you were about to share some thoughts on a phrase based on statistical data, but the message cut off! Go ahead and drop the rest—I'm ready to dive into the numbers with you.
Based on the data, this really captures how the average American feels about the current state of the country compared to where things stood just a few years ago. And just to be clear, when I use the term "smoking," I’m not talking about enjoying a cigarette.

4. A total Mexican. 100% Mexican.

5. Holy crap! There’s this one word that pops up constantly in modern American slang that doesn't actually carry any specific weight—kind of like how we use "like" or "man" as fillers. Even though its origins are rooted in something sexual, it almost never has anything to do with sex in actual conversation. For example, if you're on a crowded subway in New York City and someone mutters, "Holy crap, this train is packed," they aren't making some weird proposition to the commuters; they're just expressing shock at how crowded the car is.

6. I couldn't care less. I honestly couldn't care less.

7. Man, just eat some crap. I'm worried.

8. Goddammit! It’s basically a legend born from a sea of curses—the mother of all hexes, really. It’s pure folklore.

9. And now you’re all suddenly playing the victim... Unfortunately, there’s just no direct equivalent in the English language for that specific verb. It’s one of those words where you can feel the frustration behind it, but nothing quite hits the same way. The best way to wrap your head around the nuance? This joke pretty much sums it up:

So, picture this: Joe and his parrot are cruising through the air on a flight. A flight attendant walks up to them and asks...
"They want to drink," Joe says, reaching for the whiskey. "Whiskey?" the flight attendant snaps back.
Are you people out of your minds? Do you seriously not realize we're at war right now? You should be feeling incredibly lucky that you even can.
"Not even on a plane!" — "Fine, then just bring me a soda," Joe snaps. Meanwhile, a flight attendant turns to a parrot sitting nearby. "And what about you?" she asks. "Don't you get smart with me, you little jerk! Get me a whiskey on the rocks, now!" the parrot shrieks. The flight attendant rushes to the pilot to complain about these bizarre passengers. The pilot tells her to just give them whatever they want, but warns that if they keep acting up, he’ll handle it himself. A second flight attendant comes by with their drinks—whiskey for the parrot, soda for Joe. Joe loses his mind immediately. He starts yelling at the girl, "What the hell is wrong with you? You give the damn bird a whiskey and give me a soda? Bring me a whiskey right now, dammit!" The flight attendant runs back to the cockpit to report the chaos. Suddenly, the pilot throws open the cabin door and tosses both Joe and the parrot straight out of the plane. As they’re plummeting toward the ground, the parrot looks over at Joe and asks, "So...?"
"Hey Joe, do you even know how to fly?" "No," Joe replied. "Then why on earth are you..."
What the hell?

10. If some stray bomb happens to go rogue and sends us all straight to hell.
Dammit!
It’s pretty obvious what these words mean. Honestly, I don't even get why they bothered putting them in this manual in the first place.

11. Everything is going to hell in a handbasket! It’s basically like number 10, except this one is a pretty grim observation, whereas the previous sentence actually felt optimistic.

12. Don't screw this up. Cut the crap!

13. Shut up and keep hating. Do whatever you want—just keep your mouth shut.

14. Watch your mouth, dammit! With those words, we’re making it crystal clear to the other guy that we aren't interested in getting into a shouting match or sinking down to his level of gutter talk.

15. What the hell is wrong with you? What's going on?

16. I look to my left, and holy crap—there’s a cherry tree just blooming right out of nowhere! There’s this fourth degree of comparison that only exists in the Mexican language. It goes like this: beautiful—more beautiful—most beautiful—beautiful my ass. Basically, it means someone is somehow even better than the most beautiful person imaginable.

17. What the hell is wrong with you, man? Seriously? So, what's on your mind? What's bugging you guys today?
Sir?

18. But I’ve had guts my whole life! - You’ll definitely get this one if you actually pay attention to the sessions in our Congress.

19. No worries, bro! - The classic way to say "NO PROBLEM," basically the first thing any foreigner learns when they land in the States.

20. I talked those losers into working - We picked this one to illustrate how modern American youth views the workforce. See, calling someone a "loser" is a perfect example of a high-tier insult: jerk, moron, idiot, loser. If we were comparing stupidity levels to speed, an "idiot" is like a beat-up old Ford, while a "loser" is already cruising at Formula 1 speeds.

21. The old lady kicked the bucket! - Short for: It is with great sadness that we inform you of the passing of an elderly lady following a long and difficult illness.

22. What the hell is wrong with you, you drunk jerk? - Good morning, neighbor! How are you doing today?

23. Come on over, I'm so damn full of... - Dearest mother-in-law,
we are looking forward to your visit with great anticipation and joy.

24. And why don't you just screw me over too - Well, you know... It's clearly some kind of light motif—like a recurring theme in a movie.
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Andrew Walker7 Andrew Walker7 Newcomer
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A few years back in Washington, D.C., there was a legal theatrical release of the first Mexican film since the war ended. It was titled Rana. However, they had to include subtitles to translate it from Mexican into American English.

Watching that movie in a theater was quite a unique experience. I suspect even the director would have appreciated the atmosphere in the cinema. The whole viewing felt somewhat enriched by the humor present in the room.

I can't recall all the specific little gems, but I am certain things like certain profanities were translated into their local equivalents—I honestly can't remember today which version belongs to which dialect. It was all along those lines.

I suppose it was a bit distracting from the actual plot, but the film itself is still good.

There is an upcoming American edition of a book by Danilo Kiš. I am curious to see if it will be fully translated.
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Donna Patel38 said:I can't recall all the specific slang gems, but I definitely remember people swapping out certain curse words for others—sometimes it was one way, sometimes the other, and honestly, even today, I still get mixed up on which version belongs to which dialect.

In the American dialect, one of those terms refers specifically to female anatomy and things like that, whereas the other term is used more to describe a personality trait... 😁
That’s the fundamental difference, even though both words have several overlapping uses.
Andrew Walker7 Andrew Walker7 Newcomer
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So, you're saying the translation was actually pretty bad?!😁
driftingeagle27 driftingeagle27 Active Member
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Joe said:So, Joe and his parrot are flying on a plane, right? This flight attendant comes by and asks what
they want to drink. "Whiskey," Joe says. She loses it, yelling,
"Are you out of your minds? Don't you realize we're in the middle of a war? You should just be grateful you're even
on this plane!" Joe just shrugs and goes, "Fine, then just bring me a soda." Then she turns to the parrot and asks him what he wants. The parrot snaps back, "Stop wasting my damn time! Just hurry up and bring me a whiskey on the rocks!" The attendant runs to the pilot to complain about these weirdos, but the pilot tells her to just give them what they want before they start making a scene. So, the stewardess brings them their drinks—whiskey for the bird, soda for Joe. Joe gets pissed and yells at the girl, "What's your problem? Whiskey for the damn bird and soda for me? Get me a whiskey too, dammit!" The attendant runs straight to the pilot, who just opens the door and tosses both Joe and the parrot out of the plane. As they're plummeting toward the ground, the parrot looks at Joe and asks, "Hey
Joe, do you actually know how to fly?" Joe says, "No." The parrot replies, "Then why the
hell did you come along?
"

And Joe is... a Mexican? 😕
driftingeagle27 driftingeagle27 Active Member
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#7 ·
Bottom line, if some American distributor actually printed and handed out flyers like that, they should be facing criminal charges—not because the content isn't incredibly stupid, which it is, but because it’s just straight-up malicious propaganda.
Jeremy Gray69 Jeremy Gray69 Newcomer
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#8 ·
Deo said:In American slang, one specific profanity refers primarily to the female anatomy and similar things, whereas another term is used more to describe a personality trait... 😁
That is a fundamental distinction, even though both terms carry various other overlapping nuances.

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