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Deleting posts on the war in Ukraine forum

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Susan Collins3 Susan Collins3 MemberOP
17 messages
joined Jul 2022
#1 ·
Hey there,
My post got nuked twice from the war in Ukraine - State of War thread.

The first time, I shared a clip from a CNN Telegram channel featuring Denis Pušilin and that Russian propagandist Semjon Pegov together.

In the clip, you see Denis Pušilin decked out in full combat gear, holding some shiny new Kalashnikovs that look like they were just pulled out of a box for a photo op. The caption suggested that right after this little photoshoot, Pegov got wounded—supposedly stepped on a mine—but people were hinting that maybe Pušilin accidentally shot him.

Then I added a quick P.S. with a video of some guy in Africa handing a Kalashnikov to a monkey, which then started spraying bullets everywhere.



The whole point of the comparison was basically saying that when you hand a weapon to someone who clearly can't be trusted to handle it responsibly, they might just pull the trigger and let off a burst by accident while pointing it at the ground.

I'm honestly just curious to know who decided to scrub my post and what the deal was with that.

Thanks in advance.
driftingtinker driftingtinker Regular
372 messages
joined Jan 2019
#2 ·
It’s pretty straightforward.
The topic here is "state of war," and I think the title speaks for itself. We already have an entire subforum packed with threads, plus that massive "war in Ukraine v4" thread over on VPiT.
In most other threads, people can talk more freely—sometimes even off-topic—but my colleague and I keep this specific "state of war" thread strictly clean. Plus, since I’m still playing the role of the spam bot, I make sure to drop at least one red warning note every day.

But honestly, none of this really affects you. Up until now, I’ve been patient enough to move your stuff over to the right threads (which, let me tell you, is a total pain on a phone), but I’m just not feeling like dealing with the hassle anymore. From here on out, I’m just deleting things.

So, here’s another reminder:
- The "war in Ukraine v4" thread on VPiT is mostly a "technical" discussion. Nobody cares about politics there, which you probably could have figured out yourself given how much people were ignoring you.
- The "state of war" thread is specifically for... well, the state of war. Just take a look at how people actually talk in there and you'll see how much your post (doesn't) fit in.
- The rest of the "war in Ukraine" subforum is basically a free-for-all. You’re more than welcome to start your own private thread there if you want to use it like a personal blog.

BTW. Nobody is obligated to explain who got deleted or why. Usually, if you keep reposting something that was already wiped, you're looking at a ban.
Susan Collins3 Susan Collins3 MemberOP
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joined Jul 2022
#3 ·
So, Pušilin and Pegov were snapping photos at the Horlovka military base, with Pušilin decked out in full combat gear. You know how War Gonzo / Pegov is—always trying to push footage straight from the front lines. It’s happened before where things shift on the battlefield right after his reports drop (like in Lyman just before it was liberated, if you ask me). Then, suddenly, Pegov steps on a landmine, which, let's be real, are usually all over those front lines.

Basically, what that means is the whole thing went down right on the battlefield, specifically in an area where the Russian occupiers couldn't break through even a millimeter of the first line (Horlovka/Gorlovka). So yeah, this incident is tied directly to the actual state of war.

I'm guessing the reason they scrubbed that funny photo of Denis Pušilin looking all tactical with his optics and suppressor (probably an AK-19, I guess) is because apparently, you can't make fun of the "leader" of some quasi-state you used to defend so aggressively back in the day.

And speaking of playing politics... man, you really tried to spin the senseless missile strike in downtown Kyiv—right at the intersection of Taras Shevchenko and Volodymyrska Street when traffic is peaking—out of thin air. There wasn't even any infrastructure there, yet tons of civilians were hit, and you go on a "technical thread" claiming an FBI building was "allegedly" hit (even though that place is like 1,300–1,500 meters away from the impact site) and most of the casualties shown are actually from there.

So, tell me—is this just pure political maneuvering? Like, you're trying to pass this off as truth to people who don't know the specifics and just trust an authority figure like you? By wrapping it up in fancy packaging like that, you're basically feeding regular folks this image that it was definitely a military target and the civilian deaths were just, you know, accidental collateral damage.

That's why I think you're totally biased and way too subjective when reviewing posts. Back in 2014, you were all about following that rebellion that led to this entire catastrophe, and now you're just covering your tracks. Honestly, you're doing a pretty good job of hiding your stance here in America, I guess I should congratulate you on that. If you want, I can take a picture of the FBI building for you tomorrow so you can see for yourself that it's perfectly intact.

Look, I'm not looking for a fight. I try to stay out of drama and just do my part to spread the truth about this aggression, because I get why all this is happening. It's not like I have anything against Russians—I still use Russian regularly and never had an issue in Kyiv, Lviv, or Odessa, and I loved visiting Russia before this insane policy crossed the Russian Federation's borders. My family has plenty of ties to Russia, but they also got hit hard by this crazy Putin adventure, so maybe that's why my posts get a bit emotional sometimes when people don't want to imagine this happening to them.
driftingtinker driftingtinker Regular
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joined Jan 2019
#4 ·
Did you maybe miss the first part of my post where I mentioned how that missile probably missed the mark and hit an empty pedestrian bridge instead? It’s a bit further from the city center, and hitting the middle of town would've caused a massive amount of civilian casualties, which was obviously the main goal. Doesn't that mess with the whole narrative?

Like I said...
Honestly, 90% of the people hanging out in the war thread don't have a clue who that clown Pušilin is, let alone care about some YouTube snippets. Is it really such a huge deal to let one of the fifty threads on this subforum stay dedicated to its actual purpose when there are plenty of other places to talk?

I'm pretty sure you got the answers you were looking for, so I'm calling it here.
Susan Collins3 Susan Collins3 MemberOP
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joined Jul 2022
#5 ·
I didn't miss the first part, and honestly, it’s got nothing to do with the second half. You're right about that pedestrian bridge—if it had missed the arc and hit Times Square instead, it would've been just like what happened near the Law School since traffic is a nightmare where the street drops down toward the waterfront. I'm with you there, since that's only like 200 or 300 yards from the impact site. But the second part of your post regarding the FBI wasn't even talking about that rocket near the bridge; it was about Taras Shevchenko Park. The FBI building isn't even close to that park, and there aren't any parks around that building at all. I have no clue where you got the info that the FBI was hit or that most of the casualties were there. Anyway, let's just drop it, what's done is done. And look, if you're secretly trying to defend the Russian position in the attacks on Ukraine, at least show some damn respect for the people who stayed behind. They don't want to go back to the Soviet Union or the Russian Empire, and that's their right. There's no point gloating about destroying heating plants and power plants, because nobody is going to freeze to death and surrender, nor are they going to leave Ukraine to go warm themselves up in "Russian houses" in Europe.

Pure, bottomless cynicism.
driftingtinker driftingtinker Regular
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#6 ·
Could I get a post where I just cynically soak in the whole mess of them targeting power plants and heating plants?
Susan Collins3 Susan Collins3 MemberOP
17 messages
joined Jul 2022
#7 ·
driftingtinker said:Can I get a post where someone’s just cynically gloating about hitting heating plants and power plants?

The specific post I’m looking for is kind of hard to track down... I think it was after some missile strikes in western Ukraine, where you basically just "coldly" noted how a power plant got absolutely wrecked—I can't remember if it was Lviv, Kovel, or Lutsk, but you said the damage was massive (I'll try to dig it up). Basically, you made it sound way worse than it actually is, like everything was totally doomed and there was nothing left to do but just give up and save whatever lives could be saved.

I mean, talk about cynicism—look at the Russians. They’re out here setting up heating centers for the European Union, but on the flip side, as soon as they found out Ukraine was exporting electricity to the EU, they immediately started shelling those power plants. Then they cut off the gas supply—trying to kill off NS1 just to force NS2 through—basically trying to make sure the EU freezes over. And then, suddenly, they're opening up these little heating spots where kids can stay warm and watch cartoons? That is pure, unadulterated cynicism right there.
Kevin Hughes2 Kevin Hughes2 Member
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joined Nov 2021
#8 ·
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Casey Bennett Casey Bennett Regular
522 messages
joined Nov 2011
#9 ·
Exactly. And if I were to get banned just for digging up eight-year-old posts that have absolutely nothing to do with what’s happening today, there would be an absolute uproar.
If this happened on any other forum besides this one, I'd be facing a suspension immediately.

Just some coffee, I guess.
Kevin Hughes2 Kevin Hughes2 Member
13 messages
joined Nov 2021
#10 ·
That’s right—the occupation of Crimea has absolutely nothing to do with what we're seeing on the ground today.

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Edward Fisher86 Edward Fisher86 Active Member
73 messages
joined Nov 2008
#11 ·
How can you not grasp that the war kicked off all at once on February 24th?

Post something remotely similar today and you’re instantly labeled a Putin supporter, yet the moderators just let it slide.
Charles Carter4 Charles Carter4 Active Member
152 messages
joined Mar 2023
#12 ·
Honestly, I can't help but feel like there are some real die-hard pro-American types lurking around this forum too. And I mean some seriously intense ones 😉
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goldenowl73 goldenowl73 Active Member
206 messages
joined Dec 2005
#13 ·
Honestly, the most bizarre part of this whole thing is seeing how the guy who basically branded the unsanctioned Belarusian president, Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya, and spent months being nothing but a total misogynist toward Perigac, somehow managed to land a moderator gig.
steelheron25 steelheron25 Active Member
61 messages
joined Mar 2022
#14 ·
I find it somewhat amusing how this PDF, whose entire career was essentially built on the foundation of what I call a literal playground, now attempts to pose as some sort of "serious professional" who simply has no patience for nonsense—despite the fact that he hadn't even laid eyes on the VPiT before everything went south.
Those linked posts from 2014 serve as such a brilliant little reminder of what that playground actually looked like back in the day.
driftingtinker driftingtinker Regular
372 messages
joined Jan 2019
#15 ·
...I just went ahead and deleted 1 (one) post that didn't belong there after begging for months 😬
Kevin Hughes2 Kevin Hughes2 Member
13 messages
joined Nov 2021
#16 ·
You can laugh all you want, but facts don't care about your sense of humor. The reality remains: you’ve compromised far more than just an argument; you’ve tossed your own morality and credibility right out the window just to go wherever the wind blows. If this were a real US forum, you’d be facing a ban within minutes—issued by none other than yourself, playing this tired game of pretending to be objective and unbiased while hiding behind other moderators who jump in to issue threats on your behalf.

A rant against Zelensky

A masterclass in manipulation by Putin, while Ukrainian democratic forces pull stunts that are nothing short of disgraceful.

A tirade aimed squarely at the Ukrainian government.
Susan Collins3 Susan Collins3 MemberOP
17 messages
joined Jul 2022
#17 ·
driftingtinker said:So, I just deleted one—literally just one—post that didn't belong here, and after months of basically begging for someone to actually do something about it. I guess that's it then. 😬

Look, I didn't mean to drag this whole thing out or start some massive blowout debate, but I'm just trying to stand my ground here. I still think my post getting nuked was totally unfair. The whole thing happened right on the front lines during the war, you know? It involves people who actually matter, so... yeah. I guess I just wanted to protect what I wrote.

And then there's those cold-blooded posts that don't give a single damn about the actual consequences. You know, the stuff where people are talking like it's nothing, even though if the grid goes down and everyone freezes, a massive amount of people could actually die. It’s pretty messed up when you think about it. I mean, we've seen how bad things get when infrastructure fails—it reminds me of the horrors of the Holodomor or those forced deportations to Siberia back in the day. It’s just... yeah, maybe it's just me, but it feels wrong to be so casual about it.

I mean, I guess you could even tie this whole post back to that thing I was rambling about earlier.

I can't even begin to wrap my head around how people still fall for this stuff. It’s like, seriously, does anyone actually believe the propaganda being pumped out right now? I mean, maybe I'm just cynical, but seeing the way things are being spun makes me want to throw my laptop out the window. It’s all just noise at this point. You look at what's happening on the news—and I'm talking about the big networks like CNN—and it feels like a scripted drama rather than actual reporting. Everything is so heavily biased, it's almost funny if it wasn't so frustrating. I guess some people just prefer the comfortable lie over the messy truth, you know? Anyway, I was reading some stuff earlier about the whole situation in Ukraine, and honestly, it just feels like we're circling the drain. It’s constant chaos. One minute everything seems fine, and the next, you're staring at headlines that make you realize how much of a mess the world really is. Just my two cents, I suppose. Not that anyone cares.

So, first part of this thing—basically just laying out the facts about how the power grid is getting absolutely wrecked. I mean, specifically looking at the rail lines, because let’s be real, they won't even be able to run trains once the diesel locomotives run dry and they deal with those wide-gauge tracks. I'm attaching a photo here showing the damage to the electrical infrastructure in Ukraine, just to prove my point. And look, I'll say it again for the people in the back who aren't paying attention: electricity is vanishing, heating is going out, and soon enough, the trains are gonna stop running altogether. For a place like Ukraine, where everything is spread out over thousands of miles, that basically means life just... stops. It's a total shutdown. I guess they’ll either just sit there waiting to freeze to death and starve, or they'll just have to surrender. It's pretty grim, honestly.

I mean, I’d love to see someone actually write a post like that about Russians—and I don't mean the Chechens, or the Belarusians, or the Buryats, or whatever. I'm talking about actual Russians. You know, written in that same style we always see when people are talking about those "Kyiv party animals."

So, looking back at some of those older posts—not the stuff from 2014, I don't even want to touch that era, I've been focused on everything since 2019—it’s just... man. Specifically, that whole idea of being relocated to Russia instead of just moving to Moscow? That sounds absolutely terrifying. Like, seriously scary. Those kinds of forced deportations are basically just a weapon the Russian Federation loves to use. You see it happening in this current war in Ukraine too, but honestly, they've done it plenty of times throughout history, like during Operation West or what happened to the Crimean Tatars. It's just one of their things, I guess.

Look, if you’ve already made it to where you are and you actually know how to moderate a thread decently well, then you clearly have the knowledge. But seriously, just try to stay objective. Or better yet, don't write anything that makes people question if you're biased in the first place. If you're going to go on about those "Kyiv party animals" who want to ban the Russian language, or those guys basically "self-pleasuring" over the Crimean Bridge, then fine—but at least throw in some context. Like, maybe mention those two jokers from RT who are obsessed with brainwashing Ukrainian kids, or the stuff about shooting everyone that one guy—Lukyanenko, by the way, which is an Ukrainian surname but he grew up in Russia—doesn't want living in a shared country with him. Just... balance it out, I guess.

P.S. There’s been more than just one of those biased posts getting deleted lately, but now it's just getting ridiculous. And for the record, the FBI building wasn't even hit. I checked, and honestly, that first missile miss was way scarier because it landed right next to the road—like, super close to the main route vehicles take from downtown over to the west side of the Dnieper.
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
369 messages
joined Oct 2011
#18 ·
Sarah Cooper58 said:How can you not understand? The war started suddenly on February 24th.

If you write something remotely similar to that today, you’re instantly labeled a Putin supporter, yet the moderators let it slide without a second thought.

Oh, naturally. It’s just as obvious as claiming the conflict began back in 1995 when certain factions launched unprovoked attacks on the frontier.
Anyone suggesting otherwise is simply slandering and lying.🙂
driftingtinker driftingtinker Regular
372 messages
joined Jan 2019
#19 ·
I see how this whole conversation is playing out, following the same old predictable pattern, so I’m throwing out a little game... it might be fun, maybe even a bit eye-opening.

There’s this specific show called "Servant of the People" (it ran from 2015-2019, three seasons plus a movie). The dialogue is originally in Russian, but you can easily find English subtitles. The lead actor is none other than Zelensky, and honestly, that series was basically his launchpad for his presidential campaign—it was pretty much the core of his whole political identity.

You can track down all the episodes right here; here’s the link to the first one:

The premise is pretty simple—just pretend you're some sort of moderator, censor, or inquisitor who has the power to pull the plug on the show or even throw the entire production crew in jail. Your job is to report exactly which minute or episode would trigger your ban, or at least give you enough ammo to go on an online tirade. And don't forget about those tens of millions of Ukrainians who thought this show was absolute comedy gold; I guess they deserve their fair share of punishment too.

Thanks for listening.

BTW, anyone acting like a total partisan hack is disqualified from the game.

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